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Old Posted Jan 22, 2026, 3:00 PM
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The Main Line has entered a new era of expensiveness.
29 homes (3700-4500sf) on 1/5 acre lots starting at $2.8M. Averages $650-$800/sf, and I'm sure they will sell-out quickly.
Rockwell builds nice product though.

Main Line estate of late Campbell Soup heiress set to become luxury housing after sale
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...pbell-soup-dorrance-hamilton-radnor.html

Rockwell Development Group has finalized its purchase of a portion of late Campbell Soup heiress Dorrance "Dodo" Hill Hamilton's Main Line estate with plans to build more than two dozen multimillion-dollar homes on the site.

The $4.96 million deal for a 3.5-acre section of the estate closed last week, according to a deed filed in Delaware County. The seller was a trust associated with the Hamilton family.

Hamilton's nearly 8-acre estate at 204 Strafford Ave. in Radnor was subdivided. Rockwell has the balance of the property under agreement and plans to close on the remaining parcels in the coming months. The existing nearly 7,000-square-foot residence and several greenhouses and outbuildings will be razed for the project.

The estate, just steps from downtown Wayne, is expected to be developed into 29 homes with unique neo-traditional designs on roughly 7,500-square-foot lots across the full property.

Plans for the community, called Strafford Walk, call for site work to begin in the summer, with construction of the homes starting by the end of the year and the first completions scheduled for 2027. The homes are expected to start at $2.8 million, according to Greg Lingo, president of Media-based Rockwell.

"As hard to believe as that is, it's a value for the Main Line — to be able to be into a new home community for under $3 million," Lingo said.
To each their own. If I were ever to move all the way out to Wayne, at minimum give me enough acreage for a pool and a small lawn.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2026, 8:02 PM
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To each their own. If I were ever to move all the way out to Wayne, at minimum give me enough acreage for a pool and a small lawn.
Rockwell builds a pretty ho-hum product. For sure nowhere as mediocre as the Ryans, NV's, and even Toll's of the world, but not nearly as nice as Bentley or Pohlig.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2026, 3:48 AM
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https://delawarebusinesstimes.com/insider-only/berger-communities-trolley-square-apartments/

Berger Communities breaks ground on Trolley Square apartments

The reported address is a typo and it is really 1021 Gilpin (as you can see in the render), which is right at the I-95 off-ramp, not 1201 Gilpin, which is two blocks west and is occupied by row homes.
Construction has started on this one. Article from Jan 20:

Construction begins on 130-unit apartment complex in Wilmington
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/mon...alley-neighborhood-delaware/88047499007/
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2026, 7:54 PM
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This is a really handsome building for Ardmore. I am excited to see the Piazza going up near (on?) the old Ihop lot. I will miss that IHOP I went to it after school a lot as a kid.

https://savvymainline.com/2026/01/22/wha...ulter-place-residents-move-in-this-week/

Also this may be a surprise for some, but the Philly metro area job growth is growing faster than NYC. I never thought I would say that, especially after 2008 NYC's economy seemed unstoppable.

Report from the EDC:
https://edc.nyc/sites/default/files/2026-01/NYCEDC-NYC-Economic-Snapshot-December-2025.pdf
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2026, 2:01 PM
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Interesting article about the rising prices in New Hope.
I haven't been to New Hope in over a decade, but I used to enjoy trips with friends, back when it was a quirky lgbt weekend getaway. What is the vibe like these days? Is it feeling more like a Greenwich type town or still retaining its quirks despite eye popping prices?


New Hope's riverfront real estate soars amid scarcity and celebrity appeal
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...cx_testVariant=cx_8&cx_artPos=3#cxrecs_s

Residential property along the Delaware River in New Hope has become more coveted, exclusive and expensive. The recent $9.5 million sale of a riverfront home is a sign that those higher prices are likely to persist, local real estate agents say.
Bucks County's ultra-luxury market has long been dominated by sprawling farm properties, but it has been the smaller lots along New Hope's Main Street that have been commanding eye-popping prices of late.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2026, 3:33 PM
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Interesting article about the rising prices in New Hope.
I haven't been to New Hope in over a decade, but I used to enjoy trips with friends, back when it was a quirky lgbt weekend getaway. What is the vibe like these days? Is it feeling more like a Greenwich type town or still retaining its quirks despite eye popping prices?


