Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[Blah_Amazing]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Lmao they're really trying to claim that it's not because Salt Lake County is more liberal.

Honestly, how is breaking SLCounty up better for tax payers when they would then have to pay for two county governments and bureaucracies instead of one?

[Boz]

Originally Posted by Blah_Amazing

Honestly, how is breaking SLCounty up better for tax payers when they would then have to pay for two county governments and bureaucracies instead of one?

Only people who love to lick the boots of their Masters. And there are a handful of them on these boards, no doubt. They'll be offended that I said that... and it's always a good laugh.

[rockies]

There is a temple construction account that was recommended to me on instagram and they posted this urban looking rendering for a temple in Brussels Belgium. 25.5k Sq ft

What a missed opportunity to do something like this at 95 S State... I am not LDS so I am not super knowledgable on the temples and I do know that 95 S State is a meetinghouse and that those are different - but it would have been much cooler to have something like this aesthetically. I am a fan of the stonework and general look of what we did get, this just seems much more pedestrian oriented for a very prominent location. The church seems extremely unpredictable when it comes to their buildings lmao



I feel like I have vaguely heard of a handful other 'urban' purpose built temples and chapels but can't remember them right now, I would be curious if anyone has info

Edit: Actually 95 S State meetinghouse looks so similar to the Manhattan temple (that is currently closed for major renovations to the facade). I'll spare most of you but images of before and after below. I am puzzled why they would make 95 S State look like the Manhattan temple only to abandon that design philosophy right after lol maybe a renovation like this is in 95 state future

[mstar]

Originally Posted by rockies

There is a temple construction account that was recommended to me on instagram and they posted this urban looking rendering for a temple in Brussels Belgium. 25.5k Sq ft

What a missed opportunity to do something like this at 95 S State... I am not LDS so I am not super knowledgable on the temples and I do know that 95 S State is a meetinghouse and that those are different - but it would have been much cooler to have something like this aesthetically. I am a fan of the stonework and general look of what we did get, this just seems much more pedestrian oriented for a very prominent location. The church seems extremely unpredictable when it comes to their buildings lmao



I feel like I have vaguely heard of a handful other 'urban' purpose built temples and chapels but can't remember them right now, I would be curious if anyone has info

Edit: Actually 95 S State meetinghouse looks so similar to the Manhattan temple (that is currently closed for major renovations to the facade). I'll spare most of you but images of before and after below. I am puzzled why they would make 95 S State look like the Manhattan temple only to abandon that design philosophy right after lol maybe a renovation like this is in 95 state future

The church has a few Urban type temples around the world. They have had one in Hong Kong for quite a few years. Other Urban Temples include:

Bengaluru India - under construction
Bangkok Thailand

These are pretty cool structures they way they are built in dense urban areas. Beautiful architecture as well.

[rockies]

Originally Posted by mstar

The church has a few Urban type temples around the world. They have had one in Hong Kong for quite a few years. Other Urban Temples include:

Bengaluru India - under construction
Bangkok Thailand

These are pretty cool structures they way they are built in dense urban areas. Beautiful architecture as well.

Will def check out! Thanks for the info

[Comrade]

I wonder how much housing prices are torpedoing Utah's external growth:



Utah is once again kinda proving to be an anomaly in growth.

Despite the state again being one of the fastest growing, most that growth remains internal and again due to the high birthrate.

The state overall lagged significantly behind their regional peers in external growth. In fact, a net more moved into West Virginia in 2024 than Utah.

I'm sure plenty will like this as we've been conditioned to believe outsiders are bad but it's interesting the state can only have a net increase of 3,000 in domestic migration and still add 60,000 people.

That's a lot of babies lol

[i-215]

Originally Posted by Blah_Amazing

Honestly, how is breaking SLCounty up better for tax payers when they would then have to pay for two county governments and bureaucracies instead of one?

It's not.

It's simply the typical partisan selfishness of late (e.g., "we don't like having to share our county with [the opposing political party]. We want our OWN tree fort!")

There's nothing to gain. SLCo is nowhere near big enough to justify splitting. There are 38 more populous counties.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Comrade

I wonder how much housing prices are torpedoing Utah's external growth:



Utah is once again kinda proving to be an anomaly in growth.

