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[Malcsta]

What exactly is this development rumored to be? Apartments?

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by Malcsta

What exactly is this development rumored to be? Apartments?

The lot behind Granite Curling club was one of the city-owned lots (the land is not owned by the curling club) that was identified for affordable housing development. There was a list of identified properties in a council meeting a few months ago but I can't find it right now.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

The lot behind Granite Curling club was one of the city-owned lots (the land is not owned by the curling club) that was identified for affordable housing development. There was a list of identified properties in a council meeting a few months ago but I can't find it right now.

Found it:

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/Vie...onId=&InitUrl=

"That the Chief Administrative Officer be delegated the authority to declare the
following City-owned properties intended for affordable housing as surplus,
subject to the circulation requirements set out in the Declaration as Surplus and Sale of Property Policy:

i. 825 Tache Avenue
ii. 795 William Avenue
iii. 395 Pacific Avenue
iv. 425 Osborne Street
v 1350 Pembina Highway
vi. 545-569 Watt Street
vii. 22 Granite Way"

[cllew]

I have always wondered why the city leases space for the traffic services truck parking compound on Archibald north of Marion and not develop the old EK public works yard at 545/569 Watt.

Right now there is a public non profit group leasing the former EK police station, Parks has a small warehouse and a mothballed ambulance station all facing Watt St. Behind that there is a large fenced compound that is next to unused.

[ColdRain&Snow]

^ Top Row (left to right): 1025 Pembina Hwy (under construction), 25 Station Place (under construction), Market Lands (under construction), 300 Saint Mary Ave (under construction).

Middle Row (left to right): Maclaren Hotel addition (probably dead), 165 Provencher (proposed), 109 Mayfair Ave (under construction), 127 Bannatyne Ave (under construction).

Bottom Row (left to right): 1819 Pembina Hwy (proposed), 221 Stradbrook Ave (completed), former Windsor Hotel (187 Garry St) (proposed), 320 Colony St (completed), 308 Colony St (under construction), 290 Colony St (completed).

[Sheepish]

Don't forget the ARC on Pembina.

[Malcsta]

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[1ajs]

The west tower if i recall they partnerd with truenorrh for a residential build if i recall

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by bon_vivant

I think it's Hyatt's trendy boutique brand. Geared towards the hipster crowd.

Each of the big chains has some version of this concept. Hilton has Spark, Starwood/Marriott has Moxy. Alt is basically the same idea.

The idea is typically an urban location, smaller but boldly designed rooms, with bar/lounge spaces integrated with the lobby area, often with some sort of nightlife type programming (e.g. DJ nights) and a grab-and-go convenience store during the day.

Typically no pool, no free parking (and perhaps no onsite parking at all), no room service or full-service restaurant. Even little amenities are skimped on (e.g. often no iron or ironing board). Check-in may be via a tablet or app, so limited front desk staff. Some have alternating-days or by-request housekeeping.

Target market is usually short-stay millennial/gen-z personal travellers. Competes against airbnbs as much as other hotel chains.

[bon_vivant]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

Each of the big chains has some version of this concept. Hilton has Spark, Starwood/Marriott has Moxy. Alt is basically the same idea.

The idea is typically an urban location, smaller but boldly designed rooms, with bar/lounge spaces integrated with the lobby area, often with some sort of nightlife type programming (e.g. DJ nights) and a grab-and-go convenience store during the day.

Typically no pool, no free parking (and perhaps no onsite parking at all), no room service or full-service restaurant. Even little amenities are skimped on (e.g. often no iron or ironing board). Check-in may be via a tablet or app, so limited front desk staff. Some have alternating-days or by-request housekeeping.

Target market is usually short-stay millennial/gen-z personal travellers. Competes against airbnbs as much as other hotel chains.

Yeah... Aloft hotels (W Hotels offshoot) have a similar vibe. If the city I'm visiting has one, I usually like to stay there. Not too expensive, cool decor... and always a great bar!

[trueviking]

^ isn’t that the same as ALT? Expensive and no amenities but it makes you feel cool?

[bon_vivant]

Originally Posted by trueviking

^ isn’t that the same as ALT? Expensive and no amenities but it makes you feel cool?

No

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Right after the city gifted them the club for $1. Pretty sad and selfish.

but parking is an issue for these facilities and taking it away is short sited when u wana have a ternimint and people from around the city and theres no where to park we do things with no planning

[WinCitySparky]

Then maybe dump the Beer Can and put up a parking lot there. They can’t have it all.

[1ajs]

woulda imagin theyre on shoe string budgets and think inside a box and dont relize they have options like talking to GWL about an agreement for x number of spots in the evening as part of community development program and get sponsorship outa them ect

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

but parking is an issue for these facilities and taking it away is short sited when u wana have a ternimint and people from around the city and theres no where to park we do things with no planning

I think part of the problem is automatically equating "affordable housing " with "public housing" and "tenement" (which has it's own definition, but has come to be associated with poverty and crime). The need for affordable housing is great, so IMO people going to the Granite can find parking a little further away and walk.

[bon_vivant]

Originally Posted by trueviking

How is it different. Isn’t that their whole deal?

I never stayed at the Alt so I couldn't say. Aloft has all the amenities you'd expect from a typical hotel, except for a restaurant and room service—which I never use. Why eat at the hotel restaurant when there are better and cheaper local options nearby? Some hotels have pools. Some have free parking. The bars have a chill rec-room atmosphere. Nice rooms with very comfortable beds. Prices can be a bit higher than the average budget hotel, but not outrageous. It was one of the few relatively affordable options when we stayed in Brooklyn a number of years ago. Anyway... I won't go on because I'm not their brand ambassador. There's no crime in wanting to stay at a fun hotel from time to time, it's not about "feeling cool" (whatever that means). Not everyone wants to stay at the Holiday Inn Express with noisy families and cranky business travellers.

[EndIt]

Originally Posted by pspeid

I think part of the problem is automatically equating "affordable housing " with "public housing" and "tenement" (which has it's own definition, but has come to be associated with poverty and crime). The need for affordable housing is great, so IMO people going to the Granite can find parking a little further away and walk.

I think he was talking about the parking issues related to holding curling tournaments at Granite. The club needs parking for out of towners, etc.

[WinCitySparky]

The idea to work with GWL is a good one but questionable whether they would be willing

[pegster]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Then maybe dump the Beer Can and put up a parking lot there. They can’t have it all.

The Beer Can only runs May-September, the rest of the year (i.e., during peak curling time), that lot on the east side is a parking lot for the club.