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You mean the report you didn't link to? (but I did)

You mean the report you didn't read? (but I did)

Maybe follow the link below and carefully read it and consider what it says.

Its not what you think.

https://horizons.service.canada.ca/en/2025/01/10/future-lives-social-mobility/index.shtml
Hecate's talking points come from some alt-right youtuber ranting about "the libs", I guarantee it. The report is brief and to the point.
     
     
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If rents were high and vacancy was low, yes. Supply/Demand is not demand for purchasing a home, it's demand for a roof over your head.
Rents wouldn't be high, because rents are a function of house prices.

Rent prices lag house prices. If house prices rise, homeowners are chased out of the ownership market, opting to rent, driving up rent prices. Additionally, higher capital costs for landlords mean they increase rents. This doesn't happen instantly with a rise in house prices. It lags. In years. Due to 1yr leases, rent controls, and the slow moving nature of the RE market.

We don't want renters. We want people to own their own homes (should they choose to).
     
     
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You should suspend yourself for repeatedly bring it up… over and over again
Nah, that was you.

Complete with photos too. Great sleuthing.
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Hecate's talking points come from some alt-right youtuber ranting about "the libs", I guarantee it. The report is brief and to the point.
If we don’t do anything about this….

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-soci...visory-council/reports/2024-annual.html#

Which we basically don’t, which scenario do you think mentioned in the privy council report is most likely going to play out.
     
     
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Nah, that was you.

Complete with photos too. Great sleuthing.
Yes I posted links to legitimate photographs taken in 2013… why does that bother you?
     
     
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If we don’t do anything about this….

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-soci...visory-council/reports/2024-annual.html#

Which we basically don’t, which scenario do you think mentioned in the privy council report is most likely going to play out.
Now, this is actually a thoughtful and comprehensive report.

But I want you to explain to me what in the Conservative Platform aligns with this paragraph:

We heard of urgent needs to increase both minimum wages and social assistance rates to reduce poverty and increase dignity. People shared that because wages are not scaled to inflation, even people who are working full-time, and some who have multiple jobs, live in poverty. We heard throughout the country that government supports at all levels are inadequate and are often well below Canada's Official Poverty Line. Because of this, many people who rely exclusively on government benefits live in poverty by design.

Because I read the Conservative platform and don't remember seeing anything about either of those.

Now, if you want to chide Liberals for omitting such discussion, I'm fine with that. But your advcating that Team Blue is preferred. On what basis?
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Rents wouldn't be high, because rents are a function of house prices.
No they aren't. Rents are a function of demand for shelter.


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Rent prices lag house prices. If house prices rise, homeowners are chased out of the ownership market, opting to rent, driving up rent prices. Additionally, higher capital costs for landlords mean they increase rents. This doesn't happen instantly with a rise in house prices. It lags. In years. Due to 1yr leases, rent controls, and the slow moving nature of the RE market.

We don't want renters. We want people to own their own homes (should they choose to).
No you have this all backwards.

Landlords don't get to increase rents, they take what the market (renters) can offer them. Rents rise because places are scarce (lack of housing) and people need a place to live. A larger vacancy rate leads to landlords lowering rents to entice people to rent. People can afford their own place instead of needing room mates to afford rent for example.

"We don't want renters" is a ridiculous take. People choose different ways to live because of lifestyle, finances, and other reasons. Get your head out of your ass.

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 3:12 PM
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Which we basically don’t, which scenario do you think mentioned in the privy council report is most likely going to play out.
     
     
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The CPC's view is that once Canada is de-wokified, everybody will prosper.
     
     
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The CPC's view is that once Canada is de-wokified, everybody will prosper.
As opposed to the liberals policy of stagnating wages, increasing foodbank lines and rising housing costs.
     
     
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The CPC's view is that once Canada is de-wokified, everybody will prosper.
In fairness their claim isn't just eliminating wokeness but also regulations and other barriers to development especially in the resource sector. And lowering the tax burden along with less discussed lowering spending. The wokeness is a minor economic drag compared to the other two planks.
     
     
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Rents rise because places are scarce (lack of housing) and people need a place to live.
So food prices rose because of a food shortage?

Build more farms!
     
     
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So food prices rose because of a food shortage?

Build more farms!
Farms first!
Remove the gatekeepers!
Take back control of our land!
Put more earth in the hands of the farmers!
Bring it home!

Before when we had carbon pricing we were told by removing it the food prices would go down... well I haven't noticed any change.

Before when we had Justin Trudeau we were told by removing him there would be no more Justinflation... well I haven't noticed any change.

The CPC seems to not know what they are talking about or promising.
     
     
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In fairness their claim isn't just eliminating wokeness but also regulations and other barriers to development especially in the resource sector. And lowering the tax burden along with less discussed lowering spending. The wokeness is a minor economic drag compared to the other two planks.
What does "eliminating wokeness" even mean? It's such an empty phrase, just come out and say "we don't want brown people or women to be in positions of power" instead.
     
     
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As opposed to the liberals policy of stagnating wages, increasing foodbank lines and rising housing costs.
Would you please learn to answer actual questions addressed to you.

You just repeat yourself endlessly.
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Houses are priced in dollars.
Dollars are priced in houses.

If you increase the supply of houses, its price falls in terms of dollars.
If you increase the supply of dollars, its price falls in terms of houses.

That is, each dollar buys less house.

An increase in the supply of dollars is why ALL Canadian prices are up.
     
     
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So food prices rose because of a food shortage?

Build more farms!
Supply and Demand works, whether you want it to or not.
     
     
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Supply and Demand works, whether you want it to or not.
Supply and demand laws apply to the supply of currency too. Which you cannot seem to understand.
     
     
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This thread was informative and interesting a couple of weeks ago.

Now every morning when I skim it, it's...

     
     
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Supply and demand laws apply to the supply of currency too. Which you cannot seem to understand.
You bitcoin bros are all inflation obsessed. It's not the answer to everything. To the point: we need more housing.
     
     
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