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Old Posted May 21, 2024, 7:23 PM
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A 2+1 setup on the 50 seems a low-cost and prudent means to improve safety until a final four-lane configuration can be eventually be achieved.

It mitigates the foolishness of risky passing maneuvers using the oncoming lanes. Since the 50 is (mostly?) grade-separated as-is, a barrier between oncoming traffic doesn't affect access to the road.

The alternating passing lanes ensure that traffic gets an opportunity to pass safely and at regular intervals.
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Old Posted May 21, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Are you saying that people need to cross over the median for every slow truck? That's super dangerous and blatantly illegal, please stay on the 417.
Was the accident where there is no passing allowed? Barrier in those zones is cost effective but I assume the accidents happen where passing is allowed. Even those illegally crossing in the no passing probably don't do it in the narrow gaps like some do where passing is allowed.
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 12:43 AM
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It's always where passing isn't allowed. Passing is never allowed using oncoming lanes on the A50.

Honestly, I've never found traffic or speed on the A50 between Gatineau and Mirabel bad at all. Seems widening the entire way in unnecessary. A barrier alone would be enough. Widening for safety reasons seems like cutting a sandwich with a chainsaw.
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It's always where passing isn't allowed. Passing is never allowed using oncoming lanes on the A50.

Honestly, I've never found traffic or speed on the A50 between Gatineau and Mirabel bad at all. Seems widening the entire way in unnecessary. A barrier alone would be enough. Widening for safety reasons seems like cutting a sandwich with a chainsaw.
There's sections with a shared lane. Those seem safer than two lane passing in theory but the yield rules are unusual for newcomers.

Certainly the speed would increase with twinning it and it's kind of weird to have a two lane highway with limited access. Though agreed it works most times of the day fairly well.
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As others have said, it's illegal to cross the centre line which is double yellow along the entire length of the undivided 2-lane super-2 segments and also features a rumble strip just so you get the message.

I've driven this highway countless times and I don't think I've ever seen anyone pass in these segments.

I assume that a lot of the deadly head-on collisions are people who are drunk, tired or distracted and who cross over the middle line in spite of the rumble strip, but can't correct in time and find themselves in oncoming traffic.

As opposed to dangerous passing manoeuvres.

That said, the cable barriers near Buckingham (now removed due to the twinning for that segment) seemed pretty effective, and I've always wondered why they didn't install them on all of the undivided segments of the A50.
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As others have said, it's illegal to cross the centre line which is double yellow along the entire length of the undivided 2-lane super-2 segments and also features a rumble strip just so you get the message.

I've driven this highway countless times and I don't think I've ever seen anyone pass in these segments.

I assume that a lot of the deadly head-on collisions are people who are drunk, tired or distracted and who cross over the middle line in spite of the rumble strip, but can't correct in time and find themselves in oncoming traffic.

As opposed to dangerous passing manoeuvres.

That said, the cable barriers near Buckingham (now removed due to the twinning for that segment) seemed pretty effective, and I've always wondered why they didn't install them on all of the undivided segments of the A50.
I've seen it at least once. Happened to me on a Monday afternoon a couple weeks ago. Big pick-up truck thought I was going to slow driving under 110 km/h.

It does seem drunk/tired/distracted and even suicide are more common, but don't under estimate the jack-asses of the World who refuse to go less than 20-30 km/h over the limit.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Plus de 18 000 constats d’infraction depuis 2022 sur l’A-50
Par Daniel LeBlanc, Le Droit
17 juin 2024 à 14h50


Considérée dangereuse par plusieurs avec les voies contiguës sur une portion de sa longueur et théâtre de multiples accidents mortels – d’autres mesures de sécurisation y seront bientôt déployées, promet-on –, l’autoroute 50 est aussi un endroit où les comportements inadéquats, voire dangereux, sont fréquents.

Une demande formulée par Le Droit auprès de la Sûreté du Québec (SQ) a permis d’apprendre qu’un total de 18 438 constats d’infraction ont été distribués sur l’autoroute Guy-Lafleur, entre Gatineau et Mirabel, depuis le 1er janvier 2022 jusqu’en date de mai dernier.

Si 98 % des amendes – plus de 18 000 – sont reliées à un excès de vitesse, les policiers y ont aussi donné 298 constats pour dépassement interdit ou dépassement dangereux, notamment sur la portion où on ne compte qu’une seule voie dans chaque direction; en plus de 59 autres pour conduite ou vitesse imprudente. Trois automobilistes ont aussi été épinglés pour course, un geste téméraire qui vient avec 12 points d’inaptitude.

