Canadian Federal Election

[Marshsparrow]

One just needs to watch the Pierre lovefest with Jordan Peterson to know what he thinks of Canada and what he has planned. He called us stupid.

He's Timbit Trump... no thanks.

Too bad the CPC made themselves out to be MAGA... big mistake!

[kiwi4353]

So what is the earliest we can expect a federal election to be held?

[samne]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Seems the CPC supporters sure are scared of Carney.

I’m scared of continuing in this destructive path or Libs deciding to not have an election.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Seems the CPC supporters sure are scared of Carney.

The surname "Carney" is of Irish origin, meaning "descendant of Cearnach" or "warlike".

[VantageHD]

Originally Posted by casper

What exactly is scary?

Record food bank use.
Record crime
Catch and Release
Turning cities into ghettos with fentanyl
Spying on 33 million Canadians
Stole billions in taxes
Eroded culture with mass immigration
Froze bank accounts for protesting government breaking charter rights
Destroying our energy sector and making us vulnerable and weak to the states
Imposing an inflationary carbon tax (tariff) on Canadians that will go up an additional 19% in April.
Canadians leaving the country at record numbers because life is so unaffordable
GDP per capita in decline, while the states is booming
Record breaking debt

I could go on, but keep drinking that liberal kool-aid. Nothing is better after 9 years of Trudeau and the liberal/ndp alliance.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Ozabald

I was told Stephen Harper was going put soldiers with guns on the streets of Canada.

He might still, he's telling us all to suffer whatever we need to do to resist the US annexation.

He's also trying to tell us Carney had nothing to do with his government's success in mitigating the 08-09 crisis.

[janbe74]

To both Pierre Poilievre and Mark Carney:

Donald Trump is going to put tariffs to Canadian dairy, lumber, and steel and aluminum next week.

Reciprocal tariffs, auto tariffs, and all of our products in early April.

It is about to get real for the both of you. You can't hide behind Justin Trudeau anymore.

Let's see what you are made of.

[casper]

Originally Posted by VantageHD

Record food bank use.
Record crime
Catch and Release
Turning cities into ghettos with fentanyl
Spying on 33 million Canadians
Stole billions in taxes
Eroded culture with mass immigration
Froze bank accounts for protesting government breaking charter rights
Destroying our energy sector and making us vulnerable and weak to the states
Imposing an inflationary carbon tax (tariff) on Canadians that will go up an additional 19% in April.
Canadians leaving the country at record numbers because life is so unaffordable
GDP per capita in decline, while the states is booming
Record breaking debt

I could go on, but keep drinking that liberal kool-aid. Nothing is better after 9 years of Trudeau and the liberal/ndp alliance.

Violent crime was heading down. From 2002 under Chretien, hit a low in 2014 part way under Harper and then started to head back up still below the 2002 level. Not great, but also not bad.

Fentanyl is a major problem. The status in Canada and the US follow similar patterns. Problem existed under Harper, continued under Trudeau. A bit worse since COVID period. Feds are responsible for writing the laws. Provinces are responsible for policing and health care delivery. I don't think anyone has a good handle on how to solve this problem.

"Catch and Release" is an interesting one. The provinces control prosecution and policing. They also own and operate the jails where people who are arrested but not yet convicted of a crime would be held. They also run the court system. All the feds do is write the laws.

Federal Government "spying" on 33 Million Canadians is a nonsense issue. They obtained masked data for cell phone tracking from the major telcos. Since it is masked the government has no idea who owns what cell phone.

I could continue but we are getting into conspiracy stuff at this point.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by casper

Violent crime was heading down. From 2002 under Chretien, hit a low in 2014 part way under Harper and then started to head back up still below the 2002 level. Not great, but also not bad.

Fentanyl is a major problem. The status in Canada and the US follow similar patterns. Problem existed under Harper, continued under Trudeau. A bit worse since COVID period. Feds are responsible for writing the laws. Provinces are responsible for policing and health care delivery. I don't think anyone has a good handle on how to solve this problem.

"Catch and Release" is an interesting one. The provinces control prosecution and policing. They also own and operate the jails where people who are arrested but not yet convicted of a crime would be held. They also run the court system. All the feds do is write the laws.

Federal Government "spying" on 33 Million Canadians is a nonsense issue. They obtained masked data for cell phone tracking from the major telcos. Since it is masked the government has no idea who owns what cell phone.

I could continue but we are getting into conspiracy stuff at this point.

I notice you glossed over the "screwing up the housing market so nobody under 40 can afford a home" bit.

[BlackDog204]

Popularity of Trudeau's positions and policies...

[janbe74]

Out of all the political leaders both Federal and Provincial Pierre Poilievre has been the least critical of Donald Trump attacking our Country.
Despite being conservative he is the only one who has yet in make a trip to Washington.

The man has been attacking Mark Carey more the Donald Trump.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by janbe74

Out of all the political leaders both Federal and Provincial Pierre Poilievre has been the least critical of Donald Trump attacking our Country.
Despite being conservative he is the only one who has yet in make a trip to Washington.

The man has been attacking Mark Carey more the Donald Trump.

He’s the leader of the opposition. Not the leader. You are expecting him to take on prime ministerial duties, when he is not the prime minister?

You haven’t heard from him simply because you haven’t been listening, or choose not to listen. He has been on record numerous times not only denouncing Trump’s actions, but also how he would counter his actions and stand up for Canadians.

You mention the premiers, again, they are the leaders of their government. Will you criticize every provincial leader of the opposition?