New Hope's riverfront real estate soars amid scarcity and celebrity appeal
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...cx_testVariant=cx_8&cx_artPos=3#cxrecs_s

Residential property along the Delaware River in New Hope has become more coveted, exclusive and expensive. The recent $9.5 million sale of a riverfront home is a sign that those higher prices are likely to persist, local real estate agents say.
Bucks County's ultra-luxury market has long been dominated by sprawling farm properties, but it has been the smaller lots along New Hope's Main Street that have been commanding eye-popping prices of late.
Still has its quirks but it’s undoubtably more upscale than ever. Still highly recommend a visit to anyone. It’s a great town.
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Still has its quirks but it’s undoubtably more upscale than ever. Still highly recommend a visit to anyone. It’s a great town.
Bucks County is such a conondrum to me. Lower Bucks feels more working class and hardscrabble to me than it ever has...in some ways...even more so than eastern Delaware County. But Upper Bucks has gotten insanely expensive.

I guess I get it, especially since it's in theory closer to NYC. But New Hope is still lacking in terms of amenities as far as restaurants and retail. IMO, Newtown Boro and Doylestown both offer more.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 2:47 PM
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As a followup, here's a house being built new in 2016 using load-bearing masonry.

And another.

And a third, of some size.
Sorry for getting pedantic, but I would call this "block" rather than "brick." These concrete blocks still have a non-load-bearing brick facade. What I meant, and should have been clearer about, is that I'd be shocked to see a new building where the brick (or cut stone, or whatever) facade is also what is holding up the building. It's hard to imagine us going back to that.

I agree that I'd rather live in something built of concrete than of sticks, though, and I'm thankful we seem to have at least gone back to hand-laid brick facades in many smaller builds because I hate most "brick" panels.
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Although this isn't as "official" as Census data, it's still interesting to see different, more "real time" sources of migration data nonetheless. Philly made the Top 10 MSAs in Bank of America's analysis of migration data last quarter for net in-migration, and it had the third largest increase in intake in the last quarter of 2025.

To no one's shock, it's largely driven by metro NYC, although the South is making a stronger showing:

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Philadelphia tells an interesting story. It boasts the third largest inflow for the fourth quarter of 2025, based on the major MSAs that we follow. Additionally, more than one in four new residents to Philadelphia hailed from New York City (Exhibit 6). Yet, at the same time, the broader Northeast accounts for another sizable share of newcomers, demonstrating that Philadelphia continues to function as a regional magnet for affordability-minded movers while remaining a relatively short drive from neighboring big cities.

Another compelling finding is the South’s growing gravitational pull to Philadelphia. The South accounted for nearly one-third of inbound migrants to Philadelphia in 2025, but it captures slightly over 40% of outbound flow—reflecting a national trend of households seeking warmer climates and lower costs. Washington, D.C. and Baltimore also appear as meaningful nodes in this exchange, given they are some of the northernmost Southern cities, acting as a crucial hub for migration from the Northeast to
the South.

The mix of arrivals from the West and Midwest adds further diversity to inflows, however, they remain a relatively small share of inflows or outflows according to Bank of America internal data. This reinforces the idea that a majority of people are looking for proximity to their home region and affordability when relocating.

And while Philadelphia boasts the third largest population inflow of all the major MSAs we follow, its already large population means the City of Brotherly Love only saw a slight increase of 0.3% YoY. This suggests to us that the inflows aren’t creating a seismic shift, but Philadelphia residents can continue to expect a healthy share of newcomers searching for more affordable accommodation.
Link to report here.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 5:29 PM
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Sorry for getting pedantic, but I would call this "block" rather than "brick." These concrete blocks still have a non-load-bearing brick facade. What I meant, and should have been clearer about, is that I'd be shocked to see a new building where the brick (or cut stone, or whatever) facade is also what is holding up the building. It's hard to imagine us going back to that.

