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I believe the station wagon is a 1956 Mercury Monterey...
I'm pretty sure you are correct, Bristolian.



If anyone is interested you can buy this snazzy red one Here



For $ 25,900.00.

Holy Smokes!

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This one is probably lost to the ages, because I can no longer remember exactly where I took the photo!



We are looking north, veering slightly to the west. Note the US BANK building at the upper-left background (I believe it was First Interstate Bank at the time). A possible clue is the sign that says SINCE 1923. I believe the red star logo on the pumps denotes a Texaco station.

If I had to guess, this was somewhere around Central Ave and 7th/8th street, but that is VERY rough guess. However, that is the right area, at least approximately.

I believe this station was for trucks, not so much the general public. Note all of the signs about “diesel”.

Sadly, the old film cameras didn’t have GPS, and they also didn’t mark the date the photo was taken. But this picture would have been taken in the mid to late ’80s, and the gas station was gone just a few years after that…

EDIT: I have been informed via PM that I already posted this photo some years back. I honestly can’t remember that! I must be losing my mind… apologies for any repetition!

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Old Posted Jan 27, 2026, 11:17 PM
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I hate this seller's distracting watermark but his cabinet card is pretty awesome. (and rare!)

Take a look.

"RARE Early 1900s Los Angeles CA California WEST COURT STREET Antique PHOTO"..



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Here's a closer look at the large building (turns out it's the side of a house) on the left.


detail

Does anyone recognize the house?





And here's the right hand side. (I straightened it - thus the angled edges) . .and I dodged the watermark.





The eBay seller is asking $ 174.95



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I forgot the back!

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 2:38 AM
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Just for reference, here is a detail from the 1909 birdseye map. (West) Court St. goes from lower right-hand corner, at Beaudry, to upper left-hand corner, where it ends at Union. I wonder if we can figure out where the photographer for the photo e_r posted was standing . . . ?


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Could be Stage Coach, Hoss, the lettering might be stylized ropes or whips.

If memory served me correctly there was a cocktail lounge downtown called. . um . 'Corral' something that used rope-like lettering. (or maybe it was barbed wire)
Does anyone remember that place? I think it might have been near the bus terminal.
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And, of course, the Hollywood Canteen sign was actual rope lettering:

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Good call, Martin Pal. ..I had completely forgotten about the canteen's rope lettering.


Thanks for the map, odinthor.

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If memory served me correctly there was a cocktail lounge downtown called. . um . 'Corral' something that used rope-like lettering. (or maybe it was barbed wire)
Does anyone remember that place? I think it might have been near the bus terminal.
. . .after two days of searching. ..


Greyhound Bus Station, 6th and Los Angeles St.

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The Corral cocktail lounge - - - - - >



And this is why I mentioned 'barbed wire'.


detail

Doesn't that look like barbed wire to you? (in the window)

Also note the cool martini glass.


My noirish kingdom for a photograph of the interior!

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No interior... Both of these photos have been on NLA previously, but here's the bus station and The Corral.

BDBlog

Unfortunately this color photo cuts The Corral off the edge.

BDBlog

There's hardly any info about The Corral, much less photos of the interior!

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2026, 9:22 PM
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Thanks, Martin Pal, it's great to see those two photographs.


This one might be new to NLA.


emariocastillo

The Corral would be off to the right.


The bus terminal (at 6th & Los Angeles St.) was built in 1933 and in use until 1968.

I wonder whose dingy office that is on the second floor?...Can you imagine people watching from there.

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Today's Olympic and Broadway in 1885

Edwin R. Richmond (1818-1888) in front of his home at 30 West Tenth Street, northwest corner of Tenth and Fort Streets, Los Angeles, 1885.

(Quite a different scene than that same corner of Olympic and Broadway today.)



The Workman and Temple Family Homestead Museum


Richmond and his second wife, Harriet Chamberlain, moved from Denver to Los Angeles in April of 1882. A man of means, Richmond bought and sold multiple properties of considerable value in the four years he lived in the city.

In October, 1883, he purchased Lot 12 Block B in the John G. Downey Tract, where in early 1885 he built the home pictured above.



LA County Dept. of Public Works



Los Angeles Times, June 28, 1883, at Newspapers dot com.


Eight years after the OP photo was taken, the house's footprint remained unchanged, as can be seen in the Sanborn fire insurance map of 1894.



Library of Congress


In 1886, Richmond sold his corner lot and house in Los Angeles for $10,000 and moved to the recently-founded town of Covina, where he became one of its earliest settlers. Just as he had in the big city, Richmond had a keen eye for prime real estate in his new rural situation.


His first purchase there was a 22.6-acre tract that lay between the Covina townsite and the San Bernardino stage road—at that time the only thoroughfare passing east to west through the Lower Azusa Valley.



LA County Dept. of Public Works


That property in addition to several others in and around Covina secured the legacy of Richmond's descendants for decades following his death in late 1888.


More about Richmond's time in Covina and his eldest daughter's remarkable life story can be found in this article.

