Canadian Federal Election - Page 218

Truenorth00 · #**4341** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

You are complaining the Conservatives are not showing a strategy to disengage with the US and your counterexample is....Liberal rhetoric...which may not be worth much.

This is the 2020s. Politics is about vibes remember?

Since voters decided that policy doesn't matter, this is how it works. To be clear, I would prefer that elections are contested on policy. But clearly that is not where the vast majority of Canadians are. And that was my point. A good chunk of the public aren't feeling what Poilievre is selling.

missing_middle · #**4342** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

That would be the start of the new relationship, no? Details to be negotiated.

Without details it's impossible to know what it means or if it would even differ to anything the Conservatives would do.

BlackDog204 · #**4343** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

This didn't become a story in Canada. Most people here are smart enough to realize that if plagiarism had actually taken place that Carney wouldn't have gotten in trouble and not received the degree that he did. Of course Trump and Maple MAGA supporters are mainly uneducated and buy what that article claims.

The sub-headline calling Carney an "open critic" of Trump made me laugh. And of course the comments are quite insane and inaccurate. "Carney is a communist" and stuff like that.

This is one of the key differences between Canadian and American culture. FOX News may be #1 in the United States, but back in 2011, Sun News Network tried to create "FOX News North." It failed miserably, and the numbers were lower than anything ever recorded on Canadian TV. Keep in mind, this is the same network that had to pay out nearly $800 million, to settle the false story regarding Dominion Voting Systems being rigged.

BlackDog204 · #**4344** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Breakdown of Mainstreet Poll: 181 seats (LPC majority)

Breakdown of Abacus Poll: 165 seats (strong LPC minority), plus their likely voter model has LPC +2

Also, Nanos is out this morning... LPC +5 (LPC majority)

Wow. This is a massive jump for the Liberals. The poster who claimed that the Conservatives were pulling even, and about to take the lead again, may want to delete his post...lol.

missing_middle · #**4345** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

This is one of the key differences between Canadian and American culture. FOX News may be #1 in the United States, but back in 2011, Sun News Network tried to create "FOX News North." It failed miserably, and the numbers were lower than anything ever recorded on Canadian TV. Keep in mind, this is the same network that had to pay out nearly $800 million, to settle the false story regarding Dominion Voting Systems being rigged.

Tbf the CRTC acts as a bit of a "Kingmaker" with this stuff...

It can essentially platform or deplatform outlets to varying degrees.

kwoldtimer · #**4346** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

Without details it's impossible to know what it means or if it would even differ to anything the Conservatives would do.

Pretty much the norm for Canadian election campaigns, no? Although in this case it is hard to argue with Carney that you don't reveal you positions before negotiations even begin.

BlackDog204 · #**4347** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

New CBC Poll Tracker out today. Things getting gloomier for PP:

LPC - 41.2%, 194 seats
CPC - 37.8%, 125 seats
BLQ - 5.8%, 20 seats
NDP - 9.1%, 3 seats
GRN - 2.8%, 1 seat
PPC - 2.3%, 0 seats

Liberal plurality increases by four seats from yesterday, mostly at the expence of the Bloc (with one seat from the NDP).

For the life of me, I cannot believe the Bloc leader brought up separation at a time like this. Has he not been paying attention to Alberta, and how badly Smith is sinking the Conservatives in areas outside of ALberta?

BlackDog204 · #**4348** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

Tbf the CRTC acts as a bit of a "Kingmaker" with this stuff...

It can essentially platform or deplatform outlets to varying degrees.

Who are you trying to fool? It had nothing to do with the CRTC. They were granted a licence, failed miserably, and pulled the plug on the channel in 2015. The channel lost over $50 million, was poorly run, and highly dysfunctional. Nobody watched it.

YOWetal · #**4349** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Wow. This is a massive jump for the Liberals. The poster who claimed that the Conservatives were pulling even, and about to take the lead again, may want to delete his post...lol.

There was no jump nor was there a previous fall. Different pollsters different methodologies. Abacus controls for previous self reported voting. This avoids what may be happening where Liberal voters or more likely to reply to polls. But it also may skews things as people forget how they voted last time so they say they voted Liberal when they really voted NDP. Thus NDP number is higher as the people who admit they voted NDP in 2019 are more likely still supporters.

Truenorth00 · #**4350** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Wow. This is a massive jump for the Liberals. The poster who claimed that the Conservatives were pulling even, and about to take the lead again, may want to delete his post...lol.

