YVR & Sea Island Developments Discussion II

[ninjakafi_81]

Some changes for British Airways for next summer

London Heathrow – Vancouver
* BA085/084
01JUL26 – 31AUG26 A350-1000 replaces 777-200ER

* BA087/086
30MAR26 – 30JUN26 3 of 4 weekly 787-8 replaces 777-200ER
01JUL26 – 31AUG26 1 daily 777-200ER (unchanged)
01SEP26 – 05OCT25 787-8 replaces 777-200ER, 4 weekly
eff 06OCT26 3 of 4 weekly 787-8 replaces 777-200ER

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/251020-bans26inc

[Johnny Aussie]

^ for the summer peak months:

1) better variety
2) a boost of approx 60 seats per flight
3) 24 more premium seats per flight

Shoulder months - again just shows how seasonal YVR-Europe is - and I’m pretty sure YVR has never seen the BA 788 before?

[Tysonbrown]

Is the new parkade being used?

[nname]

Seems like AC start re-numbering routes starting March 1st next year.

For mainline routes, most routes that are not in the range are moved to different flight number

9xx Europe, Mexico/Caribbean
10xx USA
11xx Canada
12xx USA
13xx Mexico/Caribbean
14xx -

All routes in the 1400s move to 21xx and 22xx (temporary?)

So affected flights from YVR:
YVR-YQR 65x -> 110x
YVR-YXE 64x -> 111x
YVR-IAH 1300 -> 1298
YVR-BNA 1310 -> 1232
YVR-HUX 1402 -> 2208

Also, all express routes in the 7000s will be moved to 8000s.

Not sure if they will start work on the long haul numbers next, for instance free up the 900-series for new XLR routes to Europe, or maybe move the South America routes somewhere to make more room for the Pacific routes...

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by ninjakafi_81

Some changes for British Airways for next summer

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

^ for the summer peak months:

1) better variety
2) a boost of approx 60 seats per flight
3) 24 more premium seats per flight

Shoulder months - again just shows how seasonal YVR-Europe is - and I’m pretty sure YVR has never seen the BA 788 before?

Overall, taking the whole S26 into account, it's a downgrade of service by BA to YVR (and YYZ).

Yes, for 2 months of the year, it's 59 more seats a day, but for the other 5 months of the summer season, it's a downgrade of 68 seats on most days. Calling it "shoulder season" doesn't change that fact.

Yes, YVR has never seen the B787-8, and seeing it is not a good thing:

1. It's the smallest widebody they have.
2. Don't know what it is with BA and the 787-8, but they go AOG very often. I would know, as I see them at YUL all the time, parked at a remote stand overnight due to a mechanical or other issues. I've often seen it depart at 3 or 4 am, 6 hours behind schedule.

I'm actually surprised they're bumping YUL up from the 787-8 to the 787-9/-10. We always saw those bigger frames on an ad-hoc basis, but it seems now they will be regularly scheduled.

Overall, it's clear what BA's strategy is. More US, US, US. Compared to what AF/KL and LH have done in Canada in the last 10-15 years, BA has done diddly squat ! More or less the same for EI and IB.

[nname]

Currently YVR-LGW is scheduled for longer season, for now...

In other news, F8 plan to resume YVR-YUL next summer, 1 daily red-eye. This bring F8's total at YVR to 106x weekly, beating previous record of 103x weekly I think.

Further schedule update is likely for F8, since the current plan will require the 6th plane on Sunday. So either they will need to cut some flights, or somehow find the 6th plane to add to YVR base (and add a lot of new flights).

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by nname

Currently YVR-LGW is scheduled for longer season, for now...

At risk of sounding like a broken record here, but as I've said countless times, less LHR and more LGW isn't a good thing.....

That's not my opinion. That's a fact.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

At risk of sounding like a broken record here, but as I've said countless times, less LHR and more LGW isn't a good thing.....

That's not my opinion. That's a fact.

Interesting statement, and no doubt true. My question is: in precisely what way and for what reasons. Airports such as those at world hubs like London make for interesting studying.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Tysonbrown

Is the new parkade being used?

?

At this point, permanently mothballed seems to be the plan.

[Calfan12]

T’WAY AIR NW25 VANCOUVER AIRCRAFT CHANGES

Korean carrier T’way Air this week filed aircraft changes on Seoul Incheon – Vancouver route during Northern winter 2025/26 season. From 28OCT25 to 28MAR26, the airline schedules A330-200 aircraft will serve this route 4 times weekly, replacing -300.

Schedule below focuses on the period of 30NOV25 – 07MAR26.

TW531 ICN2120 – 1425YVR 332 x135
TW532 YVR1625 – 2135+1ICN 332 x135

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/251023-twnw25yvr

[Calfan12]

AIR CANADA MARCH 2026 MANILA SERVICE INCREASE

Air Canada in recent schedule update filed temporarily service increase on Vancouver – Manila route, currently scheduled 4 times weekly.

