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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2025, 11:48 AM
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This would be true if instead of Kamala Harris it was an all time dream candidate. There’s not really a Mark Carney equivalent in American politics, as their central bankers were highly unpopular throughout the entirety of the Great Recession that Obama pulled America out of.

Maybe the equivalent in American politics would be like if Austan Goolsbee was chosen instead of Kamala out of nowhere. Except, unlike Goolsbee who isn’t known by many Americans, Carney is a well known entity in Canadian governance. Boomers especially remember and revere him for delivering Canada through the 2008 financial crisis. The Canadian equivalent to Kamala, is Chrystia, not Mark Carney.

American’s don’t respect bankers, Canadians generally do. Not many people thought Mark Carney would actually run 3 months ago, but he’s long been considered the one candidate that might actually give the LPC a shot to win the election. His candidacy is fundamentally different than Harris’s… basically no one considered Harris a dream candidate… many, many people have long considered Carney to be the dream candidate for the Liberals, well before he announced his candidacy.

We’re getting the mini primary that Democrats wanted, and not only that, candidate is going to get the benefit of being the incumbent head of government… something Biden was unwilling to do. Harris might have had a fighting chance had Obama resigned from the presidency the day he announced he was dropping out of the 2024 race.
I'm sorry, you are saying Carney is more a dream candidate here than Harris was in the US? I think Carney is a pretty much unknown to anyone who doesn't follow politics. Sure, this is our mini-primary, but it wouldn't have mattered in the US if they had their primary. Aside from Pence last year, who was actually running against a former President , Vice Presidents get the nomination when they seek it. I'm not even going to bother going back to finding when the last time a VP didn't get their party's nod for the top spot because it wouldn't be relevant to our times. And of course, you meant if Biden had resigned last July, but he also knew she had a lot of work ahead of her to run a campaign that just started with 3 months to go to also be taking on the work of being President at the same time.

My point is, the Liberals are getting their bounce now, the way Harris did, but when it got down to it, it wasn't sustainable. At least here, unlike the US, voters aren't going to be looking at the opposition as the party of the good times 5 years ago. But it's going to be a real uphill struggle for the Liberals to turn this ship around after 10 years in power, no matter who the leader is. This is still the CPC's to lose. I do think Carney's best chance is to get that election in as soon as possible before the economy comes to a screeching halt from the tariffs. He's probably not taking office for 2 weeks, so I would expect the election call to happen instead of Parliament coming back on the 24th. The funny thing is that Pierre has been pushing for an election so hard that the best thing now for him would be to wait a few months.

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