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'24 Sussex by Manulife' has a good ring to it. We could even put a logo or two on the rooftop reflected in the new tiles.
"24 Sussex by SNC Lavalin" I think lol. Maybe each PM gets to sell naming rights lol
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For what it's worth, the structure looks really good and clean based on these pictures. They don't build them like that anymore.

I still think it's worth saving. And considering how careful they seem to be stripping it down to the studs, I'd say the NCC feels the same.

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Photos reveal that 24 Sussex has been gutted inside
The official home of prime ministers in Ottawa has been closed and decommissioned for more than a year.

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Published Apr 13, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
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https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/places/24-sussex-drive
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36 million to renovate. Really???
4 million for labour, materials, and overruns.
32 million for security concerns?
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NCC eager for green light on 24 Sussex Drive, CEO says
"We are keen to move forward. Our board feels very very strongly that 24 Sussex is an important heritage building for our country."

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Published Apr 18, 2024 • Last updated 17 hours ago • 2 minute read


The National Capital Commission is ready to roll if and when the federal government makes a decision on the future of 24 Sussex Drive.

NCC CEO Tobi Nussbaum was asked after Thursday’s board meeting for his reaction to reports that former prime ministers Jean Chrétien and Stephen Harper had offered to lead a fundraising effort to restore the crumbling structure that was once home to Canadian PMs.

“In terms of the efforts made by Mr. Chrétien, which were reported in the press, if the government had said, ‘Yup, that’s something that we’re prepared to accept as an offer,” we would, of course, find a way to work closely with them,” Nussbaum said.

“We are keen to move forward. Our board feels very very strongly that 24 Sussex is an important heritage building for our country. We would like to see progress, and, if there are creative options on the table, we would be willing to partner with whomever wanted to help us with that. But, obviously and clearly, the decision on next steps is for the Government of Canada to make.”

The residence, vacant since Harper moved out in 2015, was riddled with asbestos, had decrepit heating, plumbing and electrical systems and, finally, was infested with wasps, bats, rodents and other pests. When it was declared unsafe for the few remaining staffers who worked there, the NCC began stripping it down to the studs. That work is mostly finished and the building’s heritage artifacts are now in storage, Nussbaum said. In the coming months, work will begin on the property’s gatehouse, he said.

Built in 1866 by an Ottawa Valley lumber baron, 24 Sussex was home for every Canadian prime minister from Louis St-Laurent to Harper and was the boyhood home for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Trudeau, however, chose to live at Rideau Cottage on the grounds of Rideau Hall after he was first elected in 2015.

“We’ve been very clear for many years now, but certainly since we initiated the abatement work at 24 Sussex last fall, that we are awaiting a decision from the Government of Canada on the future of prime ministerial residence, and that could include a decision on whether 24 Sussex remains the official residence or not,” Nussbaum said.

“We’ve been very very clear that the work we’re doing does not prejudge any outcome. We feel that we’re doing everything we can to prepare the moment when the Government of Canada turns to us and says, ‘OK. We’ve made a decision. Please move ahead.'”

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36 million to renovate. Really???
4 million for labour, materials, and overruns.
32 million for security concerns?
These are the people who paid 8 million for a shed at Rideau Hall.
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These are the people who paid 8 million for a shed at Rideau Hall.
They paid $3.6 million just to strip it out, which is a bit of a head scratcher.
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These are the people who paid 8 million for a shed at Rideau Hall.
It *is* a pretty swanky shed though
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Trudeau proposes way forward on 24 Sussex problem during final days in power
PM asks minister to develop new options for official residence

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Posted: Mar 13, 2025 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 6 hours ago


As Prime Minister Justin Trudeau prepares to leave office, CBC News has learned that one of his final acts is an attempt to settle the problem of 24 Sussex Drive, the official — and long vacant — residence of Canada's prime minister.