I garauntee that if PP took on prime ministerial duties and went to Washington to speak on behalf of Canadian, there would be uproar from you and your side…

Has Jagmeet Singh made a trip? What about BQ leader? Are you gonna point that out too?


What’s that saying? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t .

[samne]

Can’t hear from Poillievre or anyone else because you know who shut down parliament.

No debate on the matter. Just a Liberal minority government making unilateral statements.

They know Pierre and the others would be ripping them in Parliament right now. Hence the proroguing. The games they play…

[Edmonton_Ian]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

He’s the leader of the opposition. Not the leader. You are expecting him to take on prime ministerial duties, when he is not the prime minister?

You haven’t heard from him simply because you haven’t been listening, or choose not to listen. He has been on record numerous times not only denouncing Trump’s actions, but also how he would counter his actions and stand up for Canadians.

You mention the premiers, again, they are the leaders of their government. Will you criticize every provincial leader of the opposition?

I garauntee that if PP took on prime ministerial duties and went to Washington to speak on behalf of Canadian, there would be uproar from you and your side…

Has Jagmeet Singh made a trip? What about BQ leader? Are you gonna point that out too?


What’s that saying? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t .

[casper]

Originally Posted by samne

Can’t hear from Poillievre or anyone else because you know who shut down parliament.

No debate on the matter. Just a Liberal minority government making unilateral statements.

They know Pierre and the others would be ripping them in Parliament right now. Hence the proroguing. The games they play…

Poillievre is free to hold a press conference any time he wants to. There is even a special room in Ottawa all decked out for the purpose. If he wants to stand in the halls outside of parliament certain the press will show up and shower him with questions.

[Marty_Mcfly]

Originally Posted by kiwi4353

So what is the earliest we can expect a federal election to be held?

The absolute earliest one could be held would be under the following scenario:
- LPC leader is announced on Sunday
- New LPC leader drops the writ on Monday
- The minimum campaign length as decided by Elections Canada is 37 days
- 37 days would get you to Wednesday, April 16th. But Elections must be held on Mondays UNLESS Monday is a holiday, which would push it to Tuesday.

So the absolute earliest election day can be is Tuesday, April 22nd since Monday the 21st is Easter Monday.

I doubt we're on this fast of a timeline though. I do think the Liberals will opt for a shorter campaign, but I can't see them calling it within 24 hours of electing their new leader. I suspect what will happen is the leader and Trudeau will work through a quick transition period and we'll get a writ drop about a week after the new leader is elected.

So my actual prediction for when election day will be is April 28th. Maybe May 5th if they opt for a slightly longer campaign, though like I've said, a longer campaign does not benefit the Liberals at all.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

The absolute earliest one could be held would be under the following scenario:
- LPC leader is announced on Sunday
- New LPC leader drops the writ on Monday
- The minimum campaign length as decided by Elections Canada is 37 days
- 37 days would get you to Wednesday, April 16th. But Elections must be held on Mondays UNLESS Monday is a holiday, which would push it to Tuesday.

So the absolute earliest election day can be is Tuesday, April 22nd since Monday the 21st is Easter Monday.

I doubt we're on this fast of a timeline though. I do think the Liberals will opt for a shorter campaign, but I can't see them calling it within 24 hours of electing their new leader. I suspect what will happen is the leader and Trudeau will work through a quick transition period and we'll get a writ drop about a week after the new leader is elected.

So my actual prediction for when election day will be is April 28th. Maybe May 5th if they opt for a slightly longer campaign, though like I've said, a longer campaign does not benefit the Liberals at all.

Elections Canada, at least out here in BC, have started getting their ducks in a row, asking previous election officials their availability for training sessions. In their email they said "current thinking is election day will likely be somewhere between early May and mid-June".

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by samne

Can’t hear from Poillievre or anyone else because you know who shut down parliament.

Pierre has had a couple of speeches, but most Canadians wouldn't know it.

As I brought up and elly clarified, he looks awful and his speech lacks confidence. He's off his "game" and elly surmises he's going through some things in his life whether health related, family issues or other.

The other day he told Donald Trump in his speech "Knock it off. Stop the chaos"
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Yeah I'm sure President Trump cares, and is really worried about a guy he barely knows exists, that comes across as Canada's step dad that has no power

His appeal to act tough for Canadians falls flat when almost no one sees your speeches.

[casper]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I notice you glossed over the "screwing up the housing market so nobody under 40 can afford a home" bit.

I guess I did.

It is mostly a BC and Ontario problem and even then a big city problem.

Housing is more expensive overall but still affordable in most of the country.

Feds have been dumping money into social housing, co-op and loans for private owned rental. That covers the bottom part of the market.

Provincial governments and the municipal government have been tacking rezoning and permits to make it easer to build homes.

What exactly were expecting PP to do at the federal level that does not involve strong arming elected municipal governments?

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Pierre has had a couple of speeches, but most Canadians wouldn't know it.

As I brought up and elly clarified, he looks awful and his speech lacks confidence. He's off his "game" and elly surmises he's going through some things in his life whether health related, family issues or other.

The other day he told Donald Trump in his speech "Knock it off. Stop the chaos"
• Video Link

Yeah I'm sure President Trump cares, and is really worried about a guy he barely knows exists, that comes across as Canada's step dad that has no power

His appeal to act tough for Canadians falls flat when almost no one sees your speeches.

Trudeau is the opposite

Trudeau’s appeal to act tough for Canadians falls flat when almost everyone sees his speeches.


Carney, we’ll have to see, though he’s been known to spew lie after lie lately.