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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 1:34 PM
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It was the episode about the Beverly Park amusement park.
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Fantastic post with the vintage aerial photograph of Rowe's Garage, Noir Noir. It made my day! ...

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This slide of the 'Santa Monica Pier' caught my eye because it was taken in 1982, the year I moved Los Angeles fresh out of college.

Seller's description:..."SANTA MONICA PIER BOARDWALK CALIFORNIA SHOPS RESTAURANTS OOAK 1982 35mm Slide"


eBay

i've been trying to figure out where these particular building were (or are!) because I don't recall seeing them before.

I am especially curious about the little gray neo-classical building.

This one.


It looks really old to me.



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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 4:38 PM
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If you thought I was finished for the day you would wrong - because . . .

I have a mystery location, folks!

This one.

Currently on eBay

The seller seems to believe that it was taken from an airplne taking off (or landing) at the BURBANK AIRPORT in 1968.

Hmmm, I initially thought 'Valley Garden' was a plant nursery but if you look closer I believe you're in for a surprise.



Sally forth, noirishers!
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This slide of the 'Santa Monica Pier' caught my eye because it was taken in 1982, the year I moved Los Angeles fresh out of college.

Seller's description:..."SANTA MONICA PIER BOARDWALK CALIFORNIA SHOPS RESTAURANTS OOAK 1982 35mm Slide"


eBay

I've been trying to figure out where these particular building were (or are!) because I don't recall seeing them before.

I am especially curious about the little gray neo-classical building.
They're still there facing the ocean on Ocean Front Walk, next to ramp that leads to the pier.


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If you thought I was finished for the day you would wrong - because . . .

I have a mystery location, folks!

This one.

Currently on eBay

The seller seems to believe that it was taken from an airplne taking off (or landing) at the BURBANK AIRPORT in 1968.

Hmmm, I initially thought 'Valley Garden' was a plant nursery but if you look closer I believe you're in for a surprise.

Sally forth, noirishers!
Valley Garden Arena at 7111 Vineland Avenue opened in 1949 as a 2,000-seat boxing and wrestling venue. In 1964, it was expanded to 3,500 seats and also hosted boat shows and roller derby matches.

The seller is correct about the location. On the 1971 aerial below I've labeled (1) is the Valley Garden Arena, (2) is Ready Fresh Dairies and (3) is the western end of the runway at Burbank Airport.


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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:39 PM
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It looks like many of those old buildings are still standing, HossC -



If (1) is indeed the same building, it's a shoe store now... I've bought shoes there several times before.

I'm a boxing fan, so I wish that Valley Garden was still there! Not much in the way of boxing venues in the city anymore...
     
     
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Rowe Motor Service was located at the same address as the family's 1930 census residence.



loc.gov - Covina Telephone Directory 1935


In the mid-1930s Hervey Rowe's garage was right on the frontier of where "the future" met "fruit tree".



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Interesting. I lived the first 5 years of my life at 539 E. Foothill in Glendora, which would be built on the site of that first orange grove to the east 16 years after that aerial photo was taken. I remember walking often with my Nana on that sidewalk on the north side of Foothill on the way to and from the nearby park. I don't recall the garage specifically but that's not surprising given my tender age. Nice to see those old globe-topped street lights again, which were still there in my day. It also calls to mind what was probably the first 4-syllable word I ever learned: MINNEHAHA, which was embossed on the curb and sidewalk at the intersection of Foothill and Minnesota (Foothill's original street name was Minnehaha). I would point to the word and repeat the -haha like I was laughing, which made my grandmother chuckle in response every time. Anyway, just rambling. I love these little surprise trips down Memory Lane.
     
     
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I checked out the houses on S Longwood Avenue, and the four directly above the Post-War House all appear to be survivors with build dates in the mid-1920s.
     
     
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Captioned "1920 Wilshire Blvd., Archeological Dig".....I assume 1920 is the year and not the address on Wilshire....is that a "5115" on the 2nd story of the building far right?...(photo via Flickr)
     
     
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Thanks so much for the excellent follow-ups to the HERVEY ASA ROWE's GARAGE photographs, the mystery BURBANK photo. I truly appreciate it. (and Hoss, thanks for locating the Santa Monica pier bldgs.)


Here's a mystery location for tonight.

"Antique California 1929 Classic Auto Alhambra Street Scene Los Angeles Photo"


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Good luck!

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2025, 4:55 AM
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I don't think there are enough clues to figure out this next mystery location.


"Antique California 1929 Oil wells Whittier derricks Original Photo."



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Obviously the biggest clue is the railroad tracks....(of course the railroad tracks are probably long gone)


And here's how we know the location is somewhere in Whittier.




See how that works.



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1940s LA Rail Noir: Night Train Drive Through Burbank & Industry

A movie posted by TYMO on YouTube that I came across. Its nicely Noir: https://youtu.be/tdSkeruje8M?si=AVqHOyMkTRJsW3TK
     
     
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A movie posted by TYMO on YouTube that I came across. Its nicely Noir: https://youtu.be/tdSkeruje8M?si=AVqHOyMkTRJsW3TK
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We've seen (and discussed) the video quite some time ago on NLA. I remember we located several of the businesses -along San Fernando Road- that appear in the video.

That said, THANKS for the heads up, David Labaree. It was great fun watching it all over again. . . and I'm sure there are many noirishers who haven't seen it before.




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I happened upon this interesting sepia cabinet card(?) on eBay last night.

Seller's description: "c1900 rural school photograph - appears to be Los Angeles California Ye Art Shop"



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It does have the feel of early Los Angeles but I'm not (100%) convinced.

Why?

Yes, there was a 'Ye Art Shop' in Los Angeles but it was located on Broadway.


LAPL 1905 city directory.

Of course Clifton Street could have been an earlier (or later) location.

NOW, if one of you fine SLEUTHS could find ducumentation that connected Ye Art Shop to Clifton St., we'd be good to go!



I decided to go ahead & add this from the seller:

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FYI. "Ye Art Shop" should be pronounced "The Art Shop". The letter "Y" was used by early printers as a substitute for the Old English letter thorn which had a "th" sound.
     
     
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1906 Los Angeles Street and Avenue Guide


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But the addresses on this Clifton are only 400s and 500s, not the 2860 we're seeking. I've run across some hints of a Clifton somewhere west of Westlake Park, which works for 2860; but I haven't actually found the street itself yet.

UPDATE

It appears that the vendor is thinking of tiny Cliff St., not Clifton:


odinthor collection, detail, Bekins map of 1904

Just for your curiosity, the illegible nearby street beginning with Ko is, according to the map's index, Kofoed St.. All of these little streets in this area seem to have disappeared.

And we might as well have a look at the area courtesy of the 1909 bird's eye map:


detail, 1909 bird's eye map, Library of Congress

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Thanks, odinthor.

I appreciate your research as always.
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FYI. "Ye Art Shop" should be pronounced "The Art Shop". The letter "Y" was used by early printers as a substitute for the Old English letter thorn which had a "th" sound.
HossC, I initially thought there was an 'old' in there too & had to go back & delete them. (the olds)



So in other words 'Ye Olde Art Shoppe isn't pronounced, "Yee Old Art Shoppie?"
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