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Old Posted Aug 27, 2025, 3:37 PM
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NIMBYs will be happy with this Broadway Plan proposal.

Tiny site replacing a 6 storey concrete West End looking tower

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1089 W 13TH AVENUE, Vancouver, BC V6H 1N1

Current rezoning enquiry stage and preliminary letter issued for city staff comments. New 6-8 storey strata residential CD-1 Broadway Plan development proposal.
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=268861475



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In March 2018, the strata corporation obtained a building envelope condition assessment from a local engineering firm that determined building envelope repairs estimated to cost $1,110,000 were required. A second opinion report was obtained by another local engineering firm in December 2018 that suggested the building envelope repairs could be done in 3 phases over a number of years at a total estimated cost of $1,680,525. No building envelope repairs have been completed thus far. It is reported there are ongoing active water ingress issues.

In June 2019, the City of Vancouver issued a Work Order requiring structural improvements and fire stopping to the 2 stairways in the building—no work has been done to resolve this issue. With the City’s knowledge, an engineering firm was retained to provide an opinion on the condition of the stairways. Based on the engineer’s opinion that the stairways are an immediate life safety issue, steps are being taken to install shoring in the stairways to eliminate the life safety issue along with fire stopping work to be completed as well.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2025, 3:41 PM
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Granville Island Village (Strata Wind Up/Redevelopment)

Granville Island Village is one of the most unique redevelopment land parcels with immediate proximity to downtown Vancouver. A stone’s throw to many vibrant amenities including Granville Island, Broadway, the Pier, local and artisan shopping in False Creek, Kitsilano and Fairview Slopes. Boasting an incredible combination of panoramic ocean inlet, downtown and mountain views it has one of the most captivating vistas in the city to behold. The property itself is over 2.24 acres with no view cones on fee simple land. Influenced by the Broadway and False Creek South Plans the 146 strata units combines into 114,463 sf of improved area. The current density is approximately 1.3 FSR.
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Only 6 units - one per floor - no wonder they balked at the remediation costs.

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NIMBYs will be happy with this Broadway Plan proposal.

Tiny site replacing a 6 storey concrete West End looking tower

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=268861475



Strata windup



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Old Posted Aug 27, 2025, 8:09 PM
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DP for 469-483 E 10th is now up on shapeyourcity.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/469-483-e-10-ave-2

The design has changed from the rezoning, IMO for the better.


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Old Posted Aug 27, 2025, 8:30 PM
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Only 6 units - one per floor - no wonder they balked at the remediation costs.
Yeah, never buy in a multistory strata with that few units.

I'm surprised the city could order work done if the building was built to code at the time?
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2025, 11:47 PM
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Twin towers at Pine and 8th. Unusually, for the Broadway Corridor, 421 strata units, (by Chris Dikeakos for Amacon). There's also 107 social housing units in the podium, and a childcare. I think that was the Delta Land site for the 'Earth Tower', if so that's presumably now dead.



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Old Posted Aug 28, 2025, 1:04 AM
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Was this originally supposed to be the wood tower on the site of the old bank clearing bunker?
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Yes, there's some permits that I think madog spotted recently and posted about.
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Yes. I don't care for it either. Outside a couple of sleek buildings in the CBD, Vancouver doesn't seem to do elegance very well. Take Harbour Centre, ugly and brutalist, yet a heritage building.
That example I used is to express my thoughts about the new Broadway. Here's a chance to make a stylish street, yet people seem to want to make it all as bland, boxy, and unspiring as ever.
Vancouver's elegance started going downhill after the lack of social housing became a hot topic.. Not saying we should make projects look more elegant at the expense of affordability, but we just stopped caring at a certain point in the past 10 or so years. Not only that, but we also stopped caring about exploring Vancouver's unique style of building designs.
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Douglas Todd: Broadway Plan is going to build 1000 office towers

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They’re engaging in other useful efforts as well, despite Vancouver’s decision on the Broadway plan, which aims to make 500 blocks of the Broadway corridor into a massive “second downtown” of commercial office towers, rental and condo highrises, home to an oversized total of 129,000 jobs.

Christina DeMarco, former head of planning for Metro Vancouver regional district, says councillors’ move flies in the face of how Vancouver had earlier agreed to a more inclusive plan to make Surrey Centre the region’s “second downtown” and allow more people to work closer to home.

DeMarco said adding scores of office towers to the Broadway corridor contradicts regional efforts to reduce commuting times, cut carbon emissions and distribute jobs more equitably throughout Metro’s town centres.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...rowing-up?itm_source=regular---hero-feed
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Douglas Todd: Broadway Plan is going to build 1000 office towers



https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...rowing-up?itm_source=regular---hero-feed
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Christina DeMarco, former head of planning for Metro Vancouver regional district, says councillors’ move flies in the face of how Vancouver had earlier agreed to a more inclusive plan to make Surrey Centre the region’s “second downtown” and allow more people to work closer to home.