I agree that I'd rather live in something built of concrete than of sticks, though, and I'm thankful we seem to have at least gone back to hand-laid brick facades in many smaller builds because I hate most "brick" panels.
To get even more pedantic, the older brick buildings that you're referring to work in much the same way! The frontmost course of bricks on the street-fronting facade of any rowhome in Philadelphia bears little to no weight other than self-weight (along with any adornment). Two or three courses of brick behind the front facade are what are doing the actual bearing of weight.

The same goes for cut stone. On this pair of twins, the serpentine stone is doing virtually no structural work. Serpentine stone, Wissahickon Schist, and other decorative stones are rarely bearing weight, because they 🞵🞵🞵🞵 at doing it!

To your point, the cinder/cement/composite blocks used in the buildings I linked are likely of superior quality to the bricks of old. The problem is, construction like that is still effectively illegal in Philadelphia. Simply legalizing it would go so far towards "faux-historical" buildings looking less "faux".
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 5:38 PM
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Although this isn't as "official" as Census data, it's still interesting to see different, more "real time" sources of migration data nonetheless. Philly made the Top 10 MSAs in Bank of America's analysis of migration data last quarter for net in-migration, and it had the third largest increase in intake in the last quarter of 2025.

To no one's shock, it's largely driven by metro NYC, although the South is making a stronger showing:



Link to report here.
This report exemplifies why the area around 30th Street Station (University City and the western edge of Center City) should continue to be built up, and why SEPTA, Amtrak, PennDOT, the city, and the Commonwealth should partner to rehabilitate North Philadelphia Station and provide incentives to develop the area surrounding it. It would also be awesome if the Keystone Service could make more regular stops at North Philadelphia and Cornwells Heights.

Some of my in-laws live on the northern end of Long Island. Looking at the schedule for the LIRR Port Jefferson Branch, I could take a direct trip from Northport to Penn Station in 65 minutes (6:29AM-7:34AM) for $18.25. Compare that to Amtrak #110, which I can (and have several times) from 30th Street Station to Penn Station in 71 minutes (6:47AM-8:08AM) for $15. Even when you acknowledge that someone living in Suffolk County may not want to live in the city, if that same Northport resident moved to Yardley or Newtown, they could make a quick 15 minute drive to Trenton and take Amtrak #190 to Penn Station in 59 minutes (6:27AM-7:26AM) for $10.


Combine the similar trip times at a lower commuting cost with the drastically lower cost of living and the appeal of living in the Philadelphia area becomes apparent. One can also easily work on the train, and the seating on Amtrak is very comfortable--even in coach. Conversely, for the Philadelphian looking to work in NYC and bring home a higher salary, this is also a very good way to accomplish that goal.
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This report exemplifies why the area around 30th Street Station (University City and the western edge of Center City) should continue to be built up, and why SEPTA, Amtrak, PennDOT, the city, and the Commonwealth should partner to rehabilitate North Philadelphia Station and provide incentives to develop the area surrounding it. It would also be awesome if the Keystone Service could make more regular stops at North Philadelphia and Cornwells Heights.

Some of my in-laws live on the northern end of Long Island. Looking at the schedule for the LIRR Port Jefferson Branch, I could take a direct trip from Northport to Penn Station in 65 minutes (6:29AM-7:34AM) for $18.25. Compare that to Amtrak #110, which I can (and have several times) from 30th Street Station to Penn Station in 71 minutes (6:47AM-8:08AM) for $15. Even when you acknowledge that someone living in Suffolk County may not want to live in the city, if that same Northport resident moved to Yardley or Newtown, they could make a quick 15 minute drive to Trenton and take Amtrak #190 to Penn Station in 59 minutes (6:27AM-7:26AM) for $10.


