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Old Posted Aug 11, 2025, 12:45 PM
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A requiem for L.A.’s lost, loved restaurants

Patt Morrison Columnist

Here we are again, mourning at yet more tombstones in Los Angeles’ culinary cemetery, the last resting place of restaurants.

The newest obituary is for the oldest restaurant in the city of L.A., Cole’s French Dip, in downtown. It opened in 1908, the year the first Model T rolled off Henry Ford’s assembly line. It’s a place that I suspect many Angelenos had not heard of until they heard it was closing, so Cole’s got a temporary deathbed reprieve because of the crush of people wanting a last — or first and last — meal there.

The Original Pantry Cafe, Cole’s younger sibling about a mile away, opened in 1924 and flourished on the strength of its we-never-close pledge. COVID-19 curtailed its hours, and the Pantry closed altogether this spring, two years after the death of its owner, former Mayor Richard Riordan. Its fare was stick-to-the-ribs and elsewhere kind of food that works wonders on a hangover, as did the coffee that was as thick as the meaty ceramic mugs the waiters kept filled.

Also on the death notice list: La Golondrina , opened in about 1930 in Olvera Street, in a brick building that was nearly 80 years old even then. It closed its double doors last year, doomed by money and legal troubles.

The Pacific Dining Car just west of downtown came up a year short of its centennial when it closed in the COVID-19 year of 2020. It was a hangout for politicians and power muckety-mucks. During the Democratic National Convention here in 2000, you could show up at 2 a.m. and see statesmen and dealmakers eating the signature baseball steak, or my favorite, Eggs Sardou. Any hope of reopening the landmark went up in flames in March, right after the Pantry closed.

California, and especially L.A., were out of the nation’s sight and mind for so long that we were left to cultivate our own notions of good food. The culinary mismatch between “here” and “back there” let the folks “back there” believe we shot our food on the hoof and ate it with bare hands. But our cosmopolitan eateries eventually created a singular “fusion,” with its own explosion into a thriving restaurant scene. Not all of our stars are onscreen; more than two dozen are in the Michelin firmament.

Everyone has a lost restaurant to mourn. I would lay flowers at the grave of Ago , a flossy Italian restaurant on Melrose Avenue in West Hollywood, gone in 2019. I weep for its vanished gnocchi, sublime as angel farts (note: This is metaphor. Are angels corporeal? Would they even have farts? I do not know).

Restaurants have a high mortality rate; generally more than 80% make it through the first year, and about half are still around after five years. Yet so much can derail them: fractured supply chains, staff blowups, quirks of locations and traffic, social media ambushes, even the unexpected, like COVID.

So survivors are remarkable, and originals even more so. It borders on the impossible to verify anything venerable as “the first,” but L.A.’s first restaurant was likely in the Bella Union Hotel, opened in downtown in 1850 in an even older building. The first freestanding restaurant may have been the “Old American,” opened maybe a year earlier, but it too eludes confirmation.

Hard to know what restaurant food was like in that long ago, but very likely beef, the region’s major food group, or mutton, with potatoes and onions and a palate cleanser of beer or wine or the local liquor, aguardiente. [A Bella Union newspaper ad 20 years later vaguely promised that its bill of fare “shall be inferior to none in the State.”]

I have my doubts that the Bella Union or even the Old American was L.A.’s first restaurant. Food was surely being cooked and served and sold in private houses and small shops and on street stands in ethnic enclaves under the Anglo-Angeleno radar. Eventually, such places did get “discovered,” and the local gentry might have bragged that they had just found the most delish little cafe hidden away in an edgy neighborhood.

In 1921, The Times suggested that daring tourists might try the food in “foreign quarters,” like “Chinatown’s alleys,” whose waiters were described in stereotypes. Italian restaurant-goers were advised to ditch steak and potatoes to try “authentic” Italian food like artichokes, and the “peculiarly seasoned tomato sauce.” Or they could join movie stars and sports heroes for original chili burgers at “Ptomaine Tommy’s” in Lincoln Heights, which started out in 1913 as a street lunch wagon.

Into the 20th century, some things Mexican were considered declasse, except in designated quaint settings like Olvera Street. Restaurants serving Mexican food to Anglo-Angelenos often styled themselves “Spanish.”

At Glendale’s renowned Casa Verdugo , the food was straight-up Mexican — tamales, enchiladas, burritos — but advertised as “Spanish” cuisine. El Cholo , on Western Avenue, just celebrated its 100th birthday as a “Spanish” cafe. There are tales of Angelenos who traveled to Spain and were astonished to find that Spanish food was not, in fact, tamales and enchiladas.