In a letter to Public Services and Procurement Minister Jean-Yves Duclos, Trudeau asks the minister to develop a proposal with options for a new official residence for the prime minister by January 2026.

The prime minister asks Duclos to set up an advisory committee that would weigh in on the location, cost, functionality and security requirements of the new residence.

Trudeau sent a separate letter to Public Safety Minister David McGuinty asking him to support the process, as his department would help with security planning.

CBC News has viewed the letters and was briefed on the overall plan by a senior government official who was speaking on background.

Trudeau asks Duclos to transfer responsibility for the residence from the National Capital Commission (NCC) to Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) — which already is responsible for buildings in the parliamentary precinct.

The advisory panel would include eminent Canadians that could include former prime ministers and clerks of the Privy Council to find a long-term solution for an official residence that would also include space for work and events and meet modern security requirements.

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I'm kind of sad Trudeau and his kids never moved into his childhood home.
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Where will the PM live? We know it's not 24 Sussex
Less than three weeks from the election, officials still can't say where the prime minister will actually reside.

Tom Spears, Ottawa Citizen
Published Apr 08, 2025 • Last updated 5 hours ago • 5 minute read


The National Capital Commission has been pouring a steady stream of money into Rideau Cottage for at least eight years, with upgrades that make the two-storey brick house look like it could be a prime minister’s residence for years to come.

Is that the plan? The various federal departments involved still aren’t saying, even though we are now just three weeks from the results of the federal election.

Plus, the next prime minister doesn’t have to move to an “official residence” at all, but is free to live anywhere, says Jonathan Malloy, a professor of political science at Carleton University.

“There’s certainly no rule requiring living in an official residence at all; I doubt there’s even one for the White House of 10 Downing Street,” he said. And 24 Sussex Drive, already vacant, “was only designated in the mid-20th century.”

But assuming Canadians want their next prime minister in an official home, and that the winner of the election wants that too, let’s follow the money and see which building it leads to.

Government documents from 2016 to 2024, many released under access-to-information law, show $5.3 million being spent at Rideau Cottage for guard huts, comms equipment, many unnamed “packages” for the RCMP, parking, fences and gates, along with a new roof.

Meanwhile nothing is happening at 24 Sussex, which remains gutted and stripped of wiring and plumbing.

Rideau Cottage was the home of the Trudeau family after the former Liberal leader won the 2015 election. The “cottage” is on the grounds of Rideau Hall and is one of several official residences, but has never been an official home of prime ministers.

Over the past week, I asked around for information on where the soon-to-be-chosen prime minister will live. If it’s Mark Carney, rumour suggests he might stay at his private Rockcliffe home. It could also be Pierre Poilievre. Official lips are sealed on where the winner will hang his hat.

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Tom Spears is a semi-retired Citizen reporter with a strong interest in access-to-information requests and the rocky history of Ottawa’s official residences.


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The lack of transparency is ridiculous.
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Ok but likely the next TWO Prime Ministers won't live at 24 Sussex, even IF they start design tomorrow. It'll be a couple years before a final design is complete. And then another several years before construction is tendered and completed.
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If Pierre wins, I could see him staying at Stornaway and Carney staying at his own personal residence (assuming he sticks around).
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I've come to the conclusion, if it were up to me. I would take old 24 Sussex and turn it into the often talked about "missing" portrait gallery. However, I would take this "Canada or Crown Gallery" for lack of better word, and add in a mandate to display a history of past Prime Ministers, and to make the gallery more interesting, I would have have it also have a gallery from the general "Crown Collection" - gifts of state received, random artifacts, etc. With this you can really stretch out the spending over say a decade to get it really up and running. I think this gutted building could be converted to a gallery more efficiently (in terms of dollars) then a Prime Ministers residence. I think this would be a really good way to use the building and could really synergize with Rideau Hall as a destination.

I generally don't like how "cheap" and dare I say small minded Canadians are in this type of stuff. The history with the "executive" branch air fleet is embarrassing.

