Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Werthers

Good point

While the Liberals are good at politics they're horrible at governing (especially since Trudeau was elected) but sadly most Canadians either don't notice or don't care



It's not just politicians it's bleeding heart lefty judges too
> that is a big part of it, yes, IMO

I lived in the downtown eastside in '92-'93 and was the victim of numerous crimes so i can't even imagine what it's like now but i'll bet prison is safer

Originally Posted by Werthers

You've obviously never heard of the Guardian Angels although they were around long before the internet

I recall several decades ago, the Guardian Angels being called in to keep order in the New York subway, after a spate of brutal crimes there. I wonder how they made out.

[jollyburger]

CCTV images of the Yaletown stabber





https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/10/12/vancouver-yaletown-stabbings-suspect-images/

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I recall several decades ago, the Guardian Angels being called in to keep order in the New York subway, after a spate of brutal crimes there. I wonder how they made out.

They seem to still be around, they also expanded and apparently Vancouver has had a chapter since 2006.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by cganuelas1995

They seem to still be around, they also expanded and apparently Vancouver has had a chapter since 2006.

There was a chapter in the late 1980s, that faded away after about 5 years. It was revived in 2006, and by 2011 there were 10 active members. The group seems to have disappeared not long after that. One of the people involved in reviving the group in 2006 talked about starting it up again last year, but nothing seems to have happened as a result.

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There was a chapter in the late 1980s, that faded away after about 5 years. It was revived in 2006, and by 2011 there were 10 active members. The group seems to have disappeared not long after that. One of the people involved in reviving the group in 2006 talked about starting it up again last year, but nothing seems to have happened as a result.

I guess that group quietly disappeared. Nowadays we have stuff like creepcatcher and stuff like that.

[kikin]

Originally Posted by Werthers

Good point

While the Liberals are good at politics they're horrible at governing (especially since Trudeau was elected) but sadly most Canadians either don't notice or don't care

...

meanwhile Trudeau is worth $100 million and having fun outside of Canada with his near billionaire younger superstar girlfriend... Carney I think is doing financially well too and will probably another very happy rich guy when this 4 years is up


on another note, "Confronted by a thug on East Hastings"... that thug is taking the constant "unceded lands" virtue signalling to heart:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7SY0v9muInI2VkfePRlR_g

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

CCTV images of the Yaletown stabber





https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/10/12/vancouver-yaletown-stabbings-suspect-images/

Scary to think such a crazy could still be at large waiting to randomly stab people innocently going about their daily business.

[jollyburger]

The 35-year-old woman, suspected of stabbing four strangers, was arrested at around 4:20 p.m. on Monday in the Downtown Eastside

https://vancouversun.com/news/we-fear-th...ur-people?itm_source=regular---hero-feed

[casper]

Originally Posted by kikin

meanwhile Trudeau is worth $100 million and having fun outside of Canada with his near billionaire younger superstar girlfriend... Carney I think is doing financially well too and will probably another very happy rich guy when this 4 years is up


on another note, "Confronted by a thug on East Hastings"... that thug is taking the constant "unceded lands" virtue signalling to heart:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7SY0v9muInI2VkfePRlR_g

The downtown east side has been a problem for the last 30 years (if not longer). There have been multiple attempts by liberal and conservative leaning governments to fix the problem. Yet we are where we are.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://vancouversun.com/news/we-fear-th...ur-people?itm_source=regular---hero-feed

So we can expect to see her back on the streets in, what, a day or two?

[cganuelas1995]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Scary to think such a crazy could still be at large waiting to randomly stab people innocently going about their daily business.

Yeah keep your head on a swivel, walk like you think people are following you around I say. I commute from downtown to work during the early morning when the streetlights are on, a few times I've taken the bus at the stop up the road because of rough looking people at my usual stop.

[kikin]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://vancouversun.com/news/we-fear-th...ur-people?itm_source=regular---hero-feed

any charges yet? do we have a name? mugshot?

[logan5]

Originally Posted by kikin

any charges yet? do we have a name? mugshot?

what do we need that here for?

New data from the Vancouver Police Department suggests the rate of violent crime is falling since the beginning of the year.

A report going to the Vancouver Police Board Thursday says that the decline is so substantial, these are the lowest numbers in more than 20 years.

“Total crime decreased by 0.9% in Q1 2025 compared to Q1 2024, from 10,012 to 9,921 crimes,” the report stated.

“Violent crime declined by 11.2% in Q1 2025 compared to Q1 2024, with the number of cases dropping from 1,342 to 1,192 – the lowest number of violent crimes on record in Vancouver going back to the implementation of PRIME in 2002.”

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/19/vancouver-police-violent-crime-down-data/

[kikin]

Originally Posted by logan5

what do we need that here for?

So we can watch out for her when she is back on the streets by the weekend.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by logan5

what do we need that here for?

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/19/vancouver-police-violent-crime-down-data/

According to CBC there are two random/stranger attacks every day in Vancouver. That's not reassuring or acceptable.

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[logan5]

Pollution and garbage have a hugely detrimental effect on livability. We should have a thread for that too. Moreso than the general crime thread.

[jollyburger]

Doesn't seem like she has any criminal record.

39400-1 HAMELIN, TAMARA Jean 1 Vancouver Provincial Court 17-Oct-2025
09:30 AM 101 JIR
39400-1 HAMELIN, TAMARA Jean 1 Vancouver Provincial Court 14-Oct-2025
05:00 PM 101 JIR IBJ

https://justice.gov.bc.ca/cso/criminal/file/appearances.do?fileID=7573984.0009

[jollyburger]

On Tuesday, it announced that the B.C. Prosecution Service approved one count of assault against Tamara Hamelin, 35. She remains in custody, police said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c...awall-arrest-35-year-old-woman-9.6937504

[Werthers]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The Guardian Angels haven't existed in Vancouver since 2006, and given the climate, I wouldn't trust any hypothetical successor to not be just another ICE.

I had no idea they even had a chapter in Vancouver, i just knew them from patrolling the NYC subways in the 70's and 80's

There's no way they could be another ICE because ICE isn't a vigilante group, they're a government agency, the acronym stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They sound so cold though, they'd probably be more popular if they changed the acronym to National Immigration and Customs Enforcement

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Werthers

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I don't dispute the argument that it may have worked then... but "then" isn't "now."

Missing the point entirely - these days, the people who'd sign up to be Guardian Angels are more likely to be thugs and wannabes themselves rather than Good Samaritans.