Cafeterias have gone retro chic now, but L.A.’s early cafeteria craze wasn’t ironic or hip. They served what working Angelenos needed: standard, middle-American comfort food at plausible prices — and, for nonworking Angelenos, sometimes no price at all.

Clifton’s , founded in the Depression year of 1931, once ran a chain of cafeterias arguably less notable for the food — beef dishes, fried chicken, Jell-O salads — than for the elaborate decor of religious dioramas, exotic South Seas vistas and redwood faux forests.

The founder, Clifford Clinton, was a good-government civic crusader, and his cafeterias’ policy was to let folks eat free if they couldn’t afford the tab. As a hungry young writer, Ray Bradbury made full use of that policy. What is left of this giant, Los Angeles’ unofficial kitchen? It now bears the name Clifton’s Republic, a weekend-only bar at Clifton’s old downtown address.

In the 18 decades since the Bella Union’s opened a kitchen, Angelenos never lost their beefsteak appetites, and 20th century steakhouses arose as haute cuisine , with steak places arrayed along La Cienega’s “Restaurant Row.”

In Studio City, Glendale, Palm Springs and Bakersfield, waiters at the Saddle and Sirloin restaurants handed diners a page of beef choices, and a few chicken and fish alternatives, printed on a die-cut menu embossed to look like a fancy gun holster.

On the far end of the grill sizzle was the vegetarian restaurant. It did not begin, as you might suppose, in the hipster 1960s. The Source , on Sunset Boulevard, was launched in 1969 by a Cincinnati-born guru who called himself Father Yod. Woody Allen made fun of the place and its vibe in “Annie Hall.” His character met Diane Keaton there and snottily ordered “alfalfa sprouts and mashed yeast.”

The food reform movement was a hit with Angelenos.

The Vegetarian Cafe, in downtown Los Angeles, hosted a July 1901 lunch meeting of the Women’s Christian Temperance Union. The menu: corn soup, beet salad, baked beans, unfermented grape juice, and sliced “protose” with lemon. Protose was a meat substitute of wheat gluten and peanuts, cooked up by the food reformer Dr. John Kellogg, the fellow whose name you know better from a line of sometimes quite sugary cereals.

In Hollywood, studios tended to lay claim to nearby restaurants almost as extensions of their own commissaries, with cocktail privileges. Paramount people adopted restaurants on Melrose: first Lucey’s, and later Lucy’s El Adobe, which together lasted a hundred years.

Lucey’s opened in 1922, and silent stars like Clara Bow showed up in limos and ordered fistfuls of caviar. Paramount artists painted the murals in the restaurant’s VIP room. Lucey’s headwaiter Don Avalier was reportedly “discovered” there, and screen-tested for a biopic of Rudolph Valentino. He didn’t get the starring role, but he did get other movie parts, often playing … a headwaiter.

This Lucey’s closed some time in the 1950s. In 1964, the other Lucy’s, the fabled Mexican restaurant, opened a little way away. It too was an actors’ hangout, but celebrated as the place where Gov. Jerry Brown and singer Linda Ronstadt met and launched their headliner romance. That Lucy’s closed in 2019, the year before COVID.

More than Sunset Boulevard or Hollywood Boulevard, Melrose Avenue was where the stars came out, and dined in. One of two Nickodell restaurants was nudged alongside Paramount. In 1928, it began selling affordable food to starving actors, and did so even after they were no longer starving.

In 1982, Nickodell’s steak sandwich with grilled onion and potatoes cost $6.95, a price you could hardly afford to duplicate at home, wrote Times food columnist Rose Dosti. Each day of the week offered a special: chicken cacciatore on Mondays, frankfurters and sauerkraut on Wednesdays, and so on. When it closed, in 1993, veteran TV actress Peggy Rea mourned its special dishes. “From here you go into the world of alfalfa sprouts.”

Our big, warm climate and our wide-open spaces made possible something that earned its own genre: mimetic architecture, whimsical buildings that look like something else, often the thing that they sell. The Brown Derby restaurant didn’t sell derbies, but the Tamale, on Whittier Boulevard in East L.A., sold tamales, and the trade of Randy’s Donuts in Inglewood is unmistakably doughnuts.

In 1927, the Buffalo Times gave us an eyeroll in print over an igloo-shaped restaurant with papier-mache icicles, a merry-go-round restaurant with revolving tables, a “bullpen” restaurant with a live bull and waiters dressed as matadors. And it singled out the Jail Cafe on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, where the El Cid restaurant now stands. The Jail Cafe set tables and chairs in “cells” for patrons served by waiters wearing trustee uniforms, presided over by a cashier dressed as a warden. When two masked men showed up there in March 1926, customers thought it was just part of the show — until the robbers fired their guns and relieved diners of about $500.

