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Old Posted Aug 26, 2024, 3:05 PM
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Does this remind anyone of the Willis (Sears) Tower specifically from the north and south angles?
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I love the width of this building from afar. But I’m still waiting on a new super taller to really define the skyline like the twins did. While, I like this building, I don’t think it is city defining.
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Does this remind anyone of the Willis (Sears) Tower specifically from the north and south angles?
I always think of it as a kind of hybrid between the Hancock and Sears with classic NY art deco massing. Great combo!
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I love the width of this building from afar. But I’m still waiting on a new super taller to really define the skyline like the twins did. While, I like this building, I don’t think it is city defining.
This tower is built in an area of the skyline with equally tall and taller towers. The Twin Towers were built at a time when very few supertalls were built, and only the ESB approaching it in scale, though not even close. Even if those towers had been rebuilt, it's a different time, and a different skyline. The city no longer has a few supertalls on the skyline, it has a supertall skyline.

That speaks more to the city than it does to this building, which is amazing in its own right.



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The widened medians will be a great addition to Park Avenue and will be an addition apropos to this new icon.

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Old Posted Aug 28, 2024, 1:29 AM
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Does this remind anyone of the Willis (Sears) Tower specifically from the north and south angles?
Oh yes! It reminds me of it for sure! And it's my 2nd favorite building in the country behind the Sears tower. Imagine if it had 2 tall antennas like Sears tower haha someone should photoshop that
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A decade ago the skyline from this point wouldn't really even exist. Now it's amazing. Great photo
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i wish they would have kept the sections or whatever offset, it would look better from a distance. i like its looks best up close.
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A decade ago the skyline from this point wouldn't really even exist. Now it's amazing. Great photo
We've become spoiled watching these new towers rise. It's a remaking of the skyline on a scale that probably won't happen again.







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This tower is built in an area of the skyline with equally tall and taller towers. The Twin Towers were built at a time when very few supertalls were built, and only the ESB approaching it in scale, though not even close. Even if those towers had been rebuilt, it's a different time, and a different skyline. The city no longer has a few supertalls on the skyline, it has a supertall skyline.

That speaks more to the city than it does to this building, which is amazing in its own right.



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I get what you're saying about this building not being city-defining like the Twin Towers were. The skyline has definitely evolved, and it's packed with supertalls now. I think that makes it harder for any new building to stand out the way the Twins did. But, on the flip side, it's cool to see how the skyline keeps changing and growing. 270 Park might not define the city, but it’s part of this new era of growth, and I think that’s something to appreciate too.
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I get what you're saying about this building not being city-defining like the Twin Towers were. The skyline has definitely evolved, and it's packed with supertalls now. I think that makes it harder for any new building to stand out the way the Twins did. But, on the flip side, it's cool to see how the skyline keeps changing and growing. 270 Park might not define the city, but it’s part of this new era of growth, and I think that’s something to appreciate too.
But also, it doesn't hurt to be a beast. This tower would absolutely dominate across most skylines in the country. It just happens to be built in a place where multiple towers of similar scale are being built. But make no mistake, they definitely have an impact on the skyline. The more you view the skyline from around the city - not just in midtown Manhattan - you can appreciate that fact.



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Oh yes! It reminds me of it for sure! And it's my 2nd favorite building in the country behind the Sears tower. Imagine if it had 2 tall antennas like Sears tower haha someone should photoshop that
Well...during yesterdays free time I decided to do a couple quick edits of Sears-style spires on 270. The quality of the edits isn't great, nothing too detailed - they're just to get an idea of what your suggestion would look like. I think it stands out more with them...not sure it fits the style though.


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^ Looks more Hancockish.


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Well...during yesterdays free time I decided to do a couple quick edits of Sears-style spires on 270. The quality of the edits isn't great, nothing too detailed - they're just to get an idea of what your suggestion would look like. I think it stands out more with them...not sure it fits the style though.
No way! haha you're amazing! It looks so different with the spires. I think it looks meaner and more aggressive and intimidating. Maybe it's just because the added height they give it, but I love it. Definitely cool to see what it would look like thanks
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^Interesting that the article conveniently ignores the millions of dollars of contributions towards the public realm improvement fund, and the physical area enhancements that came along with the proposal. These pedestrian and transit improvements will only encourage commuters to use more sustainable modes of transport - increasing its offset.

And god forbid we replace old buildings with newer, more energy efficient ones. If it costs the earth anything to do so, we simply shouldn’t. The idea of slating a new development for its ‘embodied energy & emissions’ is valid, but diminishes the kind of steady, reasonable progress that is actually possible - like the area/energy efficiency improvements we’re seeing with 270 Park.

It showcases a purely reductive approach to debating future development in my opinion.
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