Despite the state again being one of the fastest growing, most that growth remains internal and again due to the high birthrate.

The state overall lagged significantly behind their regional peers in external growth. In fact, a net more moved into West Virginia in 2024 than Utah.

I'm sure plenty will like this as we've been conditioned to believe outsiders are bad but it's interesting the state can only have a net increase of 3,000 in domestic migration and still add 60,000 people.

That's a lot of babies lol

I have some questions about the accuracy of this. Look at California. They lost net 240,000 people to outmigration but still gained 233,000 people total?

[mstar]

Yeah, I wonder how accurate that report is about how many people have moved to Utah. I meet people all of the time that have moved here from other states. I find it hard to believe that there were only 3000. I bet there were 3000 new people that moved in last year in St. George alone. Heber City has also had a lot of new in-migration.

[Comrade]

It's a net, so 3,000 net. Could have been 25,000 new people moved to Utah and 22,000 moved out.

[RC14]

The first map is also net domestic migration so it's not including immigration.

[Orlando]

I think those maps are confusing. Maybe it's just me, though. I can't tell if California lost people or gained people.

[RC14]

^
My understanding is that Americans are leaving California but they are gaining population due to immigration.

[rockies]

Very excited about the trolley square apartments potentially getting going. The design is definitely underwhelming compared to the previous proposal, though. I think it will still look pretty nice if it is a fully brick facade. I suppose it makes sense to not include retail in this development as they want this to provide a larger customer base for their existing struggling retail spaces

Presumably looking northeast


I noticed the pedestrian bridge in the bottom right corner, and the letters at the bottom look like upside down 600 south. This is what is facing the mall -edit: maybe this is a place there should be a midblock pedestrian connection :?

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Orlando

I think those maps are confusing. Maybe it's just me, though. I can't tell if California lost people or gained people.

I actually like the maps; I'm a data person. It's a good way to understand the details of the data. I guess most of the country thinks CA is shrinking because net domestic flow is negative. That's just one element of population change, not the full picture.

The map on the right is total population change, they added over 200,000 people last year. Utah added 60,000 total new people.

The map on the left is just showing net change of domestic migration all people in and all people out added to together.

[mattreedah]

Originally Posted by mstar

Yeah, I wonder how accurate that report is about how many people have moved to Utah. I meet people all of the time that have moved here from other states. I find it hard to believe that there were only 3000. I bet there were 3000 new people that moved in last year in St. George alone. Heber City has also had a lot of new in-migration.

I moved back to Utah from Arizona. So my family of 3 is somewhere in the stat, maybe.

[Orlando]

This link says that Utah was the fastest growing state from 2010 to 2023:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/fastest-growing-states

[IMG]1. Utah
Utah was the fastest-growing state in the U.S. from 2010 to 2023, with a total growth of 23.88% during that time. Utah's 2023 annual growth rate is 1.5%. Unlike other rapidly growing states, whose growth is primarily due to migration from other states, Utah's growth is largely the result of the state's high birth rate of 14.9 per 100,000 residents. About 62% of Utah's residents are Mormon, who have an average of 3.4 children compared to 2.1 children among all American adults.[/IMG]

[Atlas]

Construction of the U's new baseball stadium is well underway:

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Orlando

This link says that Utah was the fastest growing state from 2010 to 2023:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/fastest-growing-states

[IMG]1. Utah
Utah was the fastest-growing state in the U.S. from 2010 to 2023, with a total growth of 23.88% during that time. Utah's 2023 annual growth rate is 1.5%. Unlike other rapidly growing states, whose growth is primarily due to migration from other states, Utah's growth is largely the result of the state's high birth rate of 14.9 per 100,000 residents. About 62% of Utah's residents are Mormon, who have an average of 3.4 children compared to 2.1 children among all American adults.[/IMG]

Makes perfect sense, the youngest state population means a lot of kids are being born. The growth problems are mostly homemade in Utah, guess people can stop complaining about CA residents overtaking SLC.

[Paniolo Man]

Stadler Expansion is well underway: