Phoenix Development News (3)

[Kelton]

About time we got some sort of downtown development news!

[nickw252]

Originally Posted by Kelton

About time we got some sort of downtown development news!

I just wish we’d hear news about X Phoenix.

[TllrSkyline-01]

Originally Posted by nickw252

I just wish we’d hear news about X Phoenix.

yes...or the 2 Astria towers!!!

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by Phxguy

Some minor development news but some news is better than none:

1) Fact Finding for a 14-story Drury Plaza Hotel in the AZ Center parking lot the SWC of Fillmore and 4th St
2) Project Renewal for the SEC of 2nd St/McDowell Rd multifamily project
3) Pre-App for Willetta/2nd St multifamily project

So AZ Center block will potentially have 3 hotels, pretty awesome! Existing AC Marriot, luxury Marriott brand (Project Griffin) taking over One Arizona Center building, and now this proposal.

Beating a dead horse here but again, they really need to do something w/ that AMC Theatres already. Renovate/downsize and build another mixed-used tower on the remaining space.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

So AZ Center block will potentially have 3 hotels, pretty awesome! Existing AC Marriot, luxury Marriott brand (Project Griffin) taking over One Arizona Center building, and now this proposal.

Beating a dead horse here but again, they really need to do something w/ that AMC Theatres already. Renovate/downsize and build another mixed-used tower on the remaining space.

Yes, the AMC multiplex had an anti-urban design to begin with, and the chain's neglect of the facility has made it worse. The theaters inside are shabby, and the array of tickets windows up front are never staffed. Combine that with the absence of prominent signs, and it would be easy to assume the theater isn't even operating.

[PowerDubs]

Atari Hotels launched their new website about the Phoenix location being built-

www.atarihotels.com

https://invest.atarihotels.com/

[BA744PHX]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

So AZ Center block will potentially have 3 hotels, pretty awesome! Existing AC Marriot, luxury Marriott brand (Project Griffin) taking over One Arizona Center building, and now this proposal.

Beating a dead horse here but again, they really need to do something w/ that AMC Theatres already. Renovate/downsize and build another mixed-used tower on the remaining space.

Surprised about a Drury Hotel, they are not exactly the best hotels, I guess more budgeted options are needed in the area.

[PowerDubs]

Intersection Developer posted about an upcoming interview that includes Phoenix Roosevelt Row & Atari Hotel their Linked-in page

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/intersect...k-with-activity-7405000327990833152-rUmW

[azsunsurfer]

I noticed there’s a sizable apartment development going up off 18th st south of van buren. Does anyone have the renderings?

[PyroD]

Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

I noticed there’s a sizable apartment development going up off 18th st south of van buren. Does anyone have the renderings?

It’s a redevelopment of old public housing, similar to what they’re doing along 20th street a couple of blocks north.

https://border-now.com/new-affordable-apartment-complex-begins-construction-in-phoenix/

Even though it’s affordable housing, from what I understand the units are larger, nicer and much more dense.

[azsunsurfer]

Originally Posted by PyroD

It’s a redevelopment of old public housing, similar to what they’re doing along 20th street a couple of blocks north.

https://border-now.com/new-affordable-apartment-complex-begins-construction-in-phoenix/

Even though it’s affordable housing, from what I understand the units are larger, nicer and much more dense.

How many more projects are planned for that area as part of the bond? I wonder if the city has a plan map? I know there’s a few more lots left. I hope they’ll be able to bring more commercial development like a grocery store.

[LivinAWestLife]

Hi guys. I edited the Wikipedia article for Phoenix's tallest buildings this week: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Phoenix

It was actually in a decent shape already, with no new buildings missing. I added coordinates, a map, reworked the lead, and added a line graph to show the growth of the skyline. I was surprised at how many new residential towers there have been since 2020!

Anyway, this is part of my effort to improve and unify Wikipedia's coverage of tall buildings, and have it be a replacement/supplement to the CTBUH and SSP databases. Here's my thread about it on city discussions: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262532

If there's anything wrong or missing, please let me know! I'll post future updates to the page on this thread. If anyone wants to write up a history section, please do so! It would make the page perfect.

