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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 5:57 PM
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How about a functional dock that could accommodate a variety of uses from personal water craft to tourboats and water taxis plus a memorial to Tina Fontaine connected to the MMIWG2S awareness campaign. Perhaps some simple infrastructure for ceremonial activities such as a hearth and circle of stone benches.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 7:49 PM
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Re: Docks. I know there will be a requirement for some sort of memorial to Tina Fontaine.

Interestingly, from what I heard, this was kind of the committee's idea thinking they needed to acknowledge/be sensitive to it. But when they went to some Indigenous groups and elders, they didn't really seem to care about it and said the goal should be to just design something functional and useful to the area that attracts people and gives kids a place to hang out and enjoy the river. But the committee still wants it included, lol.

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I am not seeing any CRU's. Since this faces King Street, I know the city' vision was to bring back retail on King.
Also, since most of Chinatown resembles a war zone, Hopefully a couple more HAF related developments around this area get approved before a federal shift in government.
Looks to me like there is at least one if not two CRUs on the south side. Maybe one plus a gym or the lobby.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 7:53 PM
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Re: Docks. I know there will be a requirement for some sort of memorial to Tina Fontaine.

Interestingly, from what I heard, this was kind of the committee's idea thinking they needed to acknowledge/be sensitive to it. But when they went to some Indigenous groups and elders, they didn't really seem to care about it and said the goal should be to just design something functional and useful to the area that attracts people and gives kids a place to hang out and enjoy the river. But the committee still wants it included, lol.
Including a memorial of some kind, even if it's just a plaque, is the right thing to do IMO. If one isn't included, there is bound to be some folks who will claim it is an example of racism/colonialism, and the opinions of the Indigenous groups consulted beforehand will be forgotten.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 8:00 PM
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Including a memorial of some kind, even if it's just a plaque, is the right thing to do IMO. If one isn't included, there is bound to be some folks who will claim it is an example of racism/colonialism, and the opinions of the Indigenous groups consulted beforehand will be forgotten.
Agreed. I think the original idea is that it would be a substantial component, but I think a plaque or sculpture would do.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 9:22 PM
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This might be a dumb take, but my biggest gripe with the parks down waterfront is that it's hard to actually see the river. Stephen Juba park between the rail bridge and the docks is a nice park, though it hardly feels like a waterfront park aside from a few breaks between the trees. It doesn't really differentiate itself from any other nice park in the city by utilizing the river it runs beside (besides during the winter when all the leaves are gone).

Would it not feasible to trim out some of the low growth and open the park up to the river? I understand that root systems and such are important for erosion protection, but could that not be supplemented with infrastructure? Or would the cost for a project like that be astronomical and out of Winnipeg's range..

It just feels weird to me to sit on a river facing park bench with a wall of bush blocking any view of the water.
My partner say this everytime we walk/run that path from Cibos to Blue Cross Park.. In the winter it looks beautiful having the view of the River and Fort Gibraltr, but in the summer, you can't see anything. the Park path should also be widened to have one side for cyclists and one side for pedestrians, and should follow the river and connect to the river walk at the Forks. Would make for great connectivity rather than follow the sidewalk down Israel Asper Way.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 9:29 PM
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You can't see the river because it's supposed to be naturalized riparian forest, some of the most endangered landscape on the prairie. It's naturally dense by its very nature, lots of water and such.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2025, 9:59 PM
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The riverbank in behind Fort Gibraltar is really nice. In the summer when it's fully vegetated, there's fern like plants (not sure if actual ferns but some type of nice plant) in there and it's beautiful.
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This might be a dumb take, but my biggest gripe with the parks down waterfront is that it's hard to actually see the river. Stephen Juba park between the rail bridge and the docks is a nice park, though it hardly feels like a waterfront park aside from a few breaks between the trees. It doesn't really differentiate itself from any other nice park in the city by utilizing the river it runs beside (besides during the winter when all the leaves are gone).

Would it not feasible to trim out some of the low growth and open the park up to the river? I understand that root systems and such are important for erosion protection, but could that not be supplemented with infrastructure? Or would the cost for a project like that be astronomical and out of Winnipeg's range..