In the past I've been very in favour of the "tear down" and rebuild with like a TV show idea that was thrown around a while ago. However, I think the lot is fundamentally to small.

It's very hard to justify this stuff when the country is faced with such challenging cost of living issues, and a housing crisis that has been a long time coming, and won't be solved in the short term. Because of this, and the very real fiscal constraints facing the country moving forward (boomers retiring, infrastructure demands, climate change and a need to re-militarize after the peace dividend era) the fiscal pressures are going to mount *significantly*. I think "Rideau Cottage" gives the State a lot of time to figure this out. I would kick this out to Parliament to study and the State/Canada to come up with a thoughtful process for what we actually need. We need transparency and leadership outside of the current PM in this regard, as the PM is frankly concerned with much bigger issues, and it's really not up to the PM of the day to solve this.

I've actually put a lot of thought into this. I think if we are going to do a new build, doing what the NCC has had envisioned with using a large part of Rockcliffe Park is what I would do. Ottawa has a lot of empty green space and that is imo pretty clear it's been held in reserve for a proper PMO has the country continues to evolve and grow. This is Rockcliffe Driveway.

I'm very keenly aware of the multi-decade (~30 years) refurbishment of the Parliamentary district which has been consuming many billions of dollars. This is the real show right now, and I think it's fitting 24 Sussex is not a priority. What's really interesting is what they will do to "Block 1" after they do "Block 2". This is the PMO block with the Privy Council Offices. This is the beating heart of the executive council of Canada. What they should do is demolish the old office block behind Langevin Block/PMO Building, widen the courtyard between the two buildings and really think about movement of vehicles in and out. Finally get rid of the silly cones kept on Metcalfe street for the PMO motor pool. However, this raises questions of the extend of the tunnel system on the Hill. I suspect there is proper garage that is used and not just the side door on Metcalfe. Why I'm saying this is because if they rebuild the Privy Council Building behind the PMO, they could build a Executive flat, which along with Meech Lake could be enough, however I would argue that doesn't facilitate a good environment for children, which is a really a key design focus.

This question comes down to what system we are intending to design. The "Executive Flat" is more like 10 Downing Street. Rideau Cottage is a great option if we want to create an environment for children as there is a lot of land in that corner of Rideau estate to use landscaping to create an enclave for children of all ages to have a meaningful childhood in a safe environment. However, if you want to do "White House North" what that means is making it a "working" estate. It boils down to "Where is the Cabinet". The PM has many offices. He has his Centre Block Office (modest, famously less expansive then the Opposition's Office which holds the cabinet table Canada fought WW2 with), he has the PMO Block which is integrated with the PCO. It's a hybrid between the political PMO & the real machine of government: PCO.

Do we want to create space between the PCO and PMO to further the goals of Good Government or is the existing system serving us well? These are some of reasons why I think it needs to be really studied and thought of more about the continuing journey of building the country as we continue to grow from the roughly 8 million we were in WW1 to the country of 50 million, 60 etc.

If you choose we need a "working residence" like the White House, then what does that really mean? It would mean this is where the Cabinet sits, as I think most people would agree we need to do things that strengthen "Cabinet" government over the rather limited bandwidth system we have been living with for a number of generations of PMs now where things are so centralized in the PMO. Would creating some space between the Privy Council (and Privy Council Chamber) and the PMO improve this? As the main fault in the Trudeau government is that it was like a 32 bit chip in a 64 bit world- significantly bottlenecked in the PMO.