The cafe ship Cabrillo was a gigantic mimetic. Beginning in 1903, it was berthed in Venice, if you can say “berthed” about a vessel that wasn’t a real ship. Early on, and briefly, waiters were unfortunately tricked out in white wigs and satin knee breeches, a la Versailles-on-the-Venice-canals. The dishes and the prices invited a well-heeled clientele — Charlie Chaplin, Jack Dempsey, Sarah Bernhardt. Sand dabs and halibut, still edible and plentiful there, were held in a net slung under the hull and served moments later. If you preferred food with legs, there was roast pheasant and, of course, steak. The place was auctioned off down to its timbers in October 1946.

Germans once had a large presence in Los Angeles, with beer gardens, restaurants, churches, and a downtown club and sports center. But as happened elsewhere in the country, much of L.A.’s public German community went to ground after May 1915, when a German U-boat sank the British ocean liner Lusitania.

So it was surprising to see that when the Second World War came around, a Manhattan Beach restaurant named Little Bavaria kept its doors open. On June 8, 1942, the restaurant ran an ad in The Times touting its 80-cent home-cooked dinners. That same night, the feds raided the place, and subpoenaed its owner, a German-born naturalized citizen, and three employees. The feds said the place was possibly an “important listening post” for German-friendly ears, considering that it was a popular lunchtime destination for dozens of workers at nearby defense plants.

If by now you’re still hung up on first/oldest, I direct you to the oldest surviving restaurant in L.A. County: the Saugus Cafe . Best birth date estimate for this railroad cafe: 1886 or 1887, and its address is now in Santa Clarita, a town that didn’t even exist then, but which rallied to save the cafe during COVID.

Why the longevity? Because fusion, flank steak, fusilli, futomaki — tastes come and tastes go. But diners are forever.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2025, 3:58 PM
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Picking through the volumes of my book Notes on Old Los Angeles, and pondering: I'd guess that the earliest restaurants in L.A. were outgrowths of saloons and bars in the first few years after the Yankee onset. The saloon at Main St.'s Bella Union Hotel was commenced by William P. Reynolds in 1849; by 1852, it was "Under the management of A. Gibson, is now open for the accommodation of the public. The table supplied with all the niceties the country affords—and the bar with the best of liquors and cigars. Gibson & Hodges, Proprietors” (Los Angeles Star, 12/28/1852). Horace Bell mentions it, referring to the hotel in October, 1852, as "a one-story flat-roofed adobe, with a corral in the rear, extending to Los Angeles street, with the usual great Spanish portal."

The reason I give you the above quote with the corral is that I'm thinking that the Bella Union's restaurant may have been called the Star Restaurant, as I see the latter, which was on Main St., described in an ad in the Los Angeles Star (July 17, 1852) as "This well known and popular public house has been re-opened under the superintendence of the undersigned and during the coming season will be conducted in a manner that will sustain its former good name. Visitors from the upper country will find this house one of the most agreeable in town, as the rooms are large and airy, and the table such as cannot fail to please all who are fond of good living. A bar is connected with the establishment, where the best of refreshments can be obtained. A good corral is also at the service of boarders," all of which is consistent with the Bella Union (allowing for the puffery of advertising, that is; in truth, the accommodations were said by visitors to be wretched).

The Old American restaurant mentioned in the article seems to have been originally called the "American House," appears to have been housed in the Lafayette Hotel on Main St., and came to be called the Lafayette Restaurant in 1854: “Lafayette Restaurant. The old 'American House' has been splendidly refitted, and will be opened to-morrow under the above name. Regular boarders will be taken and can be accommodated with bed rooms. Meals at all hours, by bill of fare. Saloon for private parties. Families can be supplied at the shortest notice. Cakes of all kinds constantly on hand. Partridge, Rabbit and Chicken Pies. Alimentary preserves. The best the market affords will be constantly served up” (Los Angeles Star, April 22, 1854).

I find no references in my notes to restaurants per se as existing prior to 1852, and this includes pre-Yankee times. The explanation for that situation, in pre-Yankee times, is that the old Californios were open-handed and masters of hospitality: Those who came visiting the pueblo were likely to be arriving either for an extended-family visit (in which case they would eat with their kinfolk) or, occasionally, on business (in which case they would eat with the client they were calling upon). When all else would fail in those times, the table at Mission San Gabriel was always available.
     
     
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Thanks for sharing that article, Lwize. It seems among all those restaurants mentioned, I have only eaten at the first- and last-mentioned - Cole's and the Saugus Cafe. Although I did also eat at Clifton's when it reopened a few years ago, not quite original but it did have an all too brief reincarnation as a cafeteria before it dwindled to a weekend bar.
     
