Canadian Federal Election - Page 300

MonctonRad · #**5981** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 12:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Trump and Pierre's allies - aka Jones, Modi, Musk, O'Leary, Peterson, Putin, Rogan, Shapiro, Vance, etc. have told him to be quiet because his buddy Pierre won't win if he keeps at it...

Quite a rogues gallery of PP supporters you have there!!! I think you forgot Vlad the Impaler and Hannibal Lecter.

I don't think you really need to embellish this much to express your preference of Carney over PP.

MolsonExport · #**5982** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 12:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

One of PeePee’s proud accomplishments from the Harper era:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIOq_6JA0nL/?igsh=MThpYTRpYXprYW5tbw==

MolsonExport · #**5983** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 12:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gresto

Absolute rubbish, except for the part about comparing Polinever to Dump. Insufferable as Polyester is to many Canadians, Dump is many orders of magnitude more repugnant a specimen of humanity at its worst.
If Sanders were a Canadian politician - and how I wish he had been (he's too old now) - he would unquestionably be running for the NDP, not the PPC, as you suggest. The man has been a dedicated progressive for six decades. Even Singh is not a self-professed democratic socialist, nor were Mulcair, Layton, or McDonough.
Biden and Harris would in all likelihood be Liberals if they were Canadian, or perhaps Red Tories. It is not fruitful to compare political realities in the U.S. to those in Canada when assessing how liberal or conservative American or Canadian pols are. You work with what you have, not with what you wish you had.

Thanks for injecting some sanity.

Marshsparrow · #**5984** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 12:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Quite a rogues gallery of PP supporters you have there!!! I think you forgot Vlad the Impaler and Hannibal Lecter.

I don't think you really need to embellish this much to express your preference of Carney over PP.

I forgot to include Mohammed who was last seen at Ottawa airport missing his passport to who knows where... we never found him and Pierre never followed-up or further helped.

In other news the Green Party was booted from the debates - I think this was a fair decision because the PPC was also excluded.

Taeolas · #**5985** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 1:16 PM**

CBC Article on the Green party being removed

A bit disappointing, but I agree with the decision. The commission set some very clear criteria for participating in the debates, and the Green party clearly anticipated being able to meet them.

The unprecedented collapse in their (and NDP and BQ) support may have caught them by surprise, but they should still have been able to scrounge up enough candidates at least. That they didn't manage at least that is entirely on them really.

Yoinking them out now that they officially don't have enough candidates does make sense. Though the commission should probably have made it official a week or so ago, when the candidate lists were finalized.

All in all, for an election that Helen Keller could have seen coming from last year, it feels like everyone was woefully underprepared for this campaign. The CPC I can understand being caught flatfooted by the LPC Leader change, and not being able to pivot in time.

But the other parties and Elections Canada, all could see the writing on the wall; they should have been lining their ducks up since last fall to be ready to go at a moments notice. Getting your candidates ready to go is just Campaigning 101.

FrankieFlowerpot · #**5986** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 2:28 PM**

Innovative - LPC up 5
Leger - LPC up 5
Nanos - LPC up 8

Latest polls in the last 12 hours

MonctonRad · #**5987** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 2:39 PM**

Latest CBC Poll Tracker:

LPC - 43.6%, 197 seats
CPC - 37.8%, 120 seats
BLQ - 5.5%, 20 seats
NDP - 8.4%, 5 seats
GRN - 2.3%, 1 seat
PPC - 1.6%, 0 seats

Some further bleeding of support from Carney, but, PP is not benefitting. It appears the drift is to the BLQ, NDP and GRN.

Still a comfortable Liberal majority government is predicted. The French language debate is tonight. This is the singular most important event of the election campaign. Will Carney's French skills be up to snuff? Will Carney be able to hold his temper??? If he survives this, then it should be clear sailing through to election day.

I plan to vote in the advance poll on Friday. My mind is firmly made up. We need an adult in control of government at this time of existential crisis for the Canadian state. There is only one adult in the room at present (although I have always had a soft spot for Blanchett, despite the fact he is a separatist and isn't running any candidates hors Quebec).

Mark Carney is the man. He is the man any thinking Progressive Conservative should support. PP is too much of of a Maple MAGA lite convoy supporter for my tastes.

Marshsparrow · #**5988** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 2:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Latest CBC Poll Tracker:

LPC - 43.6%, 197 seats
CPC - 37.8%, 120 seats
BLQ - 5.5%, 20 seats
NDP - 8.4%, 5 seats
GRN - 2.3%, 1 seat
PPC - 1.6%, 0 seats

Some further bleeding of support from Carney, but, PP is not benefitting. It appears the drift is to the BLQ, NDP and GRN.

Still a comfortable Liberal majority government is predicted. The French language debate is tonight. This is the singular most important event of the election campaign. Will Carney's French skills be up to snuff? Will Carney be able to hold his temper??? If he survives this, then it should be clear sailing through to election day.

