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Old Posted Aug 17, 2025, 3:55 PM
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A rare Pershing Square vista

Greetings, noirish sleuths!

This magic lantern slide is currently on eBay, shot from a rooftop on the south side of today's Pershing Square.

Does anyone know where the photographer is standing? Have you seen other images of these beautiful wire-wrapped globe lamps?

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2025, 4:01 PM
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Have we seen the residence of Paul Haupt before?


From (unnumbered) ad pages at back of the 1904 https://books.google.com/books?id=AFRDAQ...IHVAeL2MQ6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false



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Old Posted Aug 17, 2025, 4:07 PM
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esotouric, I believe we'd be atop the Consolidated Realty Building at the SW corner of Hill & 6th:


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Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 4:10 PM
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^^Aww, which sadly looks like this now:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sixth+..._ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I wonder when it was reskinned. The 1950s or 60s, maybe?
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 9:18 PM
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Captioned simply "First home".... photos are undated.

There was no location whatsoever indicated for these images....but they certainly could be in L.A, as these sorts of bungalows were all the rage here in the early decades of the last century....I would estimate the date as 1920's based on the attire.

What strikes me about these photos is....how can I phrase this tactfully, where I don't assume facts not in evidence.....what strikes me is how very comfortable these fellows appear to be with each other....


....detail....











....detail....

     
     
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 10:23 PM
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You're absolutely right, riichkay, the two men appear to be a couple.

Thanks so much for posting the photos.

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Thorne Street, Highland Park/Garvanza

I don't think we've been to Thorne Street since e_r took us there in 2013 to see the Judson Studios.

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The "1911 two story shingled crasftman/bungalow" mentioned above became the oldest family run art glass studio in the world.
The Judson Studios produced stained glass features in many prominent buildings in the theater district of downtown Los Angeles, and also
in the atrium of the Los Angeles Public Library. (as well as stained glass for two Frank Lloyd Wright projects, the Barnsdall and Ennis homes)

view from Thorne Street

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At one time, Thorne Street was called Rose Street. The 1902 map below notwithstanding, I believe the name was changed in 1900.
Also, Rose/Thorne ended at York Boulevard (Pasadena Avenue on the map below) until the city abandoned the NE end of the street
in 1905. Lots 2 and 10 in Block 42 are marked:



1902 Ruger's Map of Greater LA - WALLMAP-00071 @ LAPL


By 1920 Thorne Street looked like this. Lot 2 from the 1902 Ruger Map is 216 Thorne. Lot 10 is 6624 Thorne, which at some point later
was renumbered to 256, its address today. USC's CFA is the same building shown in e_r's post above:



Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LAPL


Philo Eugene Kinsley and his wife Mary purchased Lot 10 (actually, Lots 9 & 10) in August 1890. The next month, they sold the lots to
Dr. Daniel H. Thatcher. Thatcher sold both lots back to the Kinsleys in August 1893 but lived with them on Thorne St. until his death in
1900. The LA County Assessor says the house at what is now 256 Thorne was built in 1893, but I think it may have been a few years
before that.

William Lees Judson -- founder of the Judson Studios -- purchased Lot 2 (actually, Lots 2 & 3) in September 1894. The LA County Assessor
says his house at what is now 216 Thorne was built in 1894. USC's CFA (then known as the Los Angeles College of Fine Art, affiliated with
USC) was built in 1901 on Thorne no doubt because Judson, who was the college dean, lived across the street. He could go home for lunch!
Behind his home he built an octagonal stone building where he painted and taught his pupils:



November 28, 1895, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


Judson is at 216 Thorne through the 1927 LA City Directory. He died at his studio across the street on October 26, 1928.


Marked on this recent aerial are 216 and 256 Thorne. At upper right, 216 has a 2-story tower at the SW corner. Sort of at lower left, 256 has
a witch's hat in the NE corner that's hard to see here (but not in GSV) and a dormer just south of that. Both houses overlook the Arroyo Seco
and its namesake parkway:



Google Maps


At upper left is the Thatcher/Kinsley house. To its right is the Judson home; note the 2-story tower and what is probably the small octagonal
structure mentioned in the November 1895 article. The Judson home looks like it's being built, which would date the photo from late 1894 to
sometime before Easter Sunday 1895, when Pasadena's Raymond Hotel, seen in the distance over the second RR bridge, burned down. Also,
please note the shed and landscaping adjacent to the Thatcher/Kinsley home, and the trees behind it on the left:



Beatrice Sherwood Collection of Photographs @ Society of California Pioneers via Internet Archive


This undated photo shows the Thatcher/Kinsley home just right of center. There is no adjacent shed or landscaping, and no Judson house down the
street. Just above center are rows of plantings that seem to be at about the correct angle to be the rows of trees to the left of the house in the
previous photo, although they might be a bit too far away. If the previous photo is 1894/95, I think the area around the Thatcher/Kinsley home is
sufficiently different in this photo to date it c. 1891, if not a tad earlier (it depends on those trees*). In any case, that little house has seen a lot!