Combine the similar trip times at a lower commuting cost with the drastically lower cost of living and the appeal of living in the Philadelphia area becomes apparent. One can also easily work on the train, and the seating on Amtrak is very comfortable--even in coach. Conversely, for the Philadelphian looking to work in NYC and bring home a higher salary, this is also a very good way to accomplish that goal.
I posted earlier in this page the jobs data between NYC and Philly, but you are more likely to find a job in the Philly Metro than in the NY metro. I can’t think of a time in my life where this has been true. I have multiple coworkers who have told me the same thing (they lived/grew up in Metro NYC before moving to metro Philly). For many NYC is not only expensive, but increasingly difficult to find well paying jobs. This is the same for a lot of people I have met from Boston too.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 8:40 PM
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I posted earlier in this page the jobs data between NYC and Philly, but you are more likely to find a job in the Philly Metro than in the NY metro. I can’t think of a time in my life where this has been true. I have multiple coworkers who have told me the same thing (they lived/grew up in Metro NYC before moving to metro Philly). For many NYC is not only expensive, but increasingly difficult to find well paying jobs. This is the same for a lot of people I have met from Boston too.
What well paying jobs are available in the Philly area that are not available in the NYC and Boston areas? Or does the talent pool in NYC and Boston exceed available openings?

Just curious, since that is a shift in the typical dynamic (as you said).
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What well paying jobs are available in the Philly area that are not available in the NYC and Boston areas? Or does the talent pool in NYC and Boston exceed available openings?

Just curious, since that is a shift in the typical dynamic (as you said).
It is the latter. I work in Finance/Insurance and we have been growing like crazy in the Philly area. In comparison this industry has been shedding jobs in the NY metro area and we are getting a ton of high quality talent that is moving down.

This isn't to say that NYC doesn't have well paying jobs, in-fact it probably has one of the greatest density of high-paying and specialized jobs outside of SF, but rather the creation of them has lagged Philadelphia in 2025. According to the EDC (NYC Gov agency), only healthcare and education had meaningful gains in employment within the NY metro area. These aren't high-paying doctor and nursing jobs, but rather lpn's and health aides. Many of the jobs created in NYC during 2025 have been low-wage or part time work. Last year was one of NYC's slowest years for job creation since the pandemic and it looks like the city shed more businesses than it created (still to be determined).

Boston has been shedding a ton life sciences jobs for a myriad of reasons, but the latest cuts to research funding has really been painful. However, it is not the only cause of the city's employment woes.

Sources:
(NYC)
https://edc.nyc/sites/default/files/2025-12/NYCEDC-2025-State-of-NYC-Economy_12-12-2025.pdf
https://edc.nyc/sites/default/files/2026-01/NYCEDC-NYC-Economic-Snapshot-December-2025.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/nyregion/nyc-jobs.html

(Boston)
https://www.massbio.org/news/recent-news...work-as-bostons-biotech-engine-sputters/
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2025/12/31/boston-biotech-2025-layoffs.html
https://archive.is/20260124000235/https:...usiness/massachusetts-jobs-unemployment/
https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/new-england-economic-conditions/2025/october.aspx
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 1:16 AM
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This report exemplifies why the area around 30th Street Station (University City and the western edge of Center City) should continue to be built up, and why SEPTA, Amtrak, PennDOT, the city, and the Commonwealth should partner to rehabilitate North Philadelphia Station and provide incentives to develop the area surrounding it. It would also be awesome if the Keystone Service could make more regular stops at North Philadelphia and Cornwells Heights.

Some of my in-laws live on the northern end of Long Island. Looking at the schedule for the LIRR Port Jefferson Branch, I could take a direct trip from Northport to Penn Station in 65 minutes (6:29AM-7:34AM) for $18.25. Compare that to Amtrak #110, which I can (and have several times) from 30th Street Station to Penn Station in 71 minutes (6:47AM-8:08AM) for $15. Even when you acknowledge that someone living in Suffolk County may not want to live in the city, if that same Northport resident moved to Yardley or Newtown, they could make a quick 15 minute drive to Trenton and take Amtrak #190 to Penn Station in 59 minutes (6:27AM-7:26AM) for $10.


Combine the similar trip times at a lower commuting cost with the drastically lower cost of living and the appeal of living in the Philadelphia area becomes apparent. One can also easily work on the train, and the seating on Amtrak is very comfortable--even in coach. Conversely, for the Philadelphian looking to work in NYC and bring home a higher salary, this is also a very good way to accomplish that goal.
I work in the World Trade Center.