My understanding is basically you have the Mackenzie King cabinet table in Centre Block, which is the WW2 Cabinet, and now the Office of Official Opposition, you have "The Cabinet Room" in the PMO building, and then you have the Privy Council Chamber in the PCO, but I'm unsure where it really is in "block 1". The Privy Council Chamber is slightly different then the Cabinet Room. One use of it imo would be like National Security Meetings and NISICOP type situations, as one is inducted into the Privy Council (for life I believe) once you get anywhere near that top echeclon of the "machine of government" which is removed from the political calculations of the PMO and how the "Cabinet Room" is the hybrid. I could very well see the existing PMO building consumed by the needs of Parliament and more spaces for the business of government on the Hill- like NSICOP and other extremely secure meeting locations or NSIRA. These are fundamentally Privy Council institutions as they are are the machine of government bodies over the political PMO. I could envision "Block 1" evolving (as the Hill has evolved greatly over the 20th century" into being fundamental about the role of the Privy Council and creating some separation with Cabinet.

It's cliche, but I wish we would have a more grown up conversation about this, educate people about our democracy and take this on as a "nation building" project with a much longer time frame.

As someone who believes in the somewhat archaic belief in *Cabinet* government and the executive branch as a *team* of Members of Parliament who should have some real independence I am fully open to all options here.

I'm fairly confident there is a vision in the NCC where the driveway to Rideau Hall is rerouted to the large roundabout in Rockcliffe Park and the long term vision is for the PMO to exist opposite of Rideau Hall in Rockcliffe Park, occupying the lawn found on Rockcliffe Drive.

But there are real questions here about working residence vs a secure residence for the children of the PM.

What's clear in my mind is the existing lot should be left behind. We can do Rideau Cottage or we can do a proper working residence with chief of staff & cabinet offices and a private enclave for children. To accomplish this we need more space like the White House with it's working wings & its private residence.

We need to be a country where a child today dreams of leading the country through both dark days and great days. This file actually matters if we do it the right in a way that fights against the cynicism and lack of faith & pride in our system that dominates our culture.

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Edit: Behind the Scenes of Trudeau's first day (2016) if you want to see inside the PM's Office in Parliament (which is rarely used my understanding; it's a place to get ready for QP and votes of Parliament) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1WHg5-Hws

I can not find a tour Thomas Mulcair did of his Office, which use to be the PMs office in Parliament. Much more grand. I was lucky to be in that office once for work and sat at the WW2 cabinet table. Added just for fun. Ultimately the PM, in this unique not quite federal system Canada truly is, the role of the PM is: national unity and the US relationship first, which is to say, National Security and Defence. I think if you took a 50 year horizon one would see how maybe it's better to let Langevin Block be absorbed into Parliament more to serve the needs of Parliament over the Executive Branch, and maybe there is something to the idea of the PM's residence as a working residence. It really does matter we strengthen our primary office of unity in this post modern world which means more stuff like Trudeau speaking at his door.

Chretien's 1995 "Would you destroy Canada?" speech from 24 Sussex and Trudeau's version of fireside chats during the pandemic come to mind of the moments where we really do need "the spot" the PM rallys the nation from. Chretien's was from like a dimly lit Office in a building falling apart lol where he held off an intruder with a carved jade statue.

The security issues should not be understated. I don't ever want to live the day Ben Harper or the children of the PM is killed by some wacko jumping a fence. We've actually had a lot of near misses from the murder of Nathan Cirillo and the storming of centre block, to Jean Chretien's bedroom last stand, to the crashing of Rideau Cottage by a heavily armed wacko, to the take over of the Hill by the "Wellington Street Regulars" who appear to have figured out doors this last couple days.

If we ever had a "I can announce an operation to kill Osama Bin Laden" moment which would be Chretien's "Would you destroy Canada" moment, we can't really do it in the House as you'd have non stop heckling and rules of procedure, so that's how you end up with "Mah Papers" speeches outside Rideau Cottage

I've definitely watched on BBC News multiple moments of rain coming down on the closed street of 10 Downing Street, but nothing like Sunak's election call lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXB2EzDd8Mo

Someone climbs the White House fence like once a year, and this is only going to go up with social media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnZ6FQXw0I8 We don't want to turn things into a fortress, but like our Parliament was stormed, our capital occupied (on-to-Ottawa 1935 would have been the same outcome as the Freedom Convoy), 10 Downing Street has been bombed, hijacked buses have been driven onto the Hill and the White House had to raise their fence because of all the fence climbing. What is most valuable is... space.. so you can create space for intervention before lethal force is applied (like in Congress or Parliament Hill when both buildings have been stormed in our recent times). The great hall to the Library of Parliament will always have bullet holes in it.