I personally won't buy any numbers till after the debates. Especially the French one.

Truenorth00 · #**4351** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

Tbf the CRTC acts as a bit of a "Kingmaker" with this stuff...

It can essentially platform or deplatform outlets to varying degrees.

I'm curious what you think should be allowed. Cause I don't think we owe open access to networks pushing propaganda. And honestly, I put Fox News on the same level as Russia Today when it comes to "alternative facts". But even those networks were allowed in to Canada. They just couldn't make a business case. So what gatekeeping are you referring to?

travis3000 · #**4352** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I personally won't buy any numbers till after the debates. Especially the French one.

Yeah the election day itself is still 4 weeks away, lots can happen. Pay close attention to the polling around Easter weekend. That is when advance voting begins. Hard to believe the first votes will be cast in only 19 days.

missing_middle · #**4353** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Who are you trying to fool? It had nothing to do with the CRTC. They were granted a licence, failed miserably, and pulled the plug on the channel in 2015. The channel lost over $50 million, was poorly run, and highly dysfunctional. Nobody watched it.

I mean one losses a billion dollars and still gets mandatory carriage from the CRTC...

Truenorth00 · #**4354** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Who are you trying to fool? It had nothing to do with the CRTC. They were granted a licence, failed miserably, and pulled the plug on the channel in 2015. The channel lost over $50 million, was poorly run, and highly dysfunctional. Nobody watched it.

Everything is a conspiracy. Including the public just not liking their favourite networks. It's exhausting.

savevp · #**4355** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 2:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

I mean one losses a billion dollars and still gets mandatory carriage from the CRTC...

Sun News could have lost ten billion and CRTC would have continued carrying them. But Sun couldn't afford it. If you can't understand this and must persist in blaming the government for the failure of your chosen news channel, you probably aren't following real world news anyway.

missing_middle · #**4356** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by savevp

Sun News could have lost ten billion and CRTC would have continued carrying them. But Sun couldn't afford it. If you can't understand this and must persist in blaming the government for the failure of your chosen news channel, you probably aren't following real world news anyway.

CRTC decides whether a channel is considered mandatory for every cable package or not.

Again it determines the level of platforming a channel gets.

MonctonRad · #**4357** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

CRTC decides whether a channel is considered mandatory for every cable package or not.

Again it determines the level of platforming a channel gets.

So, you think the CBC, our national public broadcaster, paid for by everyone should not be mandatory on the country's cable services???

As for Fox News, our local provider here (Bell Aliant) carries the original unadulterated Fox News from the USA.

Nobody watches it..............

Marty_Mcfly · #**4358** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

I have some questions about the polls:
Do they contain information about respondents, i.e. age distribution, occupation, renting/owning (an estate), etc.?
It’ll be interesting to see the breakdown of voter intention by these categories.
If LPC consistently leads across all categories, then it’s game-over for CPC.
Otherwise, LPC may still win, but the election will be more like Biden vs Trump, not Wynne vs Hudak.
The polls will be even less reliable if some categories are missing.

The information collected varies from agency to agency, but typically the following information is always collected:

- Age
- Gender
- Province or Polling region
- Personal or Household Income
- Education

Mainstreet also asks about race.

The polls are then weighted to reflect Canada's census data on regional population, gender, and age.

Data tables with all this information should be attached somewhere to any poll release. Most people only look at the topline numbers, but you really need to dig into those detailed tables to really get a good sense of what's going on.

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Ridiculous number of polls coming out. Has it always been like this?

In the past 10 years or so yes.

Marty_Mcfly · #**4359** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 3:42 PM**

To add, since Nanos has begun it's high sample nightly tracker, you can see their data tables here; they provide info on region, age, and gender.
https://nanos.co/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2025-2783-ELXN-FED-2025-03-29-Field-Ended.pdf

And for comparison, here is today's Mainstreet who have much more detailed cross-tabs:
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66c8d...41d1ba1_2025-03-30_CAN_Daily_Tracker.pdf

MonctonRad · #**4360** Posted **Mar 30, 2025, 3:57 PM**

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This is PP's biggest problem.

No more "verb the noun" please.

Tell us what you really think about Canada. Tell us how you will defend Canada. Tell us how you will handle Herr Drumpf.

Be passionate in your love for this country and it's people.

Otherwise, just shut the hell up!!!