From Vancouver, service between 09MAR26 to 27MAR26 will increase to 5 weekly, on board Boeing 787-9.

AC017 YVR0150 – 0645+1MNL 789 x46
AC018 MNL1005 – 0640YVR 789 x57

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/251024-acmar26mnl

[Klazu]

Wow, never seen a plane so low on the landing path and flying directly over Metrotown skyscrapers. It was also Philippines Airlines 777, so a big bird, and it could not have been more that 400-500 meters above ground, which is low considering presense of 200-meter buildings.

Definitely off the regular path that takes planes north of Metrotown and there is a risk of an accident in bad weather one day. There have been few other close flybys in the past, but this was notable.

[YVR Bruce]

It was a go around from 900 ft. Shows on FR24 as having being at 3,500' turning to a curved crosswind over Metrotown.
It was at a more dramatic level in the climb over 60th & Oak, under full power.

[Johnny Aussie]

BA have a few changes this week

BA 86 ended its seasonal service on the 23rd

BA 84 switched to a 77W for the 18th to the 23rd then back to a 772 for the 24th and 25th and then to a 35K starting the 26th for the winter season

Meanwhile KL’s final 77W for the season was today - 332s take over for the winter season Saturday

LH’s final 744 for the season was today as it changes to the 343 starting tomorrow for the winter

Condor’s final flight of the season also today

Edelweiss last flight of the season was yesterday

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

It was a go around from 900 ft. Shows on FR24 as having being at 3,500' turning to a curved crosswind over Metrotown.

Thanks, I was sure the data was available. Felt really close by and I wish I would have seen it coming to take a video, but I only took note of the flyover.

Even then, it boggles the mind why they did send them directly towards a skyscraper cluster on top of a hill. Considering that most towers don't even have warning lights, I could very well see an accident in the future.

[Klazu]

Two weeks ago I had the opportunity of flying Fiji Airways direct betweeb YVR and Nadi, as we visited Fiji for a vacation. It's a convenient connection with a 11.5-hour night flight to NAN.

We were originally scheduled to fly on their new A350, but FJ changed the outbound date from Friday to Saturday, which had us lose a day. No compensation has so far been offered for the lost hotel night, since schedule change was "less than 24 hours" at 23h and 55min.

So, we were off to a bad start and also the plane got changed to an ancient A330-200. The plane had some serious wear-and-tear and had an ancient infotainment system with a joystic.

The flight itswlf was still pleasant and their policy allows for 2×30kg of luggage in Economy, which is a lot. Just be aware, that their inter-island ATR's only allow for 15kg of luggage, if you are traveling outside of Viti Levu.

On the way back we flew with their brand new A350 on service to LAX. It is a very plesant plane and I have to compliment food being good on both flights. A350 has a 3+3+3 which was less convenient for us than the 2+4+2 founf on A330.

The airport in Nadi is a good connection point onwards to Australia and New Zealand, which is the traffic FJ is serving here. So, if you are on your way there, I would consider Fiji Airways as an option, as prices can be pretty attractive.

[RedArbutus]

Originally Posted by Klazu

The airport in Nadi is a good connection point onwards to Australia and New Zealand, which is the traffic FJ is serving here. So, if you are on your way there, I would consider Fiji Airways as an option, as prices can be pretty attractive.

We flew YVR->SYD via Nadi two years ago (and AKL->YVR on the way back) and really enjoyed Fiji Air. Great competitor to AC, Qantas, and Air NZ.

I did feel bad going to Nadi airport though and getting the, ah, performance (?) for all passengers transiting, with none from multiple flights staying in Fiji and everyone going off to Sydney, Auckland, or elsewhere lol.

[Johnny Aussie]

Flair started MEX today

YVR-MEX becomes the latest route with (at least) 3 carriers on it

https://news.yvr.ca/flair-mexico-city/

[thenoflyzone]

^ YVR-MEX returns to the list of routes with 3 carriers on it.

AC, AM and Interjet were on the route, before Interjet went bye bye in 2020.

[Johnny Aussie]

Edelweiss S26 changes… 359s being maintained

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/251030-wkns26yvr

Edelweiss Air in this week’s schedule update revised planned Zurich – Vancouver route during Northern summer 2026 season. Initially scheduled from 08APR26, the airline now plans to operate this route from 05MAY26.

This route is initially scheduled 4 weekly, increasing to 6 weekly from 25MAY26, 1 daily from 19JUN26, 5 weekly from 03SEP26, 4 weekly from 01OCT26. In addition, the airline will continue to maintain A350-900 aircraft on this route, instead of initially filed A340-300.

WK010/LX8010 ZRH1325 – 1445YVR 359 D
WK011/LX8011 YVR1640 – 1125+1ZRH 359 D