City of Ottawa

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Yes. They have a waste. But also those wasteful developments still have ridership growing like crazy. It does compensate somewhat for whatever wasteful decisions they make. Compare ridership and growth in Brampton to Ottawa. And that vanity tunnel, wasteful though it is, is still only a small portion of an unsegregated, at-grade LRT line. Also, is it really different from say what we're doing along the Byron Corridor?

Ottawa designed it's system to be as cheap as possible while keeping it grade separated. Maintaining separation is essential to keep average speeds up and reliability up considering how insanely long the line will be.

The Brampton tunnel and Byron tunnels don't compare. Byron is built mostly along former rail corridors with minimal disruptions to existing services, and stations are small open air boxes. Quite a simple set-up for what it is. It didn't add billions to the price tag.

Only in Canada, does a corridor that already gets more ridership than most LRT systems and even some subway systems somehow not warrant subway construction. I'm so glad to see commenters like Recce Martin call out this backwards BS. Rare time the Fords were right.

At the end of the day, Ottawa residents trying to make the case for a bailout by whining about waste in the GTA isn't going to get very far. "You should pay for our waste, because they were allowed to waste a but." Not a winning argument. Especially, with a mostly GTA centric government.

Not saying GTA is wasting money so we should be able to do the same. I'm saying the GTA gets an insane amount of funding, and we should get funding for our needs as well.

Every decision Ottawa makes is nickel and dimed. We have to cut down the project to fit the budget, build our "Chevrolet" LRT system, while the GTA can ask for anything they want with no question. Seems pretty fair to question why the double standard.

Somebody should tell the mayor that, instead of his regular whining, as he tries to get more funding for full Stage 3 extensions. Also ridiculous they can't chunk up extensions into smaller stages. Why can't we go Stage 3 to Fallowfield and Terry Fox. And Stage 4 beyond that?

They wouldn't even do that to prove their sincerity. Went right to the whining. Nobody should take them seriously.

The City did build the budget plan with that in mind, building partial Stage 3, with the rest left for future phases. At this point, Sutcliffe seems to have zero interest in building Stage 3 at all. His whining yesterday seemed to only be about the City's current financial state. I'm not sure he actually requested funding for any specific project (I could be wrong).