[LivinAWestLife]

Also, there's a new discord server for skyscrapers, with channels for discussion, projects and photos. Please join if you can! https://discord.gg/nkP5tJNFFT

The line chart shows just how many new 200 ft building were built in the past 5 years!


On the downtown map, there's lots of blue and purple for new buildings since 2010.


The Midtown/Central Avenue Corridor has a more dated skyline, however.

[KEVINphx]

Originally Posted by exit2lef

Yes, the AMC multiplex had an anti-urban design to begin with, and the chain's neglect of the facility has made it worse. The theaters inside are shabby, and the array of tickets windows up front are never staffed. Combine that with the absence of prominent signs, and it would be easy to assume the theater isn't even operating.

It should be TORN DOWN completely and the entire area (I'd argue even the rinky-dink 2 story retail section as well) and rebuild in true urban form any retail and theater necessary in addition to some large vertical elements above.

I assume this will eventually be the end result unless they dump a bunch of money into a low density renovation.

[combusean]

100% agree.

I don't know why the last owner thought their tacky renovations were the solution to a badly planned complex to begin with.

[ChaseM]

The writing is on the wall for the Arizona Center. Beyond the typical struggles of downtown retail, the place is held back by a fundamentally bad layout and weak street connectivity that make it feel cut off rather than woven into the city around it. Entrances are easy to miss, internal corridors are confusing, and there’s no natural reason for pedestrians to pass through instead of around it.

Even with new owners, that core design flaw doesn’t go away, and it puts the Arizona Center on the same trajectory as The Mercado or even Horton Plaza in San Diego, all projects that never quite integrated with their surroundings. When even the former Westfield San Francisco is barely hanging on, it’s hard to believe a disconnected, inward facing complex like this can avoid a similar fate without a complete demo-rebuild of how it meets the street.

[ChaseM]

Originally Posted by LivinAWestLife

Also, there's a new discord server for skyscrapers, with channels for discussion, projects and photos. Please join if you can! https://discord.gg/nkP5tJNFFT

The line chart shows just how many new 200 ft building were built in the past 5 years!


On the downtown map, there's lots of blue and purple for new buildings since 2010.


The Midtown/Central Avenue Corridor has a more dated skyline, however.

I think you flipped the Maeve and US Bank Center in the list below the Downtown Map, I know it was supposed to be taller originally but it’s height got reduced down to 370’ during COVID when they removed the hotel portion of it. I know CBTU hasn’t updated their page yet. Other than that overall solid and impressive work… bravo!

https://mbjeng.com/practice/central-station-mixed-use-development/

[Prestige Worldwide]

Originally Posted by LivinAWestLife

Hi guys. I edited the Wikipedia article for Phoenix's tallest buildings this week: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Phoenix

It was actually in a decent shape already, with no new buildings missing. I added coordinates, a map, reworked the lead, and added a line graph to show the growth of the skyline. I was surprised at how many new residential towers there have been since 2020!

Anyway, this is part of my effort to improve and unify Wikipedia's coverage of tall buildings, and have it be a replacement/supplement to the CTBUH and SSP databases. Here's my thread about it on city discussions: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262532

If there's anything wrong or missing, please let me know! I'll post future updates to the page on this thread. If anyone wants to write up a history section, please do so! It would make the page perfect.

Great work. The Maeve is 373'. Wish it was taller, but it did its part.

[PyroD]

Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

How many more projects are planned for that area as part of the bond? I wonder if the city has a plan map? I know there’s a few more lots left. I hope they’ll be able to bring more commercial development like a grocery store.

I found the link for this. There’s 4-5 projects included around Eastlake. Also I was mistaken, they’re being updated to mixed income units. It’s a nice addition to hopefully some additional private development in this area.

Edit: whoops here’s the link I was referencing https://www.phoenix.gov/administration/departments/housing/choice-neighborhoods-initiative.html

[combusean]

Gorman & Co, the 18th st developeor, is basically helping the city get out of being a direct public housing landlord which is a very good thing overall. Warehousing the poor in that neighborhood is why it looks like it does, the extra density and higher area incomes from mixed income developments is the rising tide that lifts all boats.