Atlanta Project Thread IV

[Kenn]

Irrespective of Dewberry's epic narcissism the rendering contains a practical and pleasing solution to the brutality of the parking deck. In addition to the almost complete disguising of the structure the most surprising design element is the inclusion of a park on the upper deck, turning a net negative into a community amenity and simultaneously negating the heat island effect. Emory midtown and the multiple concrete Chernobyls surrounding the campus should take note, especially since the Stitch will soon abut this area.

[Username123]

Originally Posted by Kenn

…especially since the Stitch will soon abut this area.

Will it?

[AtlHeel]

Originally Posted by Username123

Will it?

I think they're funded for 'engineering' and that phase 1 will happen, but probably not be completed for a long time.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

One thing ive noticed out here is the lack of street parking on many corridors, however I also notice that the streets are not busy enough in many places for 4 lanes.

Has there been a push to allow street parking in more areas across the city? I notice huge deadlines in areas that do not have street parking compared to areas that do.

Has this been talked about?

Broadly speaking, yes, there is discussion on street parking, especially when it would create a buffer between the sidewalk and the road. There are examples of it being added. However there's more discussion and action on road diets that add pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure. Adding more parking will encourage people to drive, so it makes more sense to instead focus on transit, bicycle, and pedestrian infrastructure. Some examples:

https://atldot.atlantaga.gov/programs/renew-atlanta

https://www.midtownatl.com/midtown-alliance/physical-improvements

https://www.itsmarta.com/moremarta.aspx

https://www.atlantadowntown.com/adid/areas-of-focus/capital-projects

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Broadly speaking, yes, there is discussion on street parking, especially when it would create a buffer between the sidewalk and the road. There are examples of it being added. However there's more discussion and action on road diets that add pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure. Adding more parking will encourage people to drive, so it makes more sense to instead focus on transit, bicycle, and pedestrian infrastructure. Some examples:

https://atldot.atlantaga.gov/programs/renew-atlanta

https://www.midtownatl.com/midtown-alliance/physical-improvements

https://www.itsmarta.com/moremarta.aspx

https://www.atlantadowntown.com/adid/areas-of-focus/capital-projects

I get the pushing for other transit modes but Cars are the main source of travel for people, acting like it isn't will not help the economy of the city, they just need to add more street parking in conjunction with road diets, there is way too many dead areas due to lack of parking, compared to cities up north foot traffic is way down due to lack of parking in a lot of areas. Parking is good.

[tinyslam]

What areas do you think lack parking? Most new developments in the city have incorporated deck parking in their builds. If you look at Midtown in particular there used to be a large number of surface parking lots that are now towers with deck parking, and there's a lot more pedestrian activity due to all of the new residences. Downtown still has an overabundance of surface parking lots. I think some street parking in conjunction with road diets and more bike lanes is a good thing when it comes to slowing drivers down and making the city safer for everyone. However I'm not sure of your conclusion that the lack of parking is causing dead areas. It's an interesting perspective though coming from someone new to the city.

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by tinyslam

What areas do you think lack parking? Most new developments in the city have incorporated deck parking in their builds. If you look at Midtown in particular there used to be a large number of surface parking lots that are now towers with deck parking, and there's a lot more pedestrian activity due to all of the new residences. Downtown still has an overabundance of surface parking lots. I think some street parking in conjunction with road diets and more bike lanes is a good thing when it comes to slowing drivers down and making the city safer for everyone. However I'm not sure of your conclusion that the lack of parking is causing dead areas. It's an interesting perspective though coming from someone new to the city.

Just from my adventures through the city during this month ive noticed that majority of Peachtree ST (I notice there's multiple Peachtree's) has no street parking, and assuming this is the city's major strip kind of a killer, even though I notice the A has a lot of Parking garages which is opposite of up north with more surface lots, (I notice way less parking lots here compared to up north which is a great thing)

2nd I assume Spring St is the City's 2nd Major strip also lacks street parking.

I notice down here it's not a big deal especially if you never had it beforehand, there's countless other strips I noticed that has 4-5 lanes with businesses but no street parking, you would see a big jump in Ped traffic in a lot of areas if you added it.

I'll take some picture examples and put some stuff together to show what I mean.

But for the most part I see the city is lively the way you guys do things is different, and I love it, that was just my one gripe I noticed coming from an area where you pull up to the curb and park and hop out and walk around all day.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

I get the pushing for other transit modes but Cars are the main source of travel for people, acting like it isn't will not help the economy of the city, they just need to add more street parking in conjunction with road diets, there is way too many dead areas due to lack of parking, compared to cities up north foot traffic is way down due to lack of parking in a lot of areas. Parking is good.

Lol, no. Parking ruins cities.

[Username123]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

there is way too many dead areas due to lack of parking, compared to cities up north foot traffic is way down due to lack of parking in a lot of areas.

Atlanta has way more parking than cities up north though… even(and often especially) in the dead areas

[shivtim]

New parcel line requested for 1105 Northside, which is currently a closed McDonalds.

"THE CURRENT FULTON COUNTY TAX PARCEL LINES APPEAR TO BE RUNNING ACROSS A PROPOSED NEW BUILDING THAT REQUIRES A NEW PARCEL LINE REQUESTED BY THE CITY ZONING DEPARTMENT."

