Canadian Federal Election

[ssiguy]

86%.........WOW! I don't think anyone, very much including myself, saw Carney winning with such an overwhelming mandate. This is good for the Liberals as a slim margin vote could have divided the Party.

I was very impressed with his win nearly as much as I was very unimpressed with his acceptance speech. I understand his fluency in French is not great but from what I saw, his English oratory skills aren't much better. Even when he tried the occasionally levity he came across as stiff and uncomfortable. He really did look like he was talking to a conference room of bankers..............his lack of political experience was on full display.

As for the election call, I think he will do it immediately. He could call it right now as you can call an election without Parliament sitting EXCEPT, from what I understand, he can't now because the Liberals asked for the Parliament to be prorogued by the GG and hence he cannot call an election until Parliament resumes on March 24th.

We are now effectively in an election and now it's definitely going to be a hard fought and interesting. If Carney, however, wants to be victorious, he better work on his oratory skills because I found him quite painful to listen to and unassuring and PP will make mincemeat out of him in the debates.

[Djeffery]

I would think he needs to be PM before he can call an election. I haven't seen anything official yet on when he gets sworn in. Martin, Campbell and Turner were a couple weeks after winning the leadership. This current process has been expedited, so maybe the transition will be as well. I also haven't heard anything that says Parliament can't be dissolved while prorogued, or that it can't be recalled before March 24th if that was case (considering the number of times the opposition parties said to recall Parliament the last couple months).

[Marshsparrow]

Conservatives upset Justin quit.
Conservatives confused about how the Cdn system works.
Love seeing D Smith going to be with B Shapiro at some Florida conference - most likely pro 51st state.
Pierre thinking Carney is "sneaky".

Should be an interesting week. Maybe Pierre will have time to do his security clearance paperwork after 20 years as a career politician.

[Marty_Mcfly]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

86%.........WOW! I don't think anyone, very much including myself, saw Carney winning with such an overwhelming mandate. This is good for the Liberals as a slim margin vote could have divided the Party.

I was very impressed with his win nearly as much as I was very unimpressed with his acceptance speech. I understand his fluency in French is not great but from what I saw, his English oratory skills aren't much better. Even when he tried the occasionally levity he came across as stiff and uncomfortable. He really did look like he was talking to a conference room of bankers..............his lack of political experience was on full display.

As for the election call, I think he will do it immediately. He could call it right now as you can call an election without Parliament sitting EXCEPT, from what I understand, he can't now because the Liberals asked for the Parliament to be prorogued by the GG and hence he cannot call an election until Parliament resumes on March 24th.

We are now effectively in an election and now it's definitely going to be a hard fought and interesting. If Carney, however, wants to be victorious, he better work on his oratory skills because I found him quite painful to listen to and unassuring and PP will make mincemeat out of him in the debates.

I don't believe this is true; it would appear that they're able to ask the GG to call an election whenever they see fit.

I suspect that we'll see a quick transition, with Carney calling an election either this Sunday (16th) or the following (23rd).

[Hackslack]

Congrats to Carney, congrats to the Liberals.

Nice to see under Carney he has very much adopted some policiesof the conservatives of the past number of years.

Carney is “axeing the carbon tax” as the cons have pressured the Liberals to do so. And the Liberals listened. Win for the cons… which makes me wonder… those same people who ridiculed the Cons for not having a carbon tax as part of their platform, ridiculing them for being anti-climate, are now standing with Carney and his mandate of no carbon tax. Nice to see yourselves hop on the cons policy bandwagon!

Chrétien, (if a god did actually exist, bless him) for having some common sense in the party, advocating to build a pipeline from AB to Quebec… this from a quebecer himself! We’ll see if master Mr. Economics Mark Carney has the same common sense.

Today is a good day for Canada, all divisiveness aside. I woke up this morning as a new leader will take the helm, the master divider, master virtue signaller, fake femisist, master manipulator, master dramatizer, lispy loser Justin Trudeau will no longer be PM.

No Justin, Canada does not belong to Quebec and the Québécois . Canada belongs to Canadians. Bring on another leader of Canada from the West!

Go Canada Go

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Today is a good day for Canada, all divisiveness aside. I woke up this morning as a new leader will take the helm, the master divider, master virtue signaller, fake femisist, master manipulator, master dramatic, lispy loser Justin Trudeau will no longer be PM.

A fresh start for Canada to be sure.

I am in the camp that thinks PP will have difficulty rallying people against Carney. Carney is most definitely not JT, and, he has removed the carbon tax as an irritant.

The real election battle will be fought against Adolf Drumpf. This places PP at a distinct disadvantage, since most people view him as a pro-trucker MAGA-light acolyte of Adolf Drumpf. If the Liberals were smart, they should just ignore PP (aside from continuing to draw comparisons between him and the US MAGA movement), and concentrate their election rhetoric totally toward the rise of American fascism.

[casper]

While Justin Trudeau did a good job as PM it was a different time. We needed a liberal party that could build a collaboration with the NDP.

Now is the right time for a change and I think Carney is a fantastic fit.

The only thing that was disappointing is the Liberal convention was not turned into a coronation like the DNC Harris convection. That was a dance party. So here we go to make up for it....



I think the Conservatives are searching for conspiracy theories to latch on just now. That will pass and at some point they will need real polices. Hopefully before the election. The only thing that is certain is the campaign bus and aircraft will need to be well stocked with apples.