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EDIT: I have been informed via PM that I already posted this photo some years back. I honestly can’t remember that! I must be losing my mind… apologies for any repetition!
Scott,

I thought the photo looked familiar. Don't worry. At our age, us folks who are old enough to have been adults in the '80s all have our moments. I'm pretty sure my kids are just being polite and pretend like they haven't already heard some of the stories I tell them.
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Greyhound

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I FOUND IT!



. . .after two days of searching. ..


Greyhound Bus Station, 6th and Los Angeles St.

bodiebailey

The Corral cocktail lounge - - - - - >



And this is why I mentioned 'barbed wire'.


detail

Doesn't that look like barbed wire to you? (in the window)

Also note the cool martini glass.


My noirish kingdom for a photograph of the interior!

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Many a midnight on Sunday nights I would get on a bus in Silverlake and head downtown, get off and walk all the way down to the Greyhound from Hill St. That was 1962,3 and 4. I was in the Navy then and had to go back to San Diego for duty. Never was bothered or robbed. Never would do that these days, different life there now.
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When I was looking for photos of The Corral next to the Greyhound Station, I came across a site about the Black Dahlia that quotes a police woman who said; well I'll quote it: Policewoman Myrl O. McBride related that the girl, so filled with terror that she was crying, ran up to (McBride) in a downtown bus station and asked for protection against an "ex-marine boy friend who once threatened to kill me if he found me with another man," The girl explained that she had just encountered the marine in a bar and had been so frightened that she had run out without her purse and wraps… McBride went to the bar with the girl while she retrieved those articles. [...] McBride later saw the girl re-enter the bar.

Though not mentioned by name the bar has to be The Corral.

https://www.blackdahliabluedahlia.com/podcast/road-trip-8gy47

On this link at the bottom is a map of the area with bars and hotels emphasized.

I didn't find any Dahlia references in any other posts on NLA (1 or 2) referencing the Bus Station or The Corral bar.
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I do find the Dahlia story interesting, as a part of Los Angeles history, but I've never wallowed in the myriad of details and perspectives of it. If one wanted to at this point there is so much, in both meanings of "out there", that it seems like a fools errand. Insistent people have written and declared "they know the answers" but then there's an army of others who shout "no you don't." A lot of people think Larry Harnisch is a good authority, but there is something about that guy I do not trust and it has to do with a couple interactions I had with him some years ago on The Daily Mirror website in a couple comment sections, but that's just me.

I always wondered what he looked like, but not so much that I looked for it, however I did notice he's been having some podcasts (live) on youtube including one coming on Feb. 3rd titled "Black Dahlia -- Ask Me Anything" if anyone's interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv_zwSwTEJY

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Many a midnight on Sunday nights I would get on a bus in Silverlake and head downtown, get off and walk all the way down to the Greyhound from Hill St. That was 1962,3 and 4. I was in the Navy then and had to go back to San Diego for duty. Never was bothered or robbed. Never would do that these days, different life there now.
I was walking around downtown a couple times very late at night last year, and I wasn't afraid or anything.

You talking about being in the Navy () and downtown late at night reminded me of this Garry Winogrand (1950) photograph:

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EDIT: I have been informed via PM that I already posted this photo some years back. I honestly can’t remember that! I must be losing my mind… apologies for any repetition!
I'm surprised someone would DM you about that. The thread is so huge it's difficult to remember what has been posted and what hasn't been posted. As you know I have accidentally reposted things
time and time again.

I'm glad no one DMs me. (they can't / my box is full).

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I sometimes get surprised when someone answers a question by quoting one of my old posts that I'd completely forgotten about. I was a little late to the party, but my earliest posts are now well over a decade old!
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Caption reads "The Thomas Family....somewhere in Los Angeles"....yes, but where?

Photo is undated, but I'm pretty sure that's a fairly new '62 Caddy Coupe de Ville at the curb, so likely around that year.

Image courtesy of Flickr.
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Sadly, closing the original thread has deprived us of the ability to quote and edit any of the posts within it. I seem to remember that it was heading for 55 million views, but that info has also gone. I guess we're a classic example of being a victim of our own success!
Yes, I was hoping we'd still be able quote posts from the old version. The only alternative I can think of is to click on the number of a post from the old version and then grab the link to that and post the link here. The post won't show up but clicking the link will open it. For instance here is an e_r post from 2021:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9162808&postcount=56274

Does this make any sense or is there a better method?
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EDIT: I have been informed via PM that I already posted this photo some years back. I honestly can’t remember that! I must be losing my mind… apologies for any repetition!
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Scott,

I thought the photo looked familiar. Don’t worry. At our age, us folks who are old enough to have been adults in the ’80s all have our moments. I’m pretty sure my kids are just being polite and pretend like they haven’t already heard some of the stories I tell them.
Thanks, Bristolian - I feel quite embarrassed when I forget things!

I’ve always felt I have a very good memory, but I suppose I’m just as fallible in that regard as any other person out there…
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