SAN ANTONIO | The Santa Rita | 10 FLOORS | 118 FEET | Approved

[texboy]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Here's the article from June, 2023 announcing the approval of this disappointing building. It's difficult to tell from the renderings if the Tower will be visible from the twisty red sculpture on the northwest corner of Market and Losoya. I hope so.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/n...sfair-development-gets-key-approval.html


https://media.bizj.us/view/img/12542162/hemisfaird1d2semiaerial.jpg


https://media.bizj.us/view/img/12542161/hemisfaird1d2seaerial.jpg

This is a heinous crime. HEINOUS.

[AwesomeSAView]

Originally Posted by The Model

I'm not sure why were worried about the view of the Tower of America. If we would have got the 29 story building approved there be absolutely no view of the Tower except for the in between view.

LOL You are so correct The Model! I thought the same thing. Everyone just likes to find issues. I think it is human nature for people to be constantly complaining about something, especially in this day and age!!!

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView

LOL You are so correct The Model! I thought the same thing. Everyone just likes to find issues. I think it is human nature for people to be constantly complaining about something, especially in this day and age!!!

Please don't make such bumper-sticker-like blanket statements. It's not "human nature for people to be constantly complaining about something." Not everything is a black and white situation. We're not discussing politics, we're discussing architecture. I have made the case (and others have expressed similar sentiment) that this building would be OK in a different location. But this is a very special location in San Antonio specifically because of the view of the Tower of the Americas and the prominence of the location in downtown San Antonio. A very bland building is going to block the view of a San Antonio landmark from a high-pedestrian-traffic area. I don't find that to be the best use of this space. It's a nuanced discussion, and people are allowed to find issues and express their views on them. In this case it is very justified. If people didn't express their views about architectural proposals, we'd end up with even more bland or inappropriate buildings than we already do, or more landmarks destroyed like the old Penn Station in New York.

I am not excited about this proposal at all for the reasons I have expressed rationally and sensibly. I'm not "just finding issues" because I like to "constantly complain about something." It's ironic that you make a black and white accusation like that about a discussion that has included a lot of well-explained rationale for the opinions that people have expressed about this proposal.

With that said, taking everything into consideration and weighing all the factors involved, this building will be a letdown in this location.

[The Model]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Please don't make such bumper-sticker-like blanket statements. It's not "human nature for people to be constantly complaining about something." Not everything is a black and white situation. We're not discussing politics, we're discussing architecture. I have made the case (and others have expressed similar sentiment) that this building would be OK in a different location. But this is a very special location in San Antonio specifically because of the view of the Tower of the Americas and the prominence of the location in downtown San Antonio. A very bland building is going to block the view of a San Antonio landmark from a high-pedestrian-traffic area. I don't find that to be the best use of this space. It's a nuanced discussion, and people are allowed to find issues and express their views on them. In this case it is very justified. If people didn't express their views about architectural proposals, we'd end up with even more bland or inappropriate buildings than we already do, or more landmarks destroyed like the old Penn Station in New York.

I am not excited about this proposal at all for the reasons I have expressed rationally and sensibly. I'm not "just finding issues" because I like to "constantly complain about something." It's ironic that you make a black and white accusation like that about a discussion that has included a lot of well-explained rationale for the opinions that people have expressed about this proposal.

With that said, taking everything into consideration and weighing all the factors involved, this building will be a letdown in this location.

Oh ok, then I totally agree with you. My apologies I misunderstood your comment about the view. I 100% agree with you. I would rather have the view of the tower then that 10 story building that belongs at the Pearl Brewery or Medical Center. Also this building is the background view for concerts now. A few weeks ago Jazz Alive was in the park and the concert stage was in front of this proposed location. This building is not a great backdrop for concerts and the lawn as well. We really needed an iconic building in this location.

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by The Model

Oh ok, then I totally agree with you. My apologies I misunderstood your comment about the view. I 100% agree with you. I would rather have the view of the tower then that 10 story building that belongs at the Pearl Brewery or Medical Center. Also this building is the background view for concerts now. A few weeks ago Jazz Alive was in the park and the concert stage was in front of this proposed location. This building is not a great backdrop for concerts and the lawn as well. We really needed an iconic building in this location.

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[ahealy]

So, uh, what's the deal with this one???

[texboy]

Hopefully deader n' a doornail. I believe someone on another thread said this one had been put on hold.

[JACKinBeantown]

I'd actually prefer it if they were to just leave it as unbuilt park space. It would create a nice, inviting opening to the Better Than Average Lawn as well as preserve the view of the Tower. There are plenty of places in downtown SA to build condos and hotels; it doesn't need to be there.

[ahealy]

Yeah, this is/was pretty horrible. I'd love to see something at least 30 storeys go up here...and with a pointed roof or spire

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by ahealy

Yeah, this is/was pretty horrible. I'd love to see something at least 30 storeys go up here...and with a pointed roof or spire

I like how you agreed with me ("Yeah") and then said the exact opposite of what I said.

[SpiritofSeguin]

It’s been poured in with concrete and turned into parking. Exactly what downtown needed, of course.

[ahealy]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

I like how you agreed with me ("Yeah") and then said the exact opposite of what I said.

LOL -- I got towers on the brain, Jack! But fr, a tree filled park or lawn situation would also be really nice as well. Perhaps a giant sculpture like Dallas' eye

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by ahealy

LOL -- I got towers on the brain, Jack! But fr, a tree filled park or lawn situation would also be really nice as well. Perhaps a giant sculpture like Dallas' eye

https://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/giant-eyeball.jpeg