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Old Posted Oct 29, 2025, 12:27 PM
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It's crazy how other cities and countries have very simple solutions to long standing problems, yet no one follows those examples.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2025, 2:56 PM
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395 Somerset street west

This building is between Bank and Kent.

For the longest while now, the balconies in this building have support poles in them.. any ideas what’s up?
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2025, 4:23 PM
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I think the problem is less the pavers, and more the lack of any standardisation.
The problem is frost heave.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2025, 6:39 PM
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Frost is definitely a thing, but it's a not a distinguishing factor since it impacts all paving, as evidenced by every asphalt and concrete surface. In my estimation, the strength of brick paving is that it has the ability to be fully repaired after damage, whether from the frost, wear and tear, or from being torn up to fix something underneath. It's resilient - you can take them out, replace them, and put them back looking like new.

Once asphalt or concrete start to fail, you start the patchwork. And then you patch the patches. And you keep patching until the patches are so lumpy and unsightly that you finally have the license to fully repave/pour after 10-20 years. And then that will last a few months until you have to start patching again. Or not even - it seems like only days after every paving job, Bell or Enbridge comes in to break it and make some minor adjustment, and you already have a patch before the lane paint is even dry...

But one way or another, 19 of the 20 years of a street's lifecycle will be spent in some level of worsening decay, because there's no way to make it "like new" other than to tear up the whole thing. But bricks can be put back or replaced in minutes, looking perfectly new. It's great in the spring, but where I think their strength really lies is in the Bells and Enbridges and all the other reasons the paving needs to be cut open to repair underground infrastructure.

But... of course this is all theoretical if the City doesn't actually repair the bricks. And that's our eternal issue, it seems - the City seems slow to fully understand that there is no workaround for the truth that if you don't maintain something, it won't last. A capital budget means nothing without a maintenance budget, whether it's bricks, asphalt, or unobtanium paving.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2025, 6:56 PM
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Frost is definitely a thing, but it's a not a distinguishing factor since it impacts all paving, as evidenced by every asphalt and concrete surface.
It impacts pavers immediately, though. Every paver-paved municipal or NCC surface starts to heave after one winter, and is a slipping and tripping hazard by the second.

Pavers —. We need to stop trying to make pavers happen.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2025, 7:18 PM
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Do we have an future Ottawa skyline thread somewhere?
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2025, 7:23 PM
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Do we have an future Ottawa skyline thread somewhere?
Yes, right here
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245278

Last edited by rocketphish; Oct 30, 2025 at 9:59 PM. Reason: Corrected the URL. No proselytizing!
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2025, 7:02 AM
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Frost heave.. come on man. I've done a pile of interlock. Residential granted but even then. The vast majority of stone stays in place man. FFS. Goto Portugal or some place where the entire sidewalks in old town are mini pavers. They are always areas getting adjusted. It just takes some time, effort and budget.

You know what my biggest grip in the world is? these "BONDED" companies that do asphalt backfill for sewer/water replacements for existing or new houses and a brand new road has a massive divot all of a sudden because they wanted to pack the fill 3 times instead of 7.

Don't make excuses for sub standard work.

I know pavers in our climate are less than ideal but when 95% of them are good after 10 years we can't make right with the rest? I don't see it.

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By 95% im talking about Wellington. The retaining wall I installed at my grandmothers house in the mid 90s as a teenager serving a grounding punishment looks the exact same. I dug down like — and packed that base until I was huffing.
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Frost heave.. come on man. I've done a pile of interlock. Residential granted but even then. The vast majority of stone stays in place man. FFS. Goto Portugal or some place where the entire sidewalks in old town are mini pavers. They are always areas getting adjusted. It just takes some time, effort and budget.

You know what my biggest grip in the world is? these "BONDED" companies that do asphalt backfill for sewer/water replacements for existing or new houses and a brand new road has a massive divot all of a sudden because they wanted to pack the fill 3 times instead of 7.

Don't make excuses for sub standard work.

I know pavers in our climate are less than ideal but when 95% of them are good after 10 years we can't make right with the rest? I don't see it.

