BC Political Discussion: Election 2024 & 43rd Parliament

[Bcasey25raptor]

43 votes left to count in Guildford, NDP now lead by 18 votes. Calling it. NDP Majority government is confirmed but just barely

[Migrant_Coconut]

Will Kelowna flip? Place your bets.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

An NDP majority gov't isn't good news for much of the province. They don't need the Greens to help them kill off our resource industries, they did that quite well on their own.

What's wrong with the NDP? Too YIMBY for your tastes?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Will Kelowna flip? Place your bets.

No, what do I win?

[Bcasey25raptor]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Will Kelowna flip? Place your bets.

No but it will go to a judicial recount

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

What's wrong with the NDP? Too YIMBY for your tastes?

If you’re fine taking us from a Horgan balanced budget to an Eby deficit blowout, have at it. If you’re good with our resource industries withering, Eby’s your man

And yes, I’m aware Rustad (stupidly) proposed big deficit spending but am confident it wouldn’t have been followed through in. Eby is just lucky the election wasn’t next year when the B.C. economy will really be in the shitter.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

If you’re fine taking us from a Horgan balanced budget to an Eby deficit blowout, have at it. If you’re good with our resource industries withering, Eby’s your man

And yes, I’m aware Rustad (stupidly) proposed big deficit spending but am confident it wouldn’t have been followed through in. Eby is just lucky the election wasn’t next year when the B.C. economy will really be in the shitter.

So you voted Con then? Climate denying anti-vax kooks?

I'm not here to defend Eby's deficit. Everything is the context of a 2 party choice.

Blaming Eby for our resource industry issues comes out of left field... what's your source on this?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

And yes, I’m aware Rustad (stupidly) proposed big deficit spending but am confident it wouldn’t have been followed through in.

So you're saying Rustad's a liar? Or stupid? (To be fair, it's not either/or in his case). The massive Conservative deficit didn't include a bunch of big ticket items they threw in at the last minute without any costing, and included a future economic growth rate that is much higher than any credible analysis suggests should be relied upon.

It'll be interesting to see if the party can hold together and form a credible opposition, spanning a range from ex BC United centrists to fall-off-the-edge-of-the-flat-earth conspiracists.

A quick scan of the results seems to support the idea that the Conservatives might have picked up two more seats, without the independent candidates taking some votes, but equally, there appear to be four or five where the NDP might have won if there hadn't been a Green candidate in the riding.

The collapse of many of the resource industries in BC - especially forestry - has almost nothing to do with provincial government, and is the result of a falling lumber market, US tariffs and the devastating impacts of climate change and forest fires.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

So you're saying Rustad's a liar? Or stupid? (To be fair, it's not either/or in his case). The massive Conservative deficit didn't include a bunch of big ticket items they threw in at the last minute without any costing, and included a future economic growth rate that is much higher than any credible analysis suggests should be relied upon...

I'm saying he's a politician.

Much in the same way David Eby boasted about their balanced budget two years ago and then subsequently blew it out of the water?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

If you’re good with our resource industries withering...

They did it to themselves - there's nothing left for them to chop down. It's about time BC stopped relying so much on primary sector businesses anyway.

[Bcasey25raptor]

So happy and Relieved Eby and the NDP won a majority government in the end.

Now for 4 more years of peace order and good government

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I'm saying he's a politician.

Much in the same way David Eby boasted about their balanced budget two years ago and then subsequently blew it out of the water?

He didn't.

Right wing commentators like the Fraser Institute, and the Taxpayers Federation have been criticizing him from when he became premier (which isn't two years ago yet) because he was more concerned with delivering services than balancing the budget.

Here's an interview soon after he became premier, that makes that clear.

The province will also continue participating in the push to have the federal government increase its contribution to health-care funding and act as a strong partner in delivering a robust health-care system, Eby said.

In his view the case isn’t weakened by B.C.’s recent announcement that in the first six months of the fiscal year the projected $5-billion deficit had turned into a $5-billion surplus. “So this year we have a surplus,” he said. “Next year we may not, and increasing health-care spending puts pressure on other priority areas that they may have, the education system for example.”

“The goal I have is that we’re here for a long time because we’re pushing for the things British Columbians are prioritizing and we’re delivering by taking action on those initiatives,” Eby said. “That’s why I’ve set out the priority areas that I have of health care, housing, public safety and a clean and fair economy that works for British Columbians.”

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I'm saying he's a politician.

Much in the same way David Eby boasted about their balanced budget two years ago and then subsequently blew it out of the water?

John Rustad recants, apologizes for 'Nuremberg 2.0' comments

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by csbvan

YIMBYism stays, NIMBYism punted, and the most racist and downright batsh*t political party in Canada today is likely to implode as former BC Libs realize who they are sitting next to (hello Brent Chapman and now-defeated maggot Maria Sapozhnikov). Next election Eby will run against a likely unpopular Pollievre government, and his provincial opposition? I don't think the right holds together in BC after this loss. Too wackadoo under Rustad, and the NDP just won in the most hostile, anti-incumbent electoral environment we've ever seen. Centrist revolt coming to the BC Con caucus, especially if they dip in the polls as their backbench espouses absurdities in opposition. Squeaker, but with the first 3-term NDP government in Canadian history, won in this environment, with that flimsy an opposition? Eby's gotta feel pretty relieved.

this, 100%.

Not in love with the BC NDP and maybe the BC Cons/liberals/Socreds will be more mature at the next cycle, but I think BC in the end dodged a bullet for the next few years

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by mezzanine

John Rustad recants, apologizes for 'Nuremberg 2.0' comments

I said right at the beginning that the B.C. Cons had candidates who had said a lot of weird shit. Yet British Columbians voted for them in droves so what does that say about how “successful” David Eby has been as Premier…

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I said right at the beginning that the B.C. Cons had candidates who had said a lot of weird shit. Yet British Columbians voted for them in droves so what does that say about how “successful” David Eby has been as Premier…

I'm just wondering why you are ok with the *leader* of a provincial party open to putting public health officials to trial

[Migrant_Coconut]

They voted in droves because they thought provincial Con = federal Con and are now confused as to why Justin Trudeau is still in power. For a large part of the province, it's that simple.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

They voted in droves because they thought provincial Con = federal Con and are now confused as to why Justin Trudeau is still in power. For a large part of the province, it's that simple.

Yes voters are incredibly stupid (at least when they vote for the right apparently. Thanks for your resounding defence of democracy.

[BaddieB]

If you think about it, this is the most efficient outcome for the NDP. What I found interesting is the NDP had the weakest promises in their campaign. They did not go down the "promise the world and the moon" route the BCC were doing, promising new hospitals and schools and bridges and Skytrains etc etc, because if they did and won re-election there would be a lot of back tracking because of how unrealistic it would be. Why else would they promise BRT instead of Skytrain for the North Shore. They have their majority and don't have an exceptionally long list to promises to keep.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yes voters are incredibly stupid (at least when they vote for the right apparently. Thanks for your resounding defence of democracy.

And that's why you don't cut funding from education.

You don't like Eby. We get it. The majority of voters seem to have disagreed with you even months ago, so Canada being in the middle of a blue wave and BCU collapsing would seem to explain the results much better.