Nouvelle mesures?

Alors que Québec se prépare à annoncer le déploiement d’un plan de match pour sécuriser davantage l’autoroute sur le tronçon compris entre Thurso et Mirabel et que des mesures coercitives pourraient aussi faire partie du lot – certains réclament une plus grande présence policière –, les autorités policières assurent que le plus important axe routier reliant l’Outaouais et les Laurentides est surveillé.

«Il y a présence policière, oui. C’est sûr qu’il y a des journées où, dépendant des appels, peut-être qu’on ne la verra pas, mais il y en a vraiment une. Et on va bonifier avec nos policiers de soutien lors de campagnes spécifiques, par exemple lors de longs congés ou d’opérations nationales. Il y a alors des policiers supplémentaires affectés, des postes de Gatineau ou de Mascouche», affirme d’emblée le sergent Marc Tessier.

Des opérations différentes d’il y a 20 ans

Le porte-parole explique que les façons de faire du corps policier ont aussi évolué et on ajuste les opérations selon le comportement des usagers de la route.

Jusqu’ici cette année, selon les données les plus récentes disponibles, 2764 constats ont été donnés par les patrouilleurs sur l’autoroute Guy-Lafleur. Si la tendance se maintient, l’année se conclurait avec une baisse, mais les statistiques sont à interpréter avec prudence à cette étape-ci, dit-on.

«C’est sûr que durant l’été, il y a plus de constats, ne serait-ce qu’à cause de la température. Le portrait de juin, juillet et août risque de faire augmenter quand même les données», affirme M. Tessier.

Au moins 25 morts depuis 2020

D’autre part, des données fournies par le ministère des Transports et de la Mobilité durable (MTMD) indiquent que les accidents survenus entre 2020 et 2022 sur l’autoroute 50 ont coûté la vie à 14 personnes, en plus de causer des blessures graves à 22 autres victimes.

Les données pour 2023 et la première portion de 2024 ne sont pas disponibles à ce stade-ci, plaide-t-on, mais à ce bilan peuvent s’ajouter au moins sept morts depuis janvier dernier – trois membres d’une même famille ont entre autres péri dans une collision frontale le 20 mai dernier – et quatre autres (selon une compilation effectuée par Le Droit) en 2023, ce qui porte le total à 25 décès en un peu moins de quatre ans et demi.

La SQ explique que même si les causes et circonstances varient d’une situation à l’autre, aucune collision n’est prise à la légère.

«On travaille toujours de concert avec nos partenaires, par exemple le ministère, par exemple pour voir dans quel secteur a eu lieu un accident mortel, quelles sont les causes potentielles, comment on peut les prévenir. On s’ajuste avec les statistiques du ministère et utilise tous les moyens qu’on a pour faire nos opérations, que ce soit les policiers motards ou ceux dans des véhicules banalisés ou réguliers», de dire le sergent Tessier, ajoutant qu’après une enquête sur des accidents, des constats d’infraction sont parfois acheminés, par exemple pour des manoeuvres de dépassement.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/a...BZ7US53B754MA/
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2024, 12:55 PM
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More police, speed cameras and barriers in the works for Highway 50
Politicians between Gatineau and Montreal have long called for a safer road

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Posted: Jul 05, 2024 8:51 AM EDT | Last Updated: 3 minutes ago


The Quebec government is rolling out a series of safety-related changes along Highway 50, starting with more police and possibly leading to better safety barriers.

In a Friday news release, Transport Minister Geneviève Guilbault said the changes will start in the coming weeks with more police surveillance and an awareness campaign to remind drivers not to speed, take risks or drive while extremely tired.

Mobile speed radar could be set up by the end of this year, she said.

Finally, the province said it's going to analyze 87 kilometres of highway between L'Ange Gardien and Mirabel, where the highway ends, to see where it could install safety barriers along the median.

The barriers could be cables, steel or concrete and the work to install them could start in autumn 2025, according to the province.

Pressure to make more changes on the highway connecting Gatineau and the Montreal area increased this year after multiple fatal collisions. Municipal leaders met with the province in the spring to push for improvements.

There have already been changes made closer to Gatineau, including cable barriers, after similar advocacy. The province also said in 2022 it would be widening Highway 50 in stages over the next decade.