I plan to vote in the advance poll on Friday. My mind is firmly made up. We need an adult in control of government at this time of existential crisis for the Canadian state. There is only one adult in the room at present (although I have always had a soft spot for Blanchett, despite the fact he is a separatist and isn't running any candidates hors Quebec).

Mark Carney is the man. He is the man any thinking Progressive Conservative should support. PP is too much of of a Maple MAGA lite convoy supporter for my tastes.

I think debates will be important but the viewership #s should also give us a hint... it will be a pile-on at Carney. He needs to appear PM like.

Voter turnout for advanced I think will be another indicator - I expect over an easter long weekend it to be high.

I don't think there is anything to save the BQ and NDP at this moment.

YOWetal · #**5989** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

I think debates will be important but the viewership #s should also give us a hint... it will be a pile-on at Carney. He needs to appear PM like.

Voter turnout for advanced I think will be another indicator - I expect over an easter long weekend it to be high.

I don't think there is anything to save the BQ and NDP at this moment.

NDP for sure but never count the Bloc out. They've made come backs before.

Taeolas · #**5990** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:02 PM**

Advance poll turnout will be tricky to assess I think. On the one hand, the polls are on Easter weekend (opening on Good Friday). So might that depress turnout as people are doing other things?

Or might it increase turnout as they may not have work so they're free to go to the polls (especially if they get fired up from the debates the night before).

My mind is certainly made up at this point, and I will vote. When I vote, I'm not sure. I haven't even checked my mail to see if my voter card is there yet. But I will be heard.

hipster duck · #**5991** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Trump and Pierre's allies - aka Jones, Modi, Musk, O'Leary, Peterson, Putin, Rogan, Shapiro, Vance, etc. have told him to be quiet because his buddy Pierre won't win if he keeps at it...

It might just be me, but I doubt that Narendra Modi is picking up the phone and calling Donald Trump about how he could influence the Canadian election.

MonctonRad · #**5992** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by hipster duck

It might just be me, but I doubt that Narendra Modi is picking up the phone and calling Donald Trump about how he could influence the Canadian election.

I think Marshsparrow was one of the Liberal operatives who bragged too much about planting fake MAGA buttons at the CPC event. He occasionally gets a little over-enthusiastic,

travis3000 · #**5993** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:14 PM**

Leger poll surveyed 3000 people including 1000 in Ontario. Big sample size.

LPC only has a 7 point lead in ON. That's small. They are also losing BC by 4 points. So the lead isn't iron clad yet.

If the debates go bad for Carney, he's going to be fighting for a minority government if Leger is right.

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Counter point: Kory Teneycke (Fords campaign manager) was on The Curse Of Politics today and said his internal polling of the last 5 days for Ontario which has 2000+ sample size has the LPC leading 10-15 points in every part of the province including the 905, Eastern ON, and SW Ontario.

travis3000 · #**5994** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:22 PM**

Largest sample (1300+) of Atlantic Canada yet from Narrative Research

LPC= 65
CPC= 26
NDP= 8

https://narrativeresearch.ca/the-liberal-party-holds-a-commanding-lead-across-atlantic-canada/

kwoldtimer · #**5995** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I think Marshsparrow was one of the Liberal operatives who bragged too much about planting fake MAGA buttons at the CPC event. He occasionally gets a little over-enthusiastic,

"Operatives"? More like sophomoric pol-bros.

Dengler Avenue · #**5996** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Leger poll surveyed 3000 people including 1000 in Ontario. Big sample size.

LPC only has a 7 point lead in ON. That's small. They are also losing BC by 4 points. So the lead isn't iron clad yet.

If the debates go bad for Carney, he's going to be fighting for a minority government if Leger is right.

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Counter point: Kory Teneycke (Fords campaign manager) was on The Curse Of Politics today and said his internal polling of the last 5 days for Ontario which has 2000+ sample size has the LPC leading 10-15 points in every part of the province including the 905, Eastern ON, and SW Ontario.

At this point, I’m wondering whether someone in ONPC is eyeing to be the next CPC leader.

Il sera intéressant si une franco-ontarienne devient le chef du Parti Conservateur du Canada.

NotToScale · #**5997** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

EXCELLENT point!!

its not

MonctonRad · #**5998** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Il sera intéressant si une franco-ontarienne devient le chef du Parti Conservateur du Canada.

Do you have someone in mind???

Dengler Avenue · #**5999** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Do you have someone in mind???

Good catch. Yea I was thinking Caroline Mulroney.

WarrenC12 · #**6000** Posted **Apr 16, 2025, 3:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by elly63

As a person who came from a big family with one working parent and car, I learned from an early age that money can be saved.

With all due respect, that's from another era.

I grew up in a single parent home. I know what it's like to scrape by and not be able to save anything. Eating no-name bargain food.

I saved a lot of money relative to my income in my youth by scraping by and invested wisely (and luckily).

Of course it's possible, it's just not the typical experience.