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Old Posted Feb 19, 2025, 6:18 PM
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Proposal for 128 River Ave, closer to Main St.

6 storey building. Nice to see some action in that area.
http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/perm...0224(RM)CCC-18
City Council previously approved a design with Single Room Occupancy on this property. It seems the project has been redesigned to 1-,2-, and 3-bedroom apartments and resubmitted for approval.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2025, 11:08 PM
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It would be great to get something new going on that part of River. One could hope that something might finally happen on that giant lot on Mayfair, too.
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If anyone wants a fun read, here is an appeal against a 4-plex on McMillan Ave (one block north of Corydon). Keep in mind that this block already has 3 apartment buildings on it.

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/Vie...onId=&InitUrl=

Please consider this my opposition regarding the Variance Order for 838 McMillan Ave,
Winnipeg - DAV 220458/2024D [c/r DAZ 215/2024]

There is no benefit to current property owners living in the vicinity of 838 McMillan Avenue on increasing the size of the build as proposed in the variance order. This is an established neighbourhood with most homes having a character that is no longer seen in new builds. The neighbourhood homes were originally built to ensure there is space between properties for
reasons of space, privacy, and desirability of the neighbourhood. Most property owners move to this area because of the character of the neighbourhood. Furthermore, due to the desirably of their homes and character of the neighbourhood, current home owners on the block have invested significant money and time to the maintenance of their properties, both inside and outside.

Zoning laws are meant to describe how land can be used and the types of structures/buildings that are permitted to be developed. This provides some reassurance to existing property owners that there are rules and regulations to ensure appropriate structures are built within the area they live. There are reasonable expectations of city officials to ensure zoning laws are enforced for the protection of home owners and occupants of the neighbourhood. Any variance to zoning by- 25 laws, especially when opposition is being put forward by those directly and negatively affected by the variance, should be considered serious and the variance not be approved.

Though my preference would to be to preserve the current house located on 838 McMillan Avenue, my main objection is related to the expansion of the proposed build. Reasons for my objection are as follows –
• Building a residence larger than what was intended for this property will have a negative impact on the character of a well-established block.
• Will increase congestion to an already highly dense neighbourhood, including –
o Increased street parking needs related to having multi-renters in the new build, especially if there is more than one occupant and/or visitor who owns a vehicle in each unit and are in need of more parking spots than what can be supported in the proposed build. Street parking on this block of McMillan Avenue (and other blocks and neighbouring blocks) are already significantly and notoriously difficult to find a spot, an increase in tenants will simply increase the demand and cause more congestion and noise.
o Future rental tenants of the property will likely not be invested in maintaining and preserving the area for current and future home owners within the neighbourhood. This includes general maintenance, landscaping, and keeping the property clean and orderly.
o Increased amount of noise in the neighbourhood related to more tenants living on a piece of property designed for a single dwelling home on a block that is primarily single dwelling homes.
o No mention on room for garbage containers to support the increase of tenants living in the new dwelling including placement of the containers on garbage pickup day and ensuring the area remains clean and free of debris.
o Potential increase in delivery vehicles, including meal deliveries and emergency vehicles, causing an increase in congestion, noise, and parking needs.
• Further to my concerns with the proposed expansion of the lot to 5000 square feet, this puts the neighbouring homes at risk for –
o Damage to foundation at time of demolition and construction – there is no mention on how neighbouring properties will be protected form that risk by the construction company.
o Water damage, especially if the roof and eaves troughs are too close to the
neighbouring properties with the proposed variances– there is no mention on how neighbouring properties will be protected from that risk.
o Water damage to the neighbouring properties if there is not proper space for a sub pump drainage with the proposed variances – there is no mention of how sub pump water drainage will not pose a risk to neighbouring properties.
o Increased noise to neighbouring properties related to air conditioning units – there is no mention on how this risk will be mitigated.
o Decreased privacy to neighbouring properties depending on location of windows and entryways – there is no mention on window and entryway location will ensure the preservation of privacy for neighboring properties.
o Any changes or additions to the entry ways should not cause additional noise to any neighbour and ensure neighbours have access to their properties at all times.
o Building closer to the neighbouring homes puts all homes (including the new build) at risk to access for maintenance and damage repair, examples include – but are not limited to - roofs, eaves troughs, siding, landscape.
o Noise, congestion, and debris related to demolition and construction.

I implore for the developers to either –
• Consider preserving the current structure of the house to maintain the character of the current neighbourhood, or
• Build a structure within the current zoning by-laws.
I am hopeful that my opposition will be reviewed and all matters considered and taken seriously with the decision of city officials to not grant approval on expanding the size of the potential new dwelling.
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2025, 7:27 PM
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Screw it, I took a vacation day next Wednesday so I can go to the appeal hearing. Someone needs to stand up to these NIMBY's. Canada is about to be hit by US Tariffs, economists are warning about mass unemployment, and City Council is sitting here debating whether the "character of the neighbourhood" is a legitimate reason to block new housing construction during the middle of a housing crisis.
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Just wait until as of right 4-plex bylaw comes into force!
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2025, 10:47 PM
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Screw it, I took a vacation day next Wednesday so I can go to the appeal hearing. Someone needs to stand up to these NIMBY's. Canada is about to be hit by US Tariffs, economists are warning about mass unemployment, and City Council is sitting here debating whether the "character of the neighbourhood" is a legitimate reason to block new housing construction during the middle of a housing crisis.
Good for you! What a crock her whole argument is. You live one block off of the Corydon strip and expect to have it frozen in time? Sad thing is with ward based council seats, half of the people we elect piss their pants when they hear NIMBY complaints and vote down these proposals (Mayes and Orlikow are probably the worst for this).
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I don’t know it’s a tough one, there’s already three buildings on it. she makes lots of valid points, parking, privacy, increased traffic and noise. Privacy would be the big one for me. I wouldn’t want a bunch of people looking down into my backyard.
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^then you move. End of story.
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^then you move. End of story.
Or you defend your neighborhood. These are historic homes at this point no? There has to be some standard to maintain some of the existing feel of the neighbourhood the original residents bought into. They pay taxes too. And they don’t pay them so someone having dinner on Corydon has a place to park.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2025, 3:40 PM
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The street is public property...the person parking there pays for it as much as she does, and she has no more right to park there than anyone else.

