Broadway Corridor Updates

[jollyburger]

DP application went in for the PCI project behind South Granville Station in June

Primary Location: 1434 W 8TH AVENUE, Vancouver, BC V6H 1E1


Specific Location:


Work Description: To develop a 25-storey mixed-use building plus a rooftop amenity level, consisting of Retail on the ground floor and Office spaces on the second floor, a total of 153 secured rental residential units of which 20% of the residential floor area will be for below-market rental units, all over three levels of underground parking having vehicular access from the lane, subject to Council approval of CD-1 by-law and form of development.

From C-3A to CD-1. Related to RZ-2023-00049.



Type of Work: New Building

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=266835771

[Changing City]

The crane on the 2538 Birch rental tower was coming down today.

Duet, (2511 Spruce, on Broadway) currently at the top (10th) floor of frame construction seems to have closed down. No obvious construction activity in the past month.

[jollyburger]

April inspection said the site might have been inactive but the last few reports didn't mention anything

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Download.aspx?PosseObjectId=261461168

[Doodler]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

April inspection said the site might have been inactive but the last few reports didn't mention anything

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Download.aspx?PosseObjectId=261461168

This seems unfortunate for Minglian. They also engaged GBL to design their Terralux winery in West Kelowna. When I drive by to visit my in-laws I see that some concrete work has been poured, but the site has sat empty for years. Hope they don't follow in the likes of Coromandel and others.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by madog222

DP submitted last month.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=264779376

Now up on shapeyourcity (with minimal additional information) and it's already approved as of yesterday.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2111-main-st-2

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Changing City

The crane on the 2538 Birch rental tower was coming down today.

Duet, (2511 Spruce, on Broadway) currently at the top (10th) floor of frame construction seems to have closed down. No obvious construction activity in the past month.

I'm sad to have missed the Birch crane come down, but the mural looks really nice.

As for Duet, that one has been stop and go since the beginning. They have a DP in review to change the cladding materials, which may explain the current delay.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=268570773

[Changing City]

130 West Broadway is now up on Shape Your City. No mention now of Neil Denari, only Arcadis IBI, but similar to the approved rezoning, with one additional floor on each tower. Now 532 rental apartments over retail, with the privately owned public open space and second floor restaurant and childcare (to be owned by the City). Only 87 parking spaces (down from over 300 in the first rezoning).



[Changing City blog]

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Changing City

130 West Broadway is now up on Shape Your City. No mention now of Neil Denari, only Arcadis IBI, but similar to the approved rezoning, with one additional floor on each tower. Now 532 rental apartments over retail, with the privately owned public open space and second floor restaurant and childcare (to be owned by the City). Only 87 parking spaces (down from over 300 in the first rezoning).



[Changing City blog]

87 packing spots is insane they will all be rented and parking will be an issue for future residents.

that said I like the usage and looks of the tower will change this area alot.

[logan5]

Out of 532 units, you are certainly going to have a lot more than 87 people who own a car. There is already very limited street parking. I would provide 532/2 = 266 parking spots. That's a realistic number of people that will in that building with cars.

[csbvan]

Pretty tough market to build in. Makes sense to dramatically reduce costs by reducing parking.

[seamusmcduff]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

87 packing spots is insane they will all be rented and parking will be an issue for future residents.

that said I like the usage and looks of the tower will change this area alot.

Remember that by the time this is built it's going to be a few blocks from a major intersection of two SkyTrain lines. I think less people will own vehicles here than you'd think.

[AlessioSBT]

Originally Posted by seamusmcduff

Remember that by the time this is built it's going to be a few blocks from a major intersection of two SkyTrain lines. I think less people will own vehicles here than you'd think.

I live in the area and i don't own a car even if i could. It just makes no sense. The cost is completely out of proportion for what you get. Obviously a lot of people need a car but if you live around here or in downtown i really don't see the value in it. Assuming you can go to work with the skytrain, Uber or renting a car every single time you need to go somewhere else doesn't even reach 10-20% of the cost of owning a car. And between here and downtown you are already covered for pretty much all the daily-things you could need.

If you think about all that money going in your RRSP instead (imagine the compound interest on 20-30 years), really, i don't see the point.

I am not saying that people should not have the option, but definitely there are worse places where you can live without a parking spot.

[csbvan]

Just wanted to note - the podium here is vastly improved from the rezoning. Nice to see an improved design from rezoning to DP.

[gaviscon]

Originally Posted by Changing City

130 West Broadway is now up on Shape Your City. No mention now of Neil Denari, only Arcadis IBI, but similar to the approved rezoning, with one additional floor on each tower. Now 532 rental apartments over retail, with the privately owned public open space and second floor restaurant and childcare (to be owned by the City). Only 87 parking spaces (down from over 300 in the first rezoning).



[Changing City blog]

Looks like a remodelling project for a brutalist apartment built in the 1970s

[logan5]

Is the retail canopy made of wood, or is that gold tinted glass?

If the City wants to turn Broadway into a "Great Street", careful consideration has to be given to the retail portion of these developments.

At least the sidewalks look extra wide, to accommodate large patio spaces. These patio spaces add visual interest to the pedestrian realm. We see an example of this along West 2nd in OV. The patios there counteract the oppressive facades of the retail spaces. Actually pretty good row of restaurants along West 2nd, for a block only though.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by logan5

Is the retail canopy made of wood, or is that gold tinted glass?

Solid overhang covered in bronze coloured metal panels.

[jollyburger]

The podium is designed to be visually distinct yet clearly connected
to the towers above. Its massing is gently articulated with rounded
corners and softened edges that help break down the overall scale at
street level. These curves are expressed not only in the building form
but also in the detailing of the bronze-toned metal canopy system.

The bronze canopy system is a key architectural element, which
wrapping continuously around both the Broadway, along Columbia
and into the lane frontages. The canopy provides a continous
covered pedestrian friendly experience, and this continuity is only
interrupted to serve as a guide into the POPS.

https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-cent...9597fac233665b199ca95e5884b1fae35a356da7

[logan5]

Originally Posted by madog222

Solid overhang covered in bronze coloured metal panels.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-cent...9597fac233665b199ca95e5884b1fae35a356da7

Ok thanks.

Far better than the usual glass canopy that get all dirty looking. I would hope those metal panels are made of aluminum, otherwise they will get super hot in the summer time and radiate heat down on pedestrians.

If the City ends up allowing residential in the Mt. Pleasant industrial zone (which they probly will), this section of Broadway will become super busy. Right now it's dead all the time.

[jollyburger]

Studio One and Porte.

2170 W 3rd Ave rezoning application

The City of Vancouver has received an application to rezone the subject site from RM-4 (Residential) District to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. The proposal is to allow for the development of a 19-storey residential rental building with a three-storey podium and includes:

166 units with 20% of the floor area for below-market units;
A floor space ratio (FSR) of 6.5; and
A building height of 62.1 m (203 ft.) with additional height for rooftop amenity space.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2170-w-3-ave

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by gaviscon

Looks like a remodelling project for a brutalist apartment built in the 1970s

Yes. I don't care for it either. Outside a couple of sleek buildings in the CBD, Vancouver doesn't seem to do elegance very well. Take Harbour Centre, ugly and brutalist, yet a heritage building.
That example I used is to express my thoughts about the new Broadway. Here's a chance to make a stylish street, yet people seem to want to make it all as bland, boxy, and unspiring as ever.