Big wide open lawns can accommodate both buffer space for security, intervention but also media and can be animated by the NCC letting us into some of the spaces that belong to everyone but functionally need to be reserved and secure. We don't want our spaces bugged for example.

Contrast Canada with our occasional throne speech with Russia's yearly State of the Nation address or the US's State of the Union address, a Westminister PM has few times they actually directly speak to the country. And considering Canada is a country that has perennial unity issues, is physically sandwiched between super powers over a vast domain, and has a growth model of rapid population growth from global migration- I really do think we need to consider this stuff seriously and the post modern operations of the primary unity figure: the Canadian Prime Minister.

This file also contextually what the country would look like if and when we move to our "Crowned Republic" state and replace the House of Windsor with some other form of appointed or elected Viceregal/GG/President. We are already, functionally, what I think the UK would actually evolve into if they ever moved on from the current House of Windsor where a Viceroy represents continuation of the ancient Crown from the House of Stuart, House of Hanover, House of Windsor (Saxe-Cobourg-Gotha) to the People themselves: i.e that image of the Throne of Canada occupied by a representative not from the muddy & bloody political arts but of the people more abstract. Had Terry Fox lived, he would have been our greatest viceregal.

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What a very detailed and well thought out post regarding a topic I (and assumedly many others) haven't put a ton of thought into. Some really interesting ideas on how to handle where the PM lives and works, and I really appreciated reading all that. Thank you!
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What a very detailed and well thought out post regarding a topic I (and assumedly many others) haven't put a ton of thought into. Some really interesting ideas on how to handle where the PM lives and works, and I really appreciated reading all that. Thank you!
Thank-you, I tried to have some fun with it and did not expect it to go on nearly that long. The evolution of the country continues. There's a lot of "inside baseball" I wanted to express from my times during the Harper era as an intern at Global News, like the tunnel network and the fact the PM can come and go from Parliament without appearing publicly for the media. Gone are the days of Trudeau speaking to the CBC just coming and going.

A working residence would have a Press Corp component or some kind of briefing room. Which in this era of "media pool" could be very "efficient" in it's use of space since the "feed" could be shared by the Press Gallery allowing it to just be a small theatre built for the 21st century needs of the post modern media landscape. Like the White House, it's hard to dodge the media for 10 years when they have a pass to your home.

But I'm a sucker for pomp & circumstance, and a strong believer this is part of the medium of democracy, and the *medium is the message* and our democracy is under threat.
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I had to scale it down, but hopefully you can still read the text if you open it in a new window.

Table:
- blue = parking
- green = pathways

This is my mark up of what I was imaging. This would not be as large as the White House, but that is just the best example to point to, as both Rideau Hall and the PMO/Cabinet/Residence share the duties that the White House does under 1 roof. But you can look up what kind of office space is found in a working residence by looking at the White House.

I'm not sure Cabinet Ministers would want to move off the Hill. But if we are spending this kind of money I would think we would get more bang for buck if we create office space for the Executive branch along with media space. The Hill and this estate can be linked by motorpool- members can share transportation.

The location of where the RCMP Protective Unit is HQ'd is close by, and I believe that is the location of our modern continuity of government. However, that is probably an Official Secret under the OSA, so I will just say it's a google earth suspicion. I have no proof, but if you are good at reading satellite imagery it kind of hides in plain sight. I'm not sure if we even do nuclear defence in that sense, considering Canadian airspace control is in an above ground office building in North Bay and has moved out of the the mountain bunkers.