DeMarco said adding scores of office towers to the Broadway corridor contradicts regional efforts to reduce commuting times, cut carbon emissions and distribute jobs more equitably throughout Metro’s town centres.
What are we suppose to do? Force companies to have their offices in Surrey, when they would rather be a part of the synergy of the downtown area? Let them set up where they want.

And dense neighbourhoods have the smallest carbon footprints in the Metro Region. When the Broadway corridor gets all these new office towers and residential towers, there will be more people walking and riding to work, or taking transit, than anywhere else in the Metro region... by far.

That Sun article sounds like it is politically driven.
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And Central Broadway was always in the Metro Vancouver plans as regional business centre along with Surrey. Not to mention it was already one of the largest employment centres in the city.

His old retired urban planner buddies aren't going to invite him to any parties when he's in the anti-Vancouverism camp.
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I'm disappointed they didn't zone the neighbourhood between 2nd, main, broadway, and cambie as Brentwood-style density. It would have been the perfect place to let developers build whatever commercial and residential they want. Perfect blank slate to have clubs, bars, etc. too.
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The Vancouver Sun is constantly NIMBY, in particular a few columnists.

I can't wait for Broadway to rival downtown for live/work.
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I'm disappointed they didn't zone the neighbourhood between 2nd, main, broadway, and cambie as Brentwood-style density. It would have been the perfect place to let developers build whatever commercial and residential they want. Perfect blank slate to have clubs, bars, etc. too.
They were concerned about displacing a large concentration of central "I" zoned employment that they've effectively banned from most of the city.
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Douglas Todd: Broadway Plan is going to build 1000 office towers



https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...rowing-up?itm_source=regular---hero-feed
What office towers? The vast majority of proposals so far have been residential with just one or a couple levels of commercial space…
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What office towers? The vast majority of proposals so far have been residential with just one or a couple levels of commercial space…
Yes, that seemed a bit weird. The way work/employment trends are going I'd say it is unlikely to become some office mecca.
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Douglas Todd: Broadway Plan is going to build 1000 office towers

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...rowing-up?itm_source=regular---hero-feed
The article title (now) is "Vancouver’s suburbs are not sprawling. They’re growing up". The only reference to Broadway Plan offices is the quote "Christina DeMarco, former head of planning for Metro Vancouver regional district, says councillors’ move flies in the face of how Vancouver had earlier agreed to a more inclusive plan to make Surrey Centre the region’s “second downtown” and allow more people to work closer to home.

DeMarco said adding scores of office towers to the Broadway corridor contradicts regional efforts to reduce commuting times, cut carbon emissions and distribute jobs more equitably throughout Metro’s town centres.
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Todd has a comment on jobs "Vancouver’s decision on the Broadway plan, which aims to make 500 blocks of the Broadway corridor into a massive “second downtown” of commercial office towers, rental and condo highrises, home to an oversized total of 129,000 jobs." This is one of a series of anti-development, anti-Broadway Plan stories he's written.

If you look at the projects in Mount Pleasant there are already at least 10 office buildings (although none are towers). They will contribute to more jobs in the Broadway Plan area, as will new office buildings near VCC like Hive, an expanding VGH, and if it's ever built, the new City Hall complex. There should be more retail and service jobs as more retail (like City Market for example) opens to serve the expanding residential and empliment population.

DeMarco would be concerned about the switch from industrial to office because she wrote the City's policy on protecting Industrial Lands (before she moved to Metro). She doesn't seem to appreciate that there still has to be 'industrial' space underneath the office buildings (in the Industrial Area), so if there's demand, there's a continuing supply of space.

Letting significant residential into the area would be a huge threat to some of the businesses there, both in terms of what they do (breweries for example), and as land values would be rachetted up even more than they already have been. (Clubs are already allowed).

There are valid criticisms of municipalities like Surrey and Burnaby that they've been willing to convert requirements for commercial space in their station area mega-projects to residential. There's very little office actually being built. Brentwood Mall, once it's finally become the fully built out Amazing Brentwood, may well have amazingly reduced the area of retail space, and built no office space at all. But there's also less office space in the Broadway Plan than there might have been - office projects on East Broadway, and by Main St SkyTrain station have been switched to residential too. So far the City of Vancouver has been more cautious about wholesale swiching of employment land to residential, so it doesn't have the bedroom high-rise communities, without much employment space, that most other municipalities are allowing.
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Yes, that seemed a bit weird. The way work/employment trends are going I'd say it is unlikely to become some office mecca.
companies are going back to the in-office work model, but the bigger problem is the lack of business and jobs in general in Canada I guess
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It's a very rare opportunity to be able to build an office tower on top of, or only a few feet away from a subway station, so there will be developers who will want to build. An office tower with that kind of amenity will attract tenants away from other offices in a lesser location.
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