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Old Posted May 7, 2025, 1:07 AM
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I walked past the smaller retail unit under the Wellington building adjacent to Abuelitas. It no longer had the for lease sign in the window, and the windows themselves were covered up. I didn't see any indication of what was going on there, but I imagine we should expect something soon.

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My understanding from some folks in the community is that it will be a constituency office
From a distance, I could see a David Hickey sign in the window today, so I think you are correct. I think it is a good spot for him.
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I have mixed feelings about these plans. They seem to be moving the place further and further away from being a "Market" and more towards being a collection of takeout food venders mixed with souvenir stands. Taking so much space for food court seating in the main hall seems be waving the white flag and acknowledging that they simply can't fill the space with vendors.

OTOH, the model that is there now hardly seems to be working anymore so......
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Old Posted May 9, 2025, 12:05 PM
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I have mixed feelings about these plans. They seem to be moving the place further and further away from being a "Market" and more towards being a collection of takeout food venders mixed with souvenir stands. Taking so much space for food court seating in the main hall seems be waving the white flag and acknowledging that they simply can't fill the space with vendors.

OTOH, the model that is there now hardly seems to be working anymore so......
I don't actually mind the two aisle plan, but the seating is excessive. Something that can be remedied if it doesn't work.

Souvenir stands are what they want gone, mostly. Food and grocery is the goal. H&S just renewed their lease, which is nice. Any idea about Java Moose returning?

Adding a standard POS system seems to be in the works, which is minor but pleasant.
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Old Posted May 9, 2025, 3:01 PM
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I don't actually mind the two aisle plan, but the seating is excessive. Something that can be remedied if it doesn't work.

Souvenir stands are what they want gone, mostly. Food and grocery is the goal. H&S just renewed their lease, which is nice. Any idea about Java Moose returning?

Adding a standard POS system seems to be in the works, which is minor but pleasant.
What would you envision being added to enhance the food and grocery offering? Competing vendors with similar products?

Currently we have -
  • Meats & Cheese
  • Seafood
  • Baked Goods
  • Fruits & Vegetables + some staples/misc.

I don't really know what is going on with Java Moose, there was communication from the city that it was going ahead last summer, and it's been radio silence ever since.

This point from the presentation implies they are exploring a raised mezzanine above where Java Moose would be going.

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2.6 Design and cost analysis of New Mezzanine area at south end of the Market.
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Old Posted May 9, 2025, 3:13 PM
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What would you envision being added to enhance the food and grocery offering? Competing vendors with similar products?

Currently we have -
  • Meats & Cheese
  • Seafood
  • Baked Goods
  • Fruits & Vegetables + some staples/misc.

I don't really know what is going on with Java Moose, there was communication from the city that it was going ahead last summer, and it's been radio silence ever since.

This point from the presentation implies they are exploring a raised mezzanine above where Java Moose would be going.
Heard from a market vendor this morning that Java Moose had just recently decided that they would not be returning.
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Old Posted May 9, 2025, 3:16 PM
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Heard from a market vendor this morning that Java Moose had just recently decided that they would not be returning.
That is disappointing but understandable. Perhaps another Coffee chain would be interested in the future.

Also note that Uncorked is still inactive and has been since the new year, after initially saying they were taking the month of January off. If they don't return in the next few weeks as tourism picks up, I think they are done.
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That is disappointing but understandable. Perhaps another Coffee chain would be interested in the future.

Also note that Uncorked is still inactive and has been since the new year, after initially saying they were taking the month of January off. If they don't return in the next few weeks as tourism picks up, I think they are done.

I don't know if a traditional coffee chain would be a good fit for the market. Java Moose fit because they were very small and local. Maybe The Green Grocer will expand his Java Moose offerings?

Same source told me Moosehead was looking at the Uncorked space as a sort of mini Tap Room/merchandise sales point. If that's true sounds like Uncorked is done.
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IDEA Centre Secures Home in Brunswick Square

https://sjcommercialre.com/2025/05/12/idea-centre-secures-home-in-brunswick-square/

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"1 Germain Street, Saint John, NB (Brunswick Square) — The IDEA Centre, an innovative high school co-op style program, has signed a lease for new dedicated office space in Brunswick Square, marking an exciting new chapter for the successful initiative.

The IDEA Centre (which stands for Innovation, Development, Entrepreneurship and Action) provides students with a dynamic learning experience that blends education with real-world problem-solving and entrepreneurial thinking. Participating students gather in the space for two periods a day throughout the semester, earning two or three course credits upon completion. The program is delivered in partnership with Kaleidoscope Social Impact. “Many of our students walk from the uptown high schools, so being located uptown was a priority for us,” said Michele Lodge, co-lead for the program. “IDEA Centre has been a huge success over the last several years and we’re thrilled to take this next step in the program’s evolution.”