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By 95% im talking about Wellington. The retaining wall I installed at my grandmothers house in the mid 90s as a teenager serving a grounding punishment looks the exact same. I dug down like — and packed that base until I was huffing.
I don't understand the paver hate either, and agree about the crappy asphalt patches. Pavers can certainly be done badly, but some places like Lansdowne are over 10 years of heavy use and still look pretty good.
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I don't understand the paver hate either, and agree about the crappy asphalt patches. Pavers can certainly be done badly, but some places like Lansdowne are over 10 years of heavy use and still look pretty good.
Agreed however, most of the Lansdowne pavers are installed over a structural slab with a heated garage underneath.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2025, 6:57 PM
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Does SSP kick-out any of you constantly? I have to log back in at almost every thread I check, and any time I try to post a comment.
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Does SSP kick-out any of you constantly? I have to log back in at almost every thread I check, and any time I try to post a comment.
I dont have that issue
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Does SSP kick-out any of you constantly? I have to log back in at almost every thread I check, and any time I try to post a comment.
Never happened to me. Actually a have more issues over here. Doesn't allow me to create a post because of the length of the message but it's more than enough long
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Yes it happens alot if your browser uses cookie blocking addons. The ad's that display on SSP likely are tied to this.

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Old Posted Nov 6, 2025, 11:27 AM
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Imgur

I check this forum daily from the UK as I'm from Ottawa and have always followed the construction there. Anyone have any solutions for the Imgur issue? I can't really use this forum anymore because all the Imgur pictures are unavailable to me now due to UK regulation issues. I don't seem to have this problem on Skyrise Cities forum so just curious why it would only be an issue here. Apologies if I am being naive and appreciate this is likely mostly an issue for me. Was just curious if there is a simple solution from anyone in charge of the forum? Otherwise I will have to just stick to Skyrise Cities or pay for a VPN.

Any thoughts/help appreciated
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2025, 2:33 PM
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I check this forum daily from the UK as I'm from Ottawa and have always followed the construction there. Anyone have any solutions for the Imgur issue? I can't really use this forum anymore because all the Imgur pictures are unavailable to me now due to UK regulation issues. I don't seem to have this problem on Skyrise Cities forum so just curious why it would only be an issue here. Apologies if I am being naive and appreciate this is likely mostly an issue for me. Was just curious if there is a simple solution from anyone in charge of the forum? Otherwise I will have to just stick to Skyrise Cities or pay for a VPN.

Any thoughts/help appreciated
Thanks for enlightening us. I, for one, had not heard about this development yet. Here are some details for others:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzxv5gy3qo

https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/41592665292443-Imgur-access-in-the-United-Kingdom

As for your problem, it sounds like you're SOL. SSP, and many other forums, require users to host their imagery on external services, and Imgur is one of the most popular of those. Sorry. I think that the two options you mentioned are probably your best bets.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2025, 3:04 PM
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VPN is fairly cheap.

I've been using PIA for a couple years now and its been very loyal. I know some Youtubers like Perun offer discount codes. You might even just be able to Google search something like "PIA discount codes" and find something that is recent and working. I think I paid $70 CAD for the last year. Cheaper if you buy 2 year. That was without any discount. Worth it for the uh.. sailing of various seas and ARRR MATEY.
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VPN is fairly cheap.

I've been using PIA for a couple years now and its been very loyal. I know some Youtubers like Perun offer discount codes. You might even just be able to Google search something like "PIA discount codes" and find something that is recent and working. I think I paid $70 CAD for the last year. Cheaper if you buy 2 year. That was without any discount. Worth it for the uh.. sailing of various seas and ARRR MATEY.
or even free:

https://protonvpn.com/free-vpn

https://windscribe.com/
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2025, 4:37 PM
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I check this forum daily from the UK as I'm from Ottawa and have always followed the construction there. Anyone have any solutions for the Imgur issue? I can't really use this forum anymore because all the Imgur pictures are unavailable to me now due to UK regulation issues. I don't seem to have this problem on Skyrise Cities forum so just curious why it would only be an issue here. Apologies if I am being naive and appreciate this is likely mostly an issue for me. Was just curious if there is a simple solution from anyone in charge of the forum? Otherwise I will have to just stick to Skyrise Cities or pay for a VPN.

Any thoughts/help appreciated
I mostly use https://postimages.org/ instead of imgur, but I assume they would also have been hit by the new regulations. More often than not, I post on Skyrise first, and then use the image on Skyrise to post on SSP.
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All great suggestions thanks everyone! Hopefully the UK gov and Imgur can sort something out soon haha
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