I take the Keystone 640 from Cornwells Heights to Newark Penn, then transfer to the PATH (it's across the platform).

My train leaves at 7:23AM and arrives at Newark Penn at 8:14AM. It's a 51 minute trip. The PATH to World Trade from Newark Penn is 25 minutes. That's an hour and 16 minutes.

My drive to Cornwells Heights is 15 minutes.

I do this trip once a week (T-W, or W-Th) depending on the week. I am lucky in that I'm pretty senior and I stay in a hotel for that one night so I'm only doing 1 round trip.

Even so, it's totally doable for folks a couple days a week.

And as you say, some Long Islanders and Connecticut folk do longer commutes every single day.
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It is the latter. I work in Finance/Insurance and we have been growing like crazy in the Philly area. In comparison this industry has been shedding jobs in the NY metro area and we are getting a ton of high quality talent that is moving down.

This isn't to say that NYC doesn't have well paying jobs, in-fact it probably has one of the greatest density of high-paying and specialized jobs outside of SF, but rather the creation of them has lagged Philadelphia in 2025. According to the EDC (NYC Gov agency), only healthcare and education had meaningful gains in employment within the NY metro area. These aren't high-paying doctor and nursing jobs, but rather lpn's and health aides. Many of the jobs created in NYC during 2025 have been low-wage or part time work. Last year was one of NYC's slowest years for job creation since the pandemic and it looks like the city shed more businesses than it created (still to be determined).

Boston has been shedding a ton life sciences jobs for a myriad of reasons, but the latest cuts to research funding has really been painful. However, it is not the only cause of the city's employment woes.

Sources:
(NYC)
https://edc.nyc/sites/default/files/2025-12/NYCEDC-2025-State-of-NYC-Economy_12-12-2025.pdf
https://edc.nyc/sites/default/files/2026-01/NYCEDC-NYC-Economic-Snapshot-December-2025.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/nyregion/nyc-jobs.html

(Boston)
https://www.massbio.org/news/recent-news...work-as-bostons-biotech-engine-sputters/
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2025/12/31/boston-biotech-2025-layoffs.html
https://archive.is/20260124000235/https:...usiness/massachusetts-jobs-unemployment/
https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/new-england-economic-conditions/2025/october.aspx
Interesting.

Maybe this trend will entice more employers to consider a physical presence in Philadelphia. I've noticed an uptick in law firms setting up shop, but would be great to see that spread to other industries.
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Interesting.

Maybe this trend will entice more employers to consider a physical presence in Philadelphia. I've noticed an uptick in law firms setting up shop, but would be great to see that spread to other industries.
It feels like every major law firm is opening up shop if not in Philadelphia than in Wilmington.

My parents new(ish) neighbor is a young associate at Wilson Sonsini. It's a Silicon Valley IP firm which I had no idea had a physical presence in our area. Apparently they're growing the Wilmington office quickly.

I have another friend who I went to undergrad with who is a partner in the Skadden Arps office in Wilmington. She's lived in Society Hill for years, preferring it to Wilmington. We never hear of these big firms being associated with this area but they're here and they're growing.
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Latest GDP data is available for the data nerds... The Philadelphia area is out of the top 10. The region was close with Seattle and Atlanta for a few years, but is officially #11 (for now).

I know GDP is a specific economic metric, but Philadelphia is losing ground on other Tier 2 cities (Dallas/Houston/Atlanta/Seattle/Boston/Miami).


1 New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ 2442.5

2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA 1354.7

3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN 923.1
4 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 801.3
5 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 800.6
6 Houston-Pasadena-The Woodlands, TX 758.3
7 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 749.1

8 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH 644.8
9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA 604.3
10 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 604.1
11 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 582.1
12 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL 575.0

13 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 441.8
14 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ 435.5
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 369.3
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Looks like Wilmington is getting a new 12 story building downtown.

907 Jefferson St.
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Looks like Wilmington is getting a new 12 story building downtown.

907 Jefferson St.
138'-6"

Decent!
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