With tight timelines, the program acted quickly to secure new space and found a willing partner in Ravelin Properties. “We’re grateful to have found a location that meets our needs so well, and to have worked with partners who understand the importance of what we’re doing for youth in this city,” said Lodge.

Stephanie Turner and Brock Turner of Cushman & Wakefield Atlantic represented Ravelin Properties in the deal. “This is the first office lease signed since taking on the listing a few weeks ago,” said Stephanie Turner. “We’re excited to share more great news about Brunswick Square.”

The lease marks another positive development for Brunswick Square as it continues to reposition itself as a vibrant, multi-use hub in uptown Saint John.

Need office space? It’s time to take another look at Brunswick Square!"
Also, a new interview on Infromation Morning about new plans for Brunswick Square: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-2...hn/clip/16145670-a-plan-brunswick-square

Mentioned in the interview is a couple more tenants in discussions/planning. One is food related and the other is traditional retail.

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IDEA Centre Secures Home in Brunswick Square

https://sjcommercialre.com/2025/05/12/idea-centre-secures-home-in-brunswick-square/



Also, a new interview on Infromation Morning about new plans for Brunswick Square: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-2...hn/clip/16145670-a-plan-brunswick-square

Mentioned in the interview is a couple more tenants in discussions/planning. One is food related and the other is traditional retail.
Just listened to the interview... hmm, not much of a plan, but it's undoubtedly a very, very tough job she's been given. Still, only focussing on smaller tenants, not even worrying about trying to fill the third floor, and not even trying to find a grocery store brand to open up shop... doesn't sound great. Multiple floors of empty office space. yikes.

I think Brunswick Square really needs to be reimagined and redesigned the from the ground floor up, both the mall and the office tower. But, to do that, they'd probably need to secure some major government funding. I think the both the federal and provincial governments could be receptive to funding a major re-development at Brunswick square, especially if a residential conversion/expansion of the tower was a major part of that plan.

If revitalizing Brunswick Square is, in fact, the developmental lynchpin for sustained development in the Uptown core as some claim it to be, then serious funding consideration and partnerships should be considered by all three levels of government, to support and execute an ambitious plan that revitalizes and reimagines Brunswick Square from the ground up.
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I don't know if a traditional coffee chain would be a good fit for the market. Java Moose fit because they were very small and local. Maybe The Green Grocer will expand his Java Moose offerings?

Same source told me Moosehead was looking at the Uncorked space as a sort of mini Tap Room/merchandise sales point. If that's true sounds like Uncorked is done.
I have heard good things about Moosehead's taproom on the west side, but it's just not in a spot that is convenient to me. I think they would be a good replacement if things have gone south for Uncorked.
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I have heard good things about Moosehead's taproom on the west side, but it's just not in a spot that is convenient to me. I think they would be a good replacement if things have gone south for Uncorked.
Returning or not, Uncorked has to get their shipping container off of Germain Street. It's an eyesore.
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Returning or not, Uncorked has to get their shipping container off of Germain Street. It's an eyesore.
Unfortunately, if the company is in fact defunct it may be abandoned.
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Unfortunately, if the company is in fact defunct it may be abandoned.
Then the city should shell out a couple hundred bucks and tow it away. Send the owners the bill or sell the thing. It shouldn't take a complex process to remove it.
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Then the city should shell out a couple hundred bucks and tow it away. Send the owners the bill or sell the thing. It shouldn't take a complex process to remove it.
^This
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TJ reporting police issued a shelter in place order for uptown after shooting in King Sq this AM King St East Blocked off with heavy police presence. Schools on lockdown.

https://tj.news/saint-john-south/public-...ace-due-to-uptown-shooting-investigation

The downside to an uptown lifestyle......

Oh well, looking on the bright side, at least it wasn't a 3 cruise ship day.

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Returning or not, Uncorked has to get their shipping container off of Germain Street. It's an eyesore.
Per city staff: "I have confirmed that the container belongs to the city, not the Uncorked owners. This will again be a rental property."
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Per city staff: "I have confirmed that the container belongs to the city, not the Uncorked owners. This will again be a rental property."
Maybe they can repurpose it in a green zone.
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The Area 506 Waterfront Container Village is now open for the 2025 season. https://www.area506.ca/container-village
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The Area 506 Waterfront Container Village is now open for the 2025 season. https://www.area506.ca/container-village
Looking at the vendor list, there is a lot of continuity from last year, which shows that they must be doing reliable business. Beavertails is a weakness of mine and my personal favourite, along with the Taco truck.

I have noticed Sweet Vanilla at almost every local market in the last few years, such as Queen's Square and Kingston. I wouldn't be surprised if they opened a year-round retail location at some point, similar to Sweetum's Patisserie.

I also noticed Euphora Bar & Restaurant is present this year. A quick Google tells me they are Moncton-based. Has anyone eaten there before, and is it worth a visit?
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