00028263 @ LAPL

* And the bridges. The bridge below the Thatcher/Kinsley home is different in the two photos, and the Arroyo Seco bridge just upstream might be
different in the two photos as well.


P.S. Noir on Rose/Thorne Street: In November 1898, a ~30-year-old widow named Mrs. Blinn Pierce began boarding at the Thatcher/Kinsley home.
In late December 1898, Thatcher, aged 80 and in his dotage, showed Pierce $1500 worth of diamonds he kept stashed in his room. A few days later,
Mrs. Pierce breathlessly announced she had to leave immediately for San Francisco. A few days after Mrs. Pierce left, Thatcher noticed his diamonds
were missing. This aroused suspicion.

Newspapers said Mrs. Pierce had seduced Horace Bell Jr away from his wife and family. Bell and Pierce had known each other since May 1898, and
he had visited her at the Thatcher/Kinsley home almost daily until mid-December 1898, when he left for San Francisco. Once Pierce joined him
there, Bell pawned the diamonds for her, but later the two had a falling out and Bell wrote from SF to Mrs. Kinsley about Pierce taking the diamonds
(which Thatcher's 1895 will gave, along with 4/5 of his estate, to Mrs. Kinsley). Pierce eventually returned to LA and was arrested in March 1900.

Thatcher testified at the preliminary hearing in March but died the day before the start of the trial in May. Bell testified at the preliminary hearing
but then would not cooperate with the prosecution and balked at testifying again. When he finally did, he would not confirm the story he gave at
the preliminary hearing. The trial ended in a hung jury, 7-5 to convict. A second trial was set for September, but with Thatcher dead and conflicting
testimony from the uncooperative Bell, the case was dismissed.

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Now that, my friend, is one fantastic post!

Thanks, Flyingwedge..


P.S...I had forgotten all about the Judson Studios.
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2025, 2:58 AM
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I just happened upon this slide/photograph on eBay.

Seller's description:..No Date Airplane View Los Angeles California Pakon Slide BU-I


Do any of you slaves noirishers recognize which MAY CO. store this is?



eBay LINK


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Old Posted Aug 22, 2025, 3:15 AM
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Here's another slide from the same eBay seller but this one isn't from an airplane.

So it's a mystery vantage point. (in my book)

Seller's description:.."June 1974 City View Los Angeles California Slide BP-E."



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FIND ME THAT SLANTED POLE. ...
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2025, 3:57 AM
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I just happened upon this slide/photograph on eBay.

Seller's description:..No Date Airplane View Los Angeles California Pakon Slide BU-I


Do any of you slaves noirishers recognize which MAY CO. store this is?



eBay LINK


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This location is in North Hollywood, opened in 1955. Laurel Canyon Blvd. and CA-170 are at left. Laurel Plaza mall was added in 1968, and this area is now a nearly-new mixed-use development called NoHo West. The May Co. building became a Macy's, closed in 2016 and is now office space. The single-story mall portion from this photo was demolished. Wikipedia indicates that part closed after the Northridge quake in 1994.

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Thanks ProphetM. I appreciate your help.

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The single-story mall portion from this photo was demolished.
Ppl want that to happen to this other old shopping area in NoHo.


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Facebook page titled 'Remembering Laurel Plaza and Valley Plaza'


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Ppl want that to happen to this other old shopping area in NoHo.


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Facebook page titled 'Remembering Laurel Plaza and Valley Plaza'


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This area is visible in the top left of the old photo.
     
     
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I just happened upon this slide/photograph on eBay.

Seller's description:..No Date Airplane View Los Angeles California Pakon Slide BU-I


Do any of you slaves noirishers recognize which MAY CO. store this is?



eBay LINK


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I spent a ton of time at that May Co. with my mom when I was a kid - way back in the early '70s, though I can remember it like it was yesterday. One time, I asked her what “Co” meant, and she explained that it was short for Company. Looong time ago.

The second job I ever had, at age 15, was in the (now long-gone) Standard Shoe Store, the location of which I have marked with a star. I spent all the money I made that summer on a Rickenbacker bass:

     
     
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I spent all the money I made that summer on a Rickenbacker bass.
I'm sure your Mom enjoyed that!
     
     
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At least it wasn't a drum set.
     
     
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Going back a few years to re-air an unanswered mystery location:

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mystery location. (this one is going to be a difficult to solve). .*reaches for whip*. .

A young man, "Buss", poses for a photograph in 1929 Los Angeles.


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The reverse.



Let's take a closer look.



And as you can see there are signs along the embankment on the opposite side of the street. (as well as a 'No Parking' to the right of his left shoulder)

Is this an entrance to a bridge or, perhaps a ramp of some sort?


Go at it sleuths!
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For what it's worth, my own follow-ups to the posting advanced--correctly or otherwise--the gent being Elmer J. Bussell of (in 1929) 1030 W. 49th and of (in 1940) 6342 6th St., who was born around 1901. But I don't believe we ever figured out where he was in the photo.


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