It just feels weird to me to sit on a river facing park bench with a wall of bush blocking any view of the water.
I have always wondered why somebody doesn't do a Google Map street view pictorial of both the Red and Assiniboine rivers thru Winnipeg.

I have seen some private Manitoba companies have done this for highway views. As you can see their company logo if you pan down I think they are doing this for business promotional purpose's

If somebody had the time to do the Red River from Emerson to Lockport that would be nice to see as well.
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2025, 10:10 PM
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My partner say this everytime we walk/run that path from Cibos to Blue Cross Park.. In the winter it looks beautiful having the view of the River and Fort Gibraltr, but in the summer, you can't see anything. the Park path should also be widened to have one side for cyclists and one side for pedestrians, and should follow the river and connect to the river walk at the Forks. Would make for great connectivity rather than follow the sidewalk down Israel Asper Way.
I fantasize about having Winnipeg's own version of the Vancouver seawall with a raised boardwalk along the shore of the Alexander docks all the way to the legislative building, while opening up large sections of the thick bush barrier to connect it to adjacent parks (Bonnycastle, the forks, Stephen Juba, that ambiguous section between the CMHR and Blue Cross Park..) so that people can flow freely between them.

A nice attraction at the docks would also help make it worth it (the obvious choice being sam katz's waterpark??)
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2025, 11:29 PM
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I fantasize about having Winnipeg's own version of the Vancouver seawall with a raised boardwalk along the shore of the Alexander docks all the way to the legislative building, while opening up large sections of the thick bush barrier to connect it to adjacent parks (Bonnycastle, the forks, Stephen Juba, that ambiguous section between the CMHR and Blue Cross Park..) so that people can flow freely between them.

A nice attraction at the docks would also help make it worth it (the obvious choice being sam katz's waterpark??)
Yes a year-round raised boardwalk would be amazing, although I would want it to go a little further west to where either Spence st or Cornish ave connect to the river, in order to give West Broadway and Wolseley quick access to it.

I find it frustrating in general how difficult it is to even see the river in wpg unless you happen to be crossing a bridge (or own private river property of course). And the current river walk is under water half the time, looks dumpy due to being washed over with clay, is absolutely covered in goose shit, and doesn't always feel particularly safe to be on.

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2025, 3:12 PM
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Interesting item on the upcoming Water and Waste committee meeting. It sounds like 549**** have a mixed use development planned for the little Pazsteaks site near the ballpark.

Kudos to them if they build something there. Hopefully it could lead to some of the abysmal parking lots in the area being developed.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2025, 3:12 PM
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Yes a year-round raised boardwalk would be amazing, although I would want it to go a little further west to where either Spence st or Cornish ave connect to the river, in order to give West Broadway and Wolseley quick access to it.
If you want access to the river - right now is the perfect time. Obviously there is the skating/walking trail that is groomed to to Hugo - but there is still a nice (unofficial) walking trail that keeps going west thru Armstrong Point, Wolseley and probably all the way to Assiniboine park (although I usually don't get past Omands Creek).

If you dog walk - that stretch west of Hugo is also an amazing, never ending off leash dog park.

Lots of cool rinks and fire pit areas prepped on the Wolseley side of the river as well.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2025, 3:33 PM
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Interesting item on the upcoming Water and Waste committee meeting. It sounds like 549**** have a mixed use development planned for the little Pazsteaks site near the ballpark.

Kudos to them if they build something there. Hopefully it could lead to some of the abysmal parking lots in the area being developed.
546 Architecture is still trying to get their Bond Tower built. I hope they are successful too as I have always liked this projects. It kind of died right around the beginning of covid. 7 storeys - 24 units multi-family.



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Old Posted Jan 28, 2025, 3:39 PM
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That was still active as of Covid?? I thought it died years and years ago. I wonder if the City will hold them back based on figuring out transit in this area. That'll be right smack dab in the middle of the BRT.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2025, 8:12 PM
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I know the original owner of Ms. Browns is gone, but would love if they made a come-back to that location. Loved it when Ms Browns was in the Exchange.

It doesn't quite hit the same at Hargrave St. Market
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It doesn't quite hit the same at Hargrave St. Market
It hits even less than you might realize. They've been gone from Hargrave Market for close to a year.
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Wow. RNDSQR is doing another building?

I like the concept sketch. I guess it’s not 546.
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