     
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Very interesting conversation Lwize and odinthor. I learned alot!

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Woo Hoo! ..A Tueday afternoon mystery location.

Somewhat similar to the slides from a couple of days, except this slide shows a newly constructed mid-century home and the date is a year later than the earler slides. . .this one being 1959.



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Hmmm. . .are there any clues to glean?




This! (although it's somewhat difficult to read)






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The house is still there albeit a bit modified.

Here is the GSV:https://maps.app.goo.gl/KEBqA7ZU3jX4p5t68

     
     
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Hideous remodel.
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The house is still there albeit a bit modified.

Here is the GSV:https://maps.app.goo.gl/KEBqA7ZU3jX4p5t68

This Thing?







I'd like to say you're wrong but the fireplace/chimney are exactly in the same place.



Thanks for your help, knapford. ..I appreciate it. ..(even if it was. .um. .rather bad news)

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I couldn't help but noticed this mother walking down Bundy with her twin daughters.




It's good to see the twins finally getting some fresh air.


IMDB

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Hey Noirishers, this slide is currently on eBay

The seller's description is - "Vintage 1940's 35MM Slide Los Angeles Garbage truck."


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I believe the writing on the door says..*squints eyes*..Rancho(?) Los Angeles.



From the slide.

Do you think this is a what all the city's garbage trucks looked like or is it an anomaly? ..(it's kind of 'junky' looking - even for a garage truck)



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Rancho Los Amigos?

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Hey Noirishers, this slide is currently on eBay

The seller's description is - "Vintage 1940's 35MM Slide Los Angeles Garbage truck."


eBay

I believe the writing on the door says..*squints eyes*..Rancho(?) Los Angeles.



From the slide.

Do you think this is a what all the city's garbage trucks looked like or is it an anomaly? ..(it's kind of 'junky' looking - even for a garage truck)

I think the marking is "Rancho Los Amigos", so maybe it was used on one of the campuses, not as a City truck.
     
     
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I couldn't help but noticed this mother walking down Bundy with her twin daughters.




It's good to see the twins are finally getting some fresh air.


IMDB

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Someone needs to give that twin a leg up!
     
     
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Mystery Building

Does this structure look familiar to anyone?


From (unnumbered) ad pages at back of the 1904 https://books.google.com/books?id=AFRDAQ...IHVAeL2MQ6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false

     
     
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I think the marking is "Rancho Los Amigos", so maybe it was used on one of the campuses, not as a City truck.
"Rancho Los Amigos--that's what the L.A. County Poor Farm was renamed at some point. The nature of its operation has changed, but it still exists: Rancho Los Amigos." --odinthor

Thanks for your help, Engineeral. I appreciate it.



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Mystery Building

Does this structure look familiar to anyone?


From (unnumbered) ad pages at back of the 1904 https://books.google.com/books?id=AFRDAQ...IHVAeL2MQ6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false

For a moment, I thought that was H. H. Holmes' “Murder Castle”!


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Your second photograph really does look like odinthor's mystery building.


I read this book about H.H. Holmes' murder spree at the 1893 fair and it's very good.



. . .if anyone's interested in serial killers.

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Construction sign found on eBay.



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Mystery Building

Does this structure look familiar to anyone?


From (unnumbered) ad pages at back of the 1904 https://books.google.com/books?id=AFRDAQ...IHVAeL2MQ6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false

That appears to be the SEC of 6th and Hope. Here's a photo that purports to be a 1905 view of that intersection; we're mainly looking
east on 6th (the direction of the water), with the arched entrance to the hotel on Hope at the far right edge:



00019277 @ LAPL


Here's the 1906 Sanborn showing that structure, 604-10 S. Hope:



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Fantastic, FW--thanks!



Taking the Sanborn address for where the entrance is, its "official" address was 604 S. Hope. By 1912, that would be the Valdemar Hotel (1912 CD). In 1890, that had been the address of the residence of a widow, one Mrs. C.V. Duque, according to the Los Angeles Times of March 7, 1890, reporting on the occasion of her having had jewelry stolen, a crime in which two detectives formerly of the LAPD were involved. By 1893, Widow Duque had moved to 1030 S. Hope, so perhaps the structure in my pic was built around 1892.

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I read this book about H.H. Holmes' murder spree at the 1893 fair and it's very good.


. . .if anyone's interested in serial killers.
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If you're interested, the TV series TIMELESS did an episode about this.
Maybe other places, but it can be streamed on Prime and Apple.
Season 1 Ep. 11 - The World's Columbian Exposition
     
     
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