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Old Posted Nov 26, 2025, 4:53 PM
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Missed this article from March that talked about some properties along Cambie that were affected by the view cone changes



https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/cambie-street-public-view.aspx

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Developer cries foul over city changes to ‘view cones’ rules in Vancouver

A Vancouver developer says he and another landowner on Cambie Street got the short end of the stick when the city moved a ‘view cone’ and redirected it through their properties.

He alleges the changes were made to open up development opportunities on city-owned sites and constitute a conflict of interest.

“Changing the view cone was forced on planning by the mayor and council behind closed doors in order to benefit City of Vancouver properties at the expense of private landowners,” said developer Greg Coombs, owner of two properties at 2323 and 2325 Cambie St., just south of the Cambie Street Bridge and the Olympic Village station, and two blocks north of the Canada Line SkyTrain station at Broadway.

Vancouver’s “view cone” policy is a long-established way of protecting its famous views by limiting the height and location of new buildings. When the city amended the view cone policy last year, they removed some protected views and made changes to others. Several developers benefitted from the changes and are now proposing taller buildings around the city. But Mr. Coombs has been thwarted by the changes.

“The change has prevented any development above what is on 2300 block Cambie from proceeding,” he said.

The city moved the view cone that points toward the Lions (also called Twin Sisters) mountains so that it begins at the Broadway and Cambie SkyTrain location and narrows in scope. As a result, the protected view cuts through the properties in the 2300 block of Cambie Street – greatly impacting any future redevelopment in that block.

Mr. Coombs hired Andrew Cook of Formwerks Architectural to assess how the new view cone would impact 2301 to 2395 Cambie St. Mr. Cook confirmed the new view cone cuts through the middle of the site.

Mr. Coombs purchased and renovated the pair of two-storey buildings on 40-foot-wide side-by-side properties in 2009. He has developed other small-scale retail buildings, such as the building at 3835 Main St. that is occupied by Portland Craft. He and another landowner in the 2300-block, his neighbour CRS Group, had plans to potentially redevelop their properties for a mixed-use tower. CRS owns the property that is occupied by a government liquor store at 8th Avenue and Cambie. Mr. Coombs had hoped for a tower with retail, office, hotel and residential, without impacting the view.

It rankles him that the public wasn’t consulted about changes to the policy.

“I think it was a concerted effort, and what the planners have told us in [our meeting] is that they were instructed by the mayor and council that they wanted no public input, that this was going to get rammed through. They say it clearly,” said Mr. Coombs.

Standing across the street from his property last week, Mr. Coombs pointed out that the view cone that slices directly through the future building he’d envisioned doesn’t even capture the entire view of the iconic east and west Lions. He and CRS propose a simple revision to the new view cone that would allow a straight trajectory view of the Lions and impact the least number of properties. If the city refuses to make a change, he said he’s considering legal action.

The province mandated that municipalities must pass bylaws to allow residential developments at least 20 storeys high within 200 metres of SkyTrain stations. The 2300 block Cambie falls within 200 metres of two SkyTrain stations.

After the view cone changes were announced, the city launched its plan this year to build its own rental buildings, to be run by the Vancouver Housing Development Office. In early February, Mayor Ken Sim said that they were “putting our real estate assets to work and thinking outside the box on housing solutions.”

There is a pilot project under way that identified five development sites to start, with the goal to build market-rate rental housing that will help fund non-market housing, amenities and infrastructure.

Mr. Coombs said the city is in a conflict because it is effectively a developer that has the authority to create regulations for its own benefit, and he believes he’s on the receiving end of that conflict.

“I think the city has an obligation to implement the bylaws and not bias the process by not becoming developers and competing with the private sector. And I definitely don’t think they should increase the value of their own land behind closed doors at the expense of private landowners, with crazy policies.”

He met with city staff a few weeks ago and told them that the move was “pretty harsh” because it directly impacts his site. City staff told him that the Cambie Street views were risky because people love those particular views, but staff had been advised by council to make the changes without public engagement.

When asked if the city had revised view cones with future rental developments on city-owned lands in mind, Kevin Spaans, senior development planner and project lead, responded in an e-mail:

“To determine which view cones would be adjusted, we considered known growth areas and alignment with provincial TOA legislation, but did not factor in individual development projects.”

He said the policy was modernized to support new housing, job space and economic growth, and was part of a bigger plan to “overhaul, modernize and simplify the city’s urban design and development guideline framework.”

Commercial broker Mark Goodman said the Cambie 2300 block is “a no-brainer for densification.”

“It is within blocks of two-existing Canada Line stations, walking distance to the hospital and currently houses underbuilt commercial buildings meaning there are no tenant displacement concerns,” he said

“Having a view cone bisecting a site in this fashion makes for very inefficient oddly shaped floorplates and high construction costs. Low efficiency and higher costs often make redevelopment unviable, even if an architect could draw something up in theory,” he said.