I genuinely believe government can be improved by making Cabinet a bigger deal and giving them real office space inside the same building as the PMO. And I think "Block 1" can better serve the needs of Parliament as a multi-party institution. (PCO, NISRA)

We have something called the GOC - the GOC GOC - Government of Canada, Government Operations Centre. I feel like that is located at 101 Colonel By Drive, but I have no proof. (and it probably isn't, not until CAF fully moves out) The main advantage of 101 Colonel By Drive is the amount of parking and level of security. This could be located anywhere tbh, but let's imagine it at 101.

Canada lacks COBRA or a proper POTUS Situation Room, at least in the public eye. GOC is the closest we have, along with like I guess the 24/7/365 Desk at Global Affairs, and the IRG: our version of COBRA would be an ad-hoc meeting of the Incident Response Group.

These are the standing committees of the Executive Council in Canada:
Cabinet Committee on Canada-U.S. Relations and National Security
Central decision-making body for addressing the immediate economic threat from the United States, advancing efforts to renew and expand relationships toward lasting security and prosperity, sharing intelligence, and responding to threats and opportunities with respect to Canada’s national security.

Treasury Board
Oversees the effective management of public funds, the public service, and cross-government policies that enable increased effectiveness and productivity and ongoing improvements to client-centred program delivery. This includes accelerating the digitization and the use of artificial intelligence across government.

Cabinet Committee on Operations
Supports the broader functioning of Cabinet decision-making through review of time sensitive issues and decisions, co-ordination of Parliamentary planning, and the review of policy initiatives in advance of consideration by the full Cabinet.

Incident Response Group
Activated as needed for crisis management, co-ordination, and rapid decision-making in response to national crises or threats to Canada.

With the exception of Treasury Board, which already exists a Tribunal setup with a large support structure, these are the kind of "offices" and meeting rooms that I would think would go into a 24/7/365 working residence.

Along with Chief of Staff, Deputy PM (if existing), Media, Security, and Residence functions.

This outcome on this file is unlikely & open to debate, however, I do believe these visions exist in the NCC and I have heard it off hand by Peter Mansbridge on an episode of his podcast, so I'm not alone in hearing these things.

I do not believe Canadians will ever support this idea.

I'm dropping this quote to kind of give some context of why Ottawa has evolved and continues to evolve, as it's defintetly only in the post-world war and the complexity of the post-modern era that has really given Ottawa as a level of government any real power in our quasi - federal, co-sovereign Federation.

"John Ibbitson writes that by 1914:

Confederation had evolved into a creation beyond John A. Macdonald's worst nightmare. Powerful, independent provinces, sovereign within their own spheres, manipulated the rights of property, levied their own taxes—even income taxes, in a few cases—exploited their natural resources, and managed schools, hospitals, and relief for the poor, while a weak and ineffectual central government presided over not much of anything in the drab little capital on the banks of the Ottawa."
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If you look at Rideau Hall on sat maps you can clearly see the significant upgrades to the security around Rideau Cottage- with it's ~ 300-400 feet of buffer space. This money wouldn't necessarily be wasted as you could use this as the actual day-to-day residence for the GG (sleep & eat). And convert space inside Rideau Hall to more public & office functions. Maybe the actual residence in Rideau Hall could take over the functions of Rideau Cottage and be the guest accommodations for visiting heads of state or special guests of state (again I'll use Terry Fox as the perennial example of a great Canadian receiving regal honours) I understand that is logic might be odd, but it would definitely be more secure day to day while letting Rideau Hall be more public day to day, as you wouldn't need to worry about people getting "lost" on tour.

Of course our most important visitors would be the King/Queen or POTUS- so regardless the security upgrades to Rideau Cottage are not going to be wasted. As Rideau Cottage is where POTUS would probably sleep if visiting Ottawa.

