Canadian Federal Election

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Mark Carney... well, then I'm honestly at a 50/50 split. I think PP would be better for domestic issues and correcting some of the more extreme and poor decisions from the current Liberal government, but I think Carney would make a better face of Canada and do better on the international stage / relations, but it will still be the Liberals...

(honestly, the "no more major highway projects" made by the environmental minister last year while the TC through BC is in dire needs of a proper upgrade, along with many other cross regional highway links, is the poster child of idiotic policies that have contributed greatly to our current vulnerability to the US tariffs from the Liberal government. They really need to show some solid proposals to convince me that has changed. Start twinning Yoho!)

This is pretty much where I am at as well. For sure Carney will continue to destroy wealth in order to make climate change virtue signaling but on most other economic issues he is a safer pair of hands. PP is likely to hand over to the wealthiest a bunch of tax cuts that will quickly be transferred out of the country but that at least triggers some growth.

On the general anti Canadian, Woke and reconciliation agenda we are in need of a big change. Carney is likely to dial it back in tone but kick the can down the road. I actually trust him to rein in immigration more than PP in a only Nixon can go to China sense. It is no longer a clear choice. Partly because Carney corrects lots of the worse parts of a 4th Trudeau mandate but also because the weaknesses of Polievre are now potentially more fatal given the current environment.

[casper]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

It wasn't an issue until Trudeau brought US style quotas and reverse discrimination policies to Canada. In fairness corporate Canada was also a big factor importing these ideas into Canada

The Canadian approach has generally been to remove barriers that would discriminate against minorities or disadvantages groups being hired. I think that is solid policy both in the private and public sector. Give everyone a fair and equal chance.

Canada does not really have hiring quotas in the same sense as the US did.

The metrics where you measure the number of group is how you determine if your making progress. If your making progress over time with a large enough sample size you should see something that is more reflective of the population as a whole.

What I think got some right leaning folks in arms is seeing Canadian corporations actively court the gay community by participating in parades or flying flags. Or seeing banks recognize black history months or the like. Well in 2025 and by all means corporations should be free to recognize the communities they serve. Now is not the time to go backwards on any of that.

[BlackDog204]

This cannot be good for the Conservatives, if Byrne is Poilievre's chief of staff, and campaign strategist. It should be noted that she posted this pic on her social media accounts last year.

Another problem for the CPC, is that Byrne is 0-3 in terms of election results.

[MonctonRad]

This is nuclear for PP. She should be fired immediately.

[savevp]

Not sure where that screenshot came from but there is nothing on this alleged bombshell on any news sites, including the Hill Times. Perhaps an easily - Photoshopped image with a Maga hat edited in, and a fake headline atop it all.

Fake news, in short.

Edit: the Maga hat appears to be a real photo from 2016. There's no indication of any current Trump support on her socials, and the alleged news screenshot came from 'Canadians Against Pierre Poilievre' on Facebook. Byrne is odiously hyperpartisan, but this is not a bombshell.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by savevp

Not sure where that screenshot came from but there is nothing on this alleged bombshell on any news sites, including the Hill Times. Perhaps an easily - Photoshopped image with a Maga hat edited in, and a fake headline atop it all.

Fake news, in short.

Edit: the Maga hat appears to be a real photo from 2016. There's no indication of any current Trump support on her socials, and the alleged news screenshot came from 'Canadians Against Pierre Poilievre' on Facebook. Byrne is odiously hyperpartisan, but this is not a bombshell.

Thanks. If that is the case, I rescind my call for her dismissal. Both sides of the political spectrum are capable of fake news.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Thanks. If that is the case, I rescind my call for her dismissal. Both sides of the political spectrum are capable of fake news.

That 0-3 record is probably more alarming than anything…

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by elly63

Depends which side you are on

Which conspiracy side are you on? I'm not on any.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by savevp

Not sure where that screenshot came from but there is nothing on this alleged bombshell on any news sites, including the Hill Times. Perhaps an easily - Photoshopped image with a Maga hat edited in, and a fake headline atop it all.

Fake news, in short.

Edit: the Maga hat appears to be a real photo from 2016. There's no indication of any current Trump support on her socials, and the alleged news screenshot came from 'Canadians Against Pierre Poilievre' on Facebook. Byrne is odiously hyperpartisan, but this is not a bombshell.

"It’s because in their heart of hearts, they think Trump is right. They think he’s right about diversity, equity and inclusion programs, about the importance of growing oil and gas production, about the “scam” of climate change, about “wokeism,” and about the importance of revering our history rather than reviewing it. Indeed, it’s hard to find anything they don’t think he’s right about other than the tariffs directed at our economy, and even then they seem willing to grant him his various half-baked justifications and explanations.

Just listen to Poilievre talking about foreign aid at his recent press conference in decidedly Trumpian terms. “We can’t be sending billions of dollars to other places, often as much of it is wasted and stolen and swallowed up by bureaucracies that act against our interests,” he said. “I will be bringing our money home with massive cuts to these wasteful and corrupt foreign aid grants.” Sound familiar? It should.

The Liberal campaign ads here practically write themselves. That’s especially true when they have photos of high-profile Conservatives like Jenni Byrne, Poilievre’s senior adviser and close friend, proudly wearing their MAGA hats. The CPC’s affinity for Trump and those in his orbit is an anchor that Liberals will tie around their collective waist, one they know Poilievre and his team can’t actually cut. If they do, after all, they’ll invite the bleeding of far-right support to Maxime Bernier’s People’s Party that they’ve spent years trying to avoid."