With files from Radio-Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...rier-1.7255126
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Took a while, but they are finally doing something. I guess they know their rear end is on the line, so after 6 years, I guess they actually have to work.
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Another broken promise from the CAQ. Shocker.

Funny how they promised us the World, did none of it, and now they're broke.

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L’élargissement de l’autoroute 50 mis sur pause

Par Megan Rochette, LeDroit
3 juin 2025 à 20h51


Le projet d’élargissement de l’autoroute 50 entre L’Ange-Gardien et Lachute est interrompu pour des raisons budgétaires.

Le cabinet de la ministre des Transports et de la Mobilité durable du Québec, Geneviève Guilbault, a confirmé «qu’aucun budget n’est disponible à court terme» pour poursuivre l’élargissement à quatre voies de l’autoroute 50 entre L’Ange-Gardien et Lachute.

L’élargissement de ce tronçon de 87 kilomètres est donc mis sur pause et reprendra «dès que le contexte budgétaire le permettra», affirme-t-on.

Comme le Plan québécois des infrastructures (PQI) est revu annuellement des activités liées à ce projet pourraient reprendre, a indiqué le cabinet de la ministre Guilbault.

Dans le PQI, le gouvernement du Québec prévoit plutôt un nouveau projet de «maintien et de bonification» des tronçons entre L’Ange-Gardien et Lachute.

«Le plan d’action prévoira toutefois des interventions visant à améliorer la sécurité de cette portion de l’autoroute 50», assure-t-on au cabinet de la ministre.

«L’analyse des 87 km de voies contiguës entre L’Ange-Gardien et Mirabel est en cours afin de déterminer les sites où il sera possible de mettre en place une glissière de sécurité médiane pour séparer les voies», précise-t-on.

En d’autres mots, des glissières de sécurité médiane - comme on a pu voir entre L’Ange-Gardien et Gatineau avant l’élargissement de l’autoroute sur une dizaine de kilomètres en août dernier - seront installées sur les tronçons les plus dangereux.

Le cabinet de la ministre Guilbault soutient que «plus d’information sur le premier tronçon ciblé sera disponible dans les prochains mois».

En 2022, le gouvernement Legault promettait l’élargissement à quatre voies de l’entièreté de l’autoroute 50 d’ici 2032 compte tenu des nombreux accidents mortels survenus au fil des ans.
https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/a...KS4IGMM5ZAUJE/
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Another fatality

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Crash kills man in his 60s near Grenville-sur-la-Rouge
Eastbound vehicle veered into oncoming traffic near Grenville-sur-la-Rouge Thursday afternoon: police

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Posted: Sep 05, 2025 8:39 AM EDT | Last Updated: 44 minutes ago


A man in his 60s was killed late Thursday after crashing into an oncoming vehicle while driving on Highway 50 near Grenville-sur-la-Rouge, Quebec provincial police say.

Police were called to the scene at about 5 p.m. after the man, who was driving east on Autoroute Guy-Lafleur, veered off course and hit the other vehicle, Sûreté du Québec told Radio-Canada.

The man was pronounced dead in hospital. Two other people were injured.

Police are still investigating the cause of the accident. Highway 50 was closed in both directions in the area, and reopened at about 11 p.m.

With files from Radio-Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ouge-1.7625912
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Too many deaths on this stretch of road, something needs to be done
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For about 4 years the province was testing centreline barriers on the section between the 315 and the 309. They been taken out now since that section is fully twinned, but I don't think I've seen any report on the effectiveness at reducing cross over collisions.

Does anyone know if a final report was ever issued?
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Too many deaths on this stretch of road, something needs to be done
CAQ did do something; they canceled the full twinning of the A50 after promising it for 6 years.

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For about 4 years the province was testing centreline barriers on the section between the 315 and the 309. They been taken out now since that section is fully twinned, but I don't think I've seen any report on the effectiveness at reducing cross over collisions.

Does anyone know if a final report was ever issued?
I don't remember an official report, but it was tested (as in real life vehicles collided with it over those few years) and deemed an effective solution.

The Quebec Government should have, at the very minimum, installed these over the entire length of A50 to secure it, but they haven't installed a single new meter. When they canceled the full widening, they said they'd look into installing more barriers, but that hasn't happened.

Truly a bunch of terrible, useless people representing the Outaouais.
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