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I was very impressed with his win nearly as much as I was very unimpressed with his acceptance speech. I understand his fluency in French is not great but from what I saw, his English oratory skills aren't much better. Even when he tried the occasionally levity he came across as stiff and uncomfortable. He really did look like he was talking to a conference room of bankers..............his lack of political experience was on full display.

I think most Canadians are going to be ok with that. Trudeau set a high bar for giving polished speeches. He will campaign on being an outsider after all.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Congrats to Carney, congrats to the Liberals.

Nice to see under Carney he has very much adopted some policiesof the conservatives of the past number of years.

Carney is “axeing the carbon tax” as the cons have pressured the Liberals to do so. And the Liberals listened. Win for the cons… which makes me wonder… those same people who ridiculed the Cons for not having a carbon tax as part of their platform, ridiculing them for being anti-climate, are now standing with Carney and his mandate of no carbon tax. Nice to see yourselves hop on the cons policy bandwagon!

Chrétien, (if a god did actually exist, bless him) for having some common sense in the party, advocating to build a pipeline from AB to Quebec… this from a quebecer himself! We’ll see if master Mr. Economics Mark Carney has the same common sense.

Today is a good day for Canada, all divisiveness aside. I woke up this morning as a new leader will take the helm, the master divider, master virtue signaller, fake femisist, master manipulator, master dramatizer, lispy loser Justin Trudeau will no longer be PM.

No Justin, Canada does not belong to Quebec and the Québécois . Canada belongs to Canadians. Bring on another leader of Canada from the West!

Go Canada Go

Yeah Justin is still PM, Mark is PM-designate.

And a final reminder, it was Stephen Harper who first floated the idea of a carbon tax - so thx Steve.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by casper

While Justin Trudeau did a good job as PM it was a different time. We needed a liberal party that could build a collaboration with the NDP.

Now is the right time for a change and I think Carney is a fantastic fit.

The only thing that was disappointing is the Liberal convention was not turned into a coronation like the DNC Harris convection. That was a dance party. So here we go to make up for it....



I think the Conservatives are searching for conspiracy theories to latch on just now. That will pass and at some point they will need real polices.

Trudeau was an awful PM. Most divisive PM ever, perhaps? I have listened to more full Mark Carney interviews since he has been PM-elect than I ever could in the 9 years Trudeau was PM

I think the Liberals have adopted/made up conspiracy theories than they’d like to admit…

I believe that no matter who wins the next election, ultimately, it will be the free market that decides Canadas future. We either get with the times and expand our global trade partners, or we continue to be handcuffed to the Americans.

Trudeau had the opportunity to make this happen the entire time he was PM. He didn’t, and here we are.

Let’s see if Carney ca make it happen, being a global elitist in economics, I hope he can.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Yeah Justin is still PM, Mark is PM-designate.

And a final reminder, it was Stephen Harper who first floated the idea of a carbon tax - so thx Steve.

Thanks Marshy Marsh

[missing_middle]

Carney is an ideal candidate for the western neoliberal establishment.

Which is why we're about to witness the world's greatest hypocrisy on what constitutes "foreign interference".

[Acajack]

From what I gather, PQ leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon and Mark Carney have one thing in common (from their past).

They both at one time played goalie for the Oxford University hockey team in England.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by samne

100k online votes selected the next PM for an entire country. We need an election now.

Just learning how a Parliamentary system works?

[WarrenC12]

This made me lol.

[casper]

Originally Posted by missing_middle

Carney is an ideal candidate for the western neoliberal establishment.

That is probably true. I am ok with it. Everyone gets uptight about the WEF and western neoliberal establishment.

Honestly what does that mean? I think it comes down to the concept of a Rules Based World Order. Basically countries respect each others bounders, disputes are settled in courts and not by gun boat. We have systems in place to support trade between countries. We believe in basic human rights.

The alternative to this is Trump and Putin deciding how the world functions and bullying everyone else around.

Originally Posted by missing_middle

Which is why we're about to witness the world's greatest hypocrisy on what constitutes "foreign interference".

I fully expect Musk and Trumps supporters and well as Russia, India and China to want to meddle in the next election. I don't think any of them want to see a Liberal government win.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

This made me lol.

Is it true it took PP 8 years to complete his BA degree online in admin?

Carney has a PhD and is a Doctor in economics?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

86%.........WOW! I don't think anyone, very much including myself, saw Carney winning with such an overwhelming mandate. This is good for the Liberals as a slim margin vote could have divided the Party.
….

Not really a surprise, the Liberal Party really has no ideals other than maintaining their power. They’ll shape shift into whatever’s required to maintain it.

Sad that after Freeland was the only one strong enough to put on the big boy pants and stick the knife into Trudeau she’s rewarded with a dismal 8%. Not even her own constituency went with her.

I wonder what very safe seat Carney will parachute into?

[SteelTown]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Is it true it took PP 8 years to complete his BA degree online in admin?

Carney has a PhD and is a Doctor in economics?

He got his BA in 2008 when he was 29 years old.

[samne]

Pierre was elected to Parliament at 24. Carney didn't even finish his masters at that age.. Pierre was elected second term and Parliamentary Secretary for Conservative government before Carney even finished school and got a real job.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by samne

But whatever, we are here and lets have an election now so Canadians can democratically choose their PM. Unless the Libs are afraid...

What would the Liberals be afraid of?