How Canada’s Conservatives Trumped themselves

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

That 0-3 record is probably more alarming than anything…

...soon to be 0-4

[Dengler Avenue]

Anecdotally, in my project meeting with 2 colleagues in my age, they said that they're happy about the house price coming down (especially when one of them currently lives in Vancouver Proper) while their parents are not.
How divisive can this election get...
At this point, I can no longer rule out the possibility that people (who think they're losing in life) will overlook PP's red flags and vote conservative regardless...

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Anecdotally, in my project meeting with 2 colleagues in my age, they said that they're happy about the house price coming down (especially when one of them currently lives in Vancouver Proper) while their parents are not.
How divisive can this election get...
At this point, I can no longer rule out the possibility that people (who think they're losing in life) will overlook PP's red flags and vote conservative regardless...

It really depends what Trump does in the next few days. The only way I can possibly see PP pulling the election off, is if Trump announced that he is cancelling the tariffs on Canada, and will honour the 2019 Trade agreement signed by Trudeau, and agree to respect Canadian sovereignty.

Anything short of that, I expect a Liberal minority.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Anecdotally, in my project meeting with 2 colleagues in my age, they said that they're happy about the house price coming down (especially when one of them currently lives in Vancouver Proper) while their parents are not.
How divisive can this election get...
At this point, I can no longer rule out the possibility that people (who think they're losing in life) will overlook PP's red flags and vote conservative regardless...

Best possible outcome is housing prices moderate and basically don't go up or down all that much for a decade. While at the same time wages go up slowly.

Single family housing prices in Vancouver are down 1.1%. That is not going to get anyone overly worked up that has owned for a decade or more.

The people that are probably in trouble are the ones that purchased condos for short term rental, are not allowed to do that anymore and are discovering the layout is crappy for anything else. They deserve what they are getting.

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

It really depends what Trump does in the next few days. The only way I can possibly see PP pulling the election off, is if Trump announced that he is cancelling the tariffs on Canada, and will honour the 2019 Trade agreement signed by Trudeau, and agree to respect Canadian sovereignty.

Anything short of that, I expect a Liberal minority.

Trump admitting he was wrong. Not likely. So we have a Liberal minority or majority government. I can live with that.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by casper

Single family housing prices in Vancouver are down 1.1%. That is not going to get anyone overly worked up that has owned for a decade or more.

Yeah, my townhouse in Metro Vancouver dropped 4% last year, but since 2016 it's still up 132%. I'm not sweating little drops like that, especially since all of the gains are completely tax free.

[casper]

We have some interesting development in the race.

Harper is now flip-flopping about Carney contribution to addressing the financial crisis. When he Carney went to the Bank of England, Harper wrote about how he was a valuable partner. Now he is writing that in no way does he support Carney and thinks Carney is taking away Flaherty legacy.

The truth is likely somewhere between. But interesting that Harper is writing letters to Conservatives. Perhaps PP has realized he is in trouble and needs Harper to come and save him.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-carney-financial-crisis-1.7473091

[suburbanite]

Originally Posted by casper

Best possible outcome is housing prices moderate and basically don't go up or down all that much for a decade. While at the same time wages go up slowly.

The best possible outcome is that we wait 10+ years for wages to increase such that the ratio of housing prices to incomes maybe gets back to only "ridiculously unaffordable" territory instead of "you will never own a home on a median income" territory?

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

The best possible outcome is that we wait 10+ years for wages to increase such that the ratio of housing prices to incomes maybe gets back to only "ridiculously unaffordable" territory instead of "you will never own a home on a median income" territory?

Yep that's par for the course of Casper Boomers, their favourite recipe to protect Boomer wealth. Force young Canadians to abandon their long term plans and any hope for raising a family, as long the housing bubble remains intact uber alles. Young Canadians have been forced to sacrifice up to now, so why not force them to wait another 10+ years before they have a chance to buy a dog crate condo that's slightly less ridiculously unaffordable.

[Nite]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This is nuclear for PP. She should be fired immediately.

She isn't just Galen Weston's lobbyist and MAGA supporter, she is also PP former long term girlfriend for those that don't know



Jenni Byrne and Pierre Poilievre on June 28, 2004.

...But her relationship with Poilievre has a different dynamic.

Their background includes a long-term romantic relationship, a bond once described on Poilievre’s Wikipedia page as “common law” — a suggestion that things were serious.
Byrne has acknowledged their past on The Curse of Politics, the must-listen podcast for politics junkies in Canada.

They got together before he was first elected as an MP in 2004, then parted months before Byrne steered Harper’s team to a majority win in 2011. On Jan. 29 that year, the same user scrubbed the relationship from both of their Wikipedia pages....

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/10/jenni-byrne-is-just-getting-started-00056012

If i was the Liberals this would be on ever lawn sign :


https://x.com/dirtsleep/status/1753828860435837019

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Nite

She is also PP former girlfriend

I wonder what his current wife thinks of this. A bit of a triangle here n'est pas?

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by casper

The Canadian approach has generally been to remove barriers that would discriminate against minorities or disadvantages groups being hired. I think that is solid policy both in the private and public sector. Give everyone a fair and equal chance.

Canada does not really have hiring quotas in the same sense as the US did.

The metrics where you measure the number of group is how you determine if your making progress. If your making progress over time with a large enough sample size you should see something that is more reflective of the population as a whole.

What I think got some right leaning folks in arms is seeing Canadian corporations actively court the gay community by participating in parades or flying flags. Or seeing banks recognize black history months or the like. Well in 2025 and by all means corporations should be free to recognize the communities they serve. Now is not the time to go backwards on any of that.

Actually it varies depending on the Government service . A friend of mine is in a management position for a large School board out East. She runs part of the Finance capability and has been ordered to only accept BIPOC candidates and they will work on skill development later. Lets just say that Island time work practices have become part of the Skills development. Lots of overtime for my friend as the work still has to get done. She is the most apolitical person I know but there is the dawning of a negative political culture within Her.