“If efficiency and floorplate layouts are also impacted, there may be a further reduction in value.”

Mr. Coombs’s company is a family-run Vancouver firm that’s been in operation since 1995.

If he were to somehow make the Cambie Street properties viable, he would have to partner with a big developer, but he would want to stay on as property manager.

“The big developers come in when we amalgamate the sites, all the little guys put them together. There are single digit returns on investment these days. That’s why nothing is happening. So, when the city says they are doing everything to increase affordability, that’s a lie. What they should be doing is focusing on economy, making it as strong as possible so people have jobs so they can buy a house.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-est...ver-city-changes-to-view-cones-rules-in/
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 12:58 AM
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Is that the sound of forumers heads exploding that I hear? So many threads this could go in but I'll drop it here.


Who’s going to move to Vancouver now?

Kerry Gold
Special to The Globe and Mail
Published December 5, 2025

Software engineer Afian Anwar was riding his bike across Vancouver’s Burrard Street Bridge about six months ago and saw the third high-rise under way for Senakw, an 11-tower housing project in Kitsilano.

His consulting company, Afi Labs, does 3-D mapping for Google Maps, so he decided to map out Senakw, to determine if it would block views of Vancouver’s famous mountains. Mr. Anwar had been using the technology during his research when buying a house to determine if his and his wife’s views would ever be blocked by development, if they purchased in Kitsilano Point, for example. He created a photorealistic 3-D map of Senakw to determine sightlines from anywhere in the city.

After all, he said, the primary reason for being in Vancouver is the beautiful setting of the city and its proximity to the mountains.

“That’s what people come to see,” said Mr. Anwar, who relocated to Vancouver from Singapore in 2017, drawn by a job. He stayed for the lifestyle, including skiing and biking. “These photos, of the sea, and the mountains, the snow-capped peaks – if you lose that, you’re just another mid-tier American city, to be honest.”...

....“I would love to have a family here one day. It’s a great environment for the kids. But it is very expensive, very unaffordable. Coming from Singapore, or people who come from Hong Kong or China, where it’s even more expensive to own a home, I think a lot of international people feel that prices are reasonable for what you get. But if you lived here in Vancouver, if you grew up here, you have seen this city change beyond belief, I feel.”..

... Economist David Williams co-authored a report last summer that showed B.C. is experiencing a record exodus out of the province, with many residents moving to Ontario and Alberta. There has been an interprovincial outflow of 70,000 people in the last year – the largest on record. Half of the migrants went to Alberta, attracted by lower taxes, high-paying jobs and more affordable housing. They are highly educated and economically motivated, according to the report, written by Mr. Williams and Jairo Yunis for the B.C. Business Council, based on Statistics Canada data....(bold mine)


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-est...e-whos-going-to-moving-to-vancouver-now/
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 1:12 AM
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...After all, he said, the primary reason for being in Vancouver is the beautiful setting of the city and its proximity to the mountains.

“That’s what people come to see,” said Mr. Anwar, who relocated to Vancouver from Singapore in 2017, drawn by a job. He stayed for the lifestyle, including skiing and biking. “These photos, of the sea, and the mountains, the snow-capped peaks – if you lose that, you’re just another mid-tier American city, to be honest.”...
The next paragraph in the story - touching on affordability - is far more relevant to the discussion about Vancouver's future, but that's not what was highlighted. Does anyone really believe that people will turn away from this city in droves if the natural aspects (sea, mountains, nature) are still there, just harder to see for a select few?
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 1:28 AM
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The next paragraph in the story - touching on affordability - is far more relevant to the discussion about Vancouver's future, but that's not what was highlighted. Does anyone really believe that people will turn away from this city in droves if the natural aspects (sea, mountains, nature) are still there, just harder to see for a select few?
Yes, that's why I said the article could fit in many threads. He's not wrong though when he said Vancouver without the views is just another mid-tier city in the Americas.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 1:37 AM
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" research when buying a house to determine if his and his wife’s views would ever be blocked by development, if they purchased in Kitsilano Point, for example. He created a photorealistic 3-D map of Senakw to determine sightlines from anywhere in the city."

Dudes view will get blocked by a neighbour in Kits Point building a 3-4 storey building anyway and he's upset about towers downtown.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 1:39 AM
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Yes, that's why I said the article could fit in many threads. He's not wrong though when he said Vancouver without the views is just another mid-tier city in the Americas.
You'd have to completely eliminate the ocean and mountains for that to happen.

People don't visit and live here because they see the top of a mountain peak from City Hall. That's why the Coal Harbour seawall is so packed.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2025, 1:40 AM
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There's still plenty of views even without the important cones (and definitely without the unimportant ones).

At any rate, the main takeaway is that the woman who writes one anti-density hit piece after another has finally learned what viewcones are.
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