There can be no expectation that the neighbourhood you live in will not change...the world changes...needs change....communities change....its not 1912 anymore.

old houses are not historic homes.
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Or you defend your neighborhood. These are historic homes at this point no? There has to be some standard to maintain some of the existing feel of the neighbourhood the original residents bought into. They pay taxes too. And they don’t pay them so someone having dinner on Corydon has a place to park.
Change is scary but if we don't get used to it we're gonna get left behind as a city and a country. If we don't build more we'll end up like Halifax: low salaries and high housing prices. Not to mention the homeless issue, not that anyone close to homeless would be able to afford living a new build 4plex lol, but we need the housing stock to keep up with the supply side of the equation.

This lady's argument rests on a lot of maybe's and what-ifs. With the sorry state of housing in Canada we are gonna need to adjust our expectations. More housing in the city is worth someone being able to see me grill corn in the backyard sometimes.

Also, in the current era of tariff threats and economic sluggishness, do you really want to contribute to a culture of government meddling in industry, especially for such petty issues? People need the work and we need the economic activity.
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Or you defend your neighborhood. These are historic homes at this point no? There has to be some standard to maintain some of the existing feel of the neighbourhood the original residents bought into. They pay taxes too. And they don’t pay them so someone having dinner on Corydon has a place to park.
Look she's fully within her rights to voice her concerns about privacy etc. But it's a hell of a stretch to suggest that this modest, 3-storey 4-plex is destroying the character of the neighbourhood when the property backs onto the Corydon commercial strip and I count 5 apartment buildings of a similar height within one block, all of which are more than 100 years old.
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Change is scary but if we don't get used to it we're gonna get left behind as a city and a country. If we don't build more we'll end up like Halifax: low salaries and high housing prices. Not to mention the homeless issue, not that anyone close to homeless would be able to afford living a new build 4plex lol, but we need the housing stock to keep up with the supply side of the equation.

This lady's argument rests on a lot of maybe's and what-ifs. With the sorry state of housing in Canada we are gonna need to adjust our expectations. More housing in the city is worth someone being able to see me grill corn in the backyard sometimes.

Also, in the current era of tariff threats and economic sluggishness, do you really want to contribute to a culture of government meddling in industry, especially for such petty issues? People need the work and we need the economic activity.
Good assessment. My big concern though is that we are addressing the housing crisis by converting Canada into a nation of renters. We need these fourplexes to be condos, not rentals. If ownership becomes completely out of reach for the middle class and rent-seeking owners own all the housing, you don't have a middle class.
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Good assessment. My big concern though is that we are addressing the housing crisis by converting Canada into a nation of renters. We need these fourplexes to be condos, not rentals. If ownership becomes completely out of reach for the middle class and rent-seeking owners own all the housing, you don't have a middle class.
One of the best ways to make owner-occupied homes (condos/houses) more affordable is to build more rental housing. The rental market and ownership market are very interconnected. When more rental units are built, the cost of renting goes down (due to supply and demand) which makes it easier for renters to afford a downpayment on a house/condo. Cheaper rent also results in people renting for longer, which puts downward pressure on house prices/availability. One of the major causes of the housing crisis in Ontario/BC is that because it costs $2500/month to rent a 1-bedroom apartment, people are willing to pay whatever it costs to get out of the rental market. To us it seems insane to spend $1.5 million on a house, but when you're paying $2500/month in rent for a 1-bedroom apartment, spending over $1 million on a house seems justified.
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Some updates on 157 Scott St (former E-Mart Groceries):

It looks like the existing fire-damaged building will be demolished and replaced with a 2-story mixed-use building (one commercial unit on the ground floor and one 2-bedroom apartment on the upper floor).

The to-be-built building is being advertised on realtor.ca:
https://www.realtor.ca/map#ZoomLevel...Listings=false

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As far as I can tell, there are no variances required for the building. The property was already rezoned to C1 (commercial) in February 2023. It looks like a development permit was obtained in October 2023 and a demolition permit in November 2024. I walk by the building regularly and I've noticed a generator and tarp over the entrance of the building for the past few weeks. I'm guessing that this is asbestos removal going on.

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that is awesome news...floor plan shows a corner store layout, but I guess it could be anything if it's being sold.

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that is awesome news...i wonder if the same family is building it.
The property was up for sale about a year ago so I doubt it. It seems the property has been bought by a developer.
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Riverbank stabilization has started at 269 River Ave:

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I see Hecate got himself banned. Last I saw he was posting some tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff in the Canadian political threads. Wonder what finally got him the boot?
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