Anyone know what the building proposal is here?

[Username123]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

2nd I assume Spring St is the City's 2nd Major strip also lacks street parking.

Spring has a ton of parking. It’s in the decks, but more parking is not needed.Also, it’s square in the middle of the midtown CBD and it’s similar to other business districts in that there are large buildings with parking decks rather than street parking. There is plenty of street parking in the many Atlanta neighborhoods that are more residential(which are the ones people hang out in). Check out places like Inman Park, Virginia-Highland, Cabbagetown, and East Atlanta Village if you want to see more of what you’re seeking.

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Lol, no. Parking ruins cities.

No vacant lots & buildings ruin cities, parking does not ruin a city.

Also the photo you linked with those surface parking lots are a result of Razing after white flight occured.

Those buildings weren’t destroyed because of cars, they were destroyed due to lack of care

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by Username123

Spring has a ton of parking. It’s in the decks, but more parking is not needed.Also, it’s square in the middle of the midtown CBD and it’s similar to other business districts in that there are large buildings with parking decks rather than street parking. There is plenty of street parking in the many Atlanta neighborhoods that are more residential(which are the ones people hang out in). Check out places like Inman Park, Virginia-Highland, Cabbagetown, and East Atlanta Village if you want to see more of what you’re seeking.

Oh yea im with the parking decks, im saying that the streets that lack street parking have no street activity, those areas are relatively dead compared to the streets that do like the areas you mentioned.


My point mostly stood for the streets with 4+ lanes, you can easily turn one of those lanes over to on street parking & bike lanes & the sidewalk activity will increase dramatically in alot of areas

[Username123]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

Oh yea im with the parking decks, im saying that the streets that lack street parking have no street activity, those areas are relatively dead compared to the streets that do like the areas you mentioned.


My point mostly stood for the streets with 4+ lanes, you can easily turn one of those lanes over to on street parking & bike lanes & the sidewalk activity will increase dramatically in alot of areas

The lack of activity is much more related to streets like Spring having a ton of office space and relatively little residential depending on the block. Also, it’s a four lane and one way street. That makes it not friendly for walkers.

A one lane reduction wouldn’t be enough to add street parking and bike lanes. But a “complete streets” makeover- making the road one lane in each direction with a middle turning lane and bike lanes on the sides- would make the street more walkable and bikeable without having to add any unnecessary parking.

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by Username123

The lack of activity is much more related to streets like Spring having a ton of office space and relatively little residential depending on the block. Also, it’s a four lane and one way street. That makes it not friendly for walkers.

A one lane reduction wouldn’t be enough to add street parking and bike lanes. But a “complete streets” makeover- making the road one lane in each direction with a middle turning lane and bike lanes on the sides- would make the street more walkable and bikeable without having to add any unnecessary parking.

Lol you know I moved from a legacy city right all we have is one way streets.

One ways dont make a difference for pedestrian traffic that only matters for vehicle traffic.

And of course one lane wouldn’t be enough for what im saying. Im just giving an example.

Bike lanes are cool, but just like up north a very small percentage of people use them. Sidewalk activity is very important for a cities bloodline

[Username123]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

Lol you know I moved from a legacy city right all we have is one way streets.

Right. But they aren’t all four lanes and one way.

Vehicle traffic has a huge effect on pedestrian traffic. Streets like spring and west Peachtree feel unsafe to walkers because of this.

[Username123]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

you can easily turn one of those lanes over to on street parking & bike lanes

Originally Posted by TonyTone

And of course one lane wouldn’t be enough for what im saying. Im just giving an example.

Then that example was bad enough to show that you shouldn’t be taken seriously, you don’t even take your own words seriously. Why even say something that you know doesn’t make sense?

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by Username123

Then that example was bad enough to show that you shouldn’t be taken seriously, you don’t even take your own words seriously. Why even say something that you know doesn’t make sense?

Dude seriously, you’re taking a conversation way to seriously, im just giving an example & you’re taking it to heart.

If you dont know how to have a civil debate just dont join the conversation. No shit you cant fit parking lanes & bike lanes together unless the lane was wide enough. Take it down a notch

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by Username123

Right. But they aren’t all four lanes and one way.

Vehicle traffic has a huge effect on pedestrian traffic. Streets like spring and west Peachtree feel unsafe to walkers because of this.

I walked Peachtree & Spring St, nothing about it feels unsafe to me, maybe if they added some on street parking people would feel safer

But im not gonna keep lamenting on the topic. Im just giving a different perspective, if any of you have lived up north before you would understand what im saying. Point blank

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

I walked Peachtree & Spring St, nothing about it feels unsafe to me, maybe if they added some on street parking people would feel safer

But im not gonna keep lamenting on the topic. Im just giving a different perspective, if any of you have lived up north before you would understand what im saying. Point blank

Hi Tony, welcome to the Atlanta forum. This is the "Atlanta project thread," for posting about proposed and under construction projects. For off-topic discussions about how you'd like to add more parking to the city, please consider posting in the "ATLANTA Infrastucture (Roads, Complete streets, Bike Lanes, Paths)" thread. Thanks!