It's where Zelensky would have stayed during our first War Time state visit in a long time, instead he stayed at Chateau Laurier (probably at a much larger expense as I imagine they must have booked out most of the hotel for his extensive security and in order to create buffer space) It was clear they had plains clothes security around the building at all times that day. When you're leaning on the wall with black gloves on "chilling" on your phone but not really doing anything... while looking like a 20 something Ukrainian SOF member...

This is of course if I recall correctly. I just happened to land in Ottawa that day behind his plane, so it made the visit more interesting.

Anyways, just random muses of a guy who spends way to much time looking at sat imagery.
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A new home for the prime minister is closer than ever — or so the NCC says
That a replacement for 24 Sussex Drive has become so controversial is, regrettably, a testament to our small-mindedness.

By Mohammed Adam, Ottawa Citizen
Published Sep 04, 2025 | Last updated 4 hours ago


Mark Carney’s decision to call Rideau Cottage home felt like a blow to efforts to build a fitting residence for Canadian prime ministers. With Carney doing a Trudeau by opting to live on the grounds of the Governor General’s residence, there appeared to be little hope that Canada was getting any closer to building a proper home for the prime minister.

It was one of the issues I raised in a recent interview with National Capital Commission CEO Tobi Nussbaum.

“Are we ever going to build a residence for the prime minister?” I asked. “Yes,” Nussbaum answered.

Then he explained: “I will say that we’ve been very clear that the decision on where the prime minister’s residence is, is not the NCC’s decision to make. It is the government of Canada. We are working closely with them developing a solution for the prime minister’s residence.”

Nussbaum went on: “I am probably more optimistic now than I have been in the six and half years I have been on the job that we can find a solution to this issue, working with them.”

“So, what is a ‘solution?’ ” I pressed. “Are we going to get a new residence, a dedicated residence for the prime minister? Is that what you are working on?” The answer came back: “Yes.”

And that’s as far as I got in unravelling the long-running saga of the prime minister’s residence. Nussbaum didn’t say when this would happen, where a new official residence would be built, and what will happen to the decrepit 24 Sussex Drive. I guess these are sensitive issues, and with discussions going on, the less said, the better. It is, however, interesting to note that before he left office, Justin Trudeau asked his then-public services and procurement minister, Jean-Yves Duclos, to draw up options for a new official residence by January 2026, and it may well be that the wheels are turning behind closed doors.

The fact that Canada doesn’t have — and can’t seem to bring itself to build — a decent home for our prime minster is truly a national embarrassment. That this has become such a controversial issue is, regrettably, a testament to our small-mindedness. It should be a no-brainer that if the prime minister’s official residence is crumbling and not habitable, we build a new one if we can’t restore the original.

And we have the resources to do so. We build this residence not for any individual, but for Canadian prime ministers in perpetuity. It is about national dignity. But we’ve tied ourselves in knots over this simple matter because prime ministers have been afraid to touch it. They have lacked the courage to make the decision and stand by it as the right one.

When Official Opposition leader Pierre Poilievre was once asked about it, he reached for a populist, but unserious response: “We don’t need a new home for the prime minister. We need a new home for working-class Canadians.” As he said this, the irony that he was living in a taxpayer-funded official residence at Stornoway was lost on him. It never dawned on him that such a privilege was beyond any working-class Canadian.

With the tariff war between the U.S. and Canada the top priority, Carney can be forgiven if a new prime minister’s residence is not a top-of-mind issue. But it is good to know that it is very much alive behind closed doors. Hopefully, soon, we can finally put the issue behind us. We need to build a home for the prime minister, no ifs and buts.

And let’s hope that when a decision is made, all of us — from the media to interest groups, politicians and Canadians at large — will get behind it, not turn it into political football to be kicked around for cheap points. It is not, and should never be a partisan issue on which to grandstand.

Mohammed Adam is an Ottawa journalist and commentator. Reach him at [email protected]

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/home-for-the-prime-minister
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There is no way Carney is going to build a McMansion for himself while slashing government spending pretty much across the board.
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