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Old Posted Nov 13, 2023, 3:17 PM
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Updated design (Nov 2023)

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And here's the unit mix. Any idea what "Bachelor B.F." means?

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I appreciate the partial heritage preservation, between facadism and full retention, and the set-backs from the heritage facades, but the mid-rise portion still looks quite bad. Needs more glass to "float" above the retail frontage.
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The north western corner looks awful, like an ugly concrete brutalist knockoff.
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And here's the unit mix. Any idea what "Bachelor B.F." means?
Barrier-Free probably.
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As usual in this city, renderings get slightly worse with each passing iteration. That said, I think this is still such a great project. More just like this all up and down Bank Street, please.
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More of this in this part of Bank Street please.

But yes, I agree. More windows, and make the top 2 floors all glass or an even lighter material to break up the mass.
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Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties has filed a proposal to tear down the bulk of the existing two- and three-storey commercial buildings at 178 Nepean St. and 219 and 223 Bank St. and replace them with a mixed-use complex featuring 263 rental suites and nearly 11,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

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Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties has filed a proposal to tear down the bulk of the existing two- and three-storey commercial buildings at 178 Nepean St. and 219 and 223 Bank St. and replace them with a mixed-use complex featuring 263 rental suites and nearly 11,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

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I think they are stretching the definition of "iconic" here...

Agree with others that the mid-rise portion needs different design / cladding / colour.
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A lot of piss and vomit on that 'iconic' stretch of Bank Street...
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Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

Smart Living Properties has filed a proposal to tear down the bulk of the existing two- and three-storey commercial buildings at 178 Nepean St. and 219 and 223 Bank St. and replace them with a mixed-use complex featuring 263 rental suites and nearly 11,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

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Smart Living Properties proposes nine-storey mixed-use complex on ‘iconic’ Bank Street stretch

David Sali, OBJ
January 9, 2024 4:07 PM ET


Smart Living Properties has filed a proposal to tear down the bulk of the existing two- and three-storey commercial buildings at 178 Nepean St. and 219 and 223 Bank St. and replace them with a mixed-use complex featuring 263 rental suites and nearly 11,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

An Ottawa real estate company says it hopes to break ground later this year on a nine-storey development with more than 260 rental apartments on land now occupied by four heritage buildings in Centretown. Smart Living Properties has filed a proposal to tear down the bulk of the existing two- and three-storey commercial buildings at 178 Nepean St. and 219 and 223 Bank St. and replace them with a mixed-use complex featuring 263 rental suites and nearly 11,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space. The project would be among the most ambitious yet for Smart Living Properties, which specializes in building and managing “all-inclusive” apartments – fully furnished and decorated suites in which all utilities, including heat, hydro, water and air conditioning, as well as other amenities such as high-speed internet and smart TVs, are included in the rental price.

Rowland Gordon, the firm’s vice-president of asset management, said Smart Living bought the three parcels of land on Bank and Nepean streets from a private family in the fall of 2021 with the goal of turning the area into a “true community space.” Gordon noted that the neighbourhood has become a haven for artists thanks to the long-standing presence of Wallack’s Art Supplies and Framing store in the three-storey building at the corner of Bank and Lisgar streets.

With that in mind, Smart Living plans to construct a two-floor facility in the Wallack Building, which is part of the redevelopment, where artists can work together on projects and host exhibitions. “We want to maintain that artsy feel,” said Gordon. “Whatever we can (do to) help bring back some life on that block, basically. (Wallack’s) have been a true community staple for many, many years. We’ll have more conversations around that for what the future looks like with them.” The low-rise red-brick buildings that now line the street were built between the 1880s and early 1900s and are designated as “contributing” to the character of the Centretown Heritage Conservation District.

According to a heritage impact statement included with the application, Smart Living intends to retain the existing buildings' exterior facades, which will be “conserved and restored” and integrated into the new structure designed by Woodman Associates Architects. The apartments will range from bachelor suites to three-bedroom units aimed at professionals in various income brackets, Gordon said.

Regardless of the price, however, rents will be all-inclusive, he explained. “There’s a high demand for renters looking for a convenient way to rent, so you only pay one bill,” Gordon said. The proposal currently includes more than 430 spaces for bicycles but no parking lot for cars. Gordon said the company is looking at providing spots for car-sharing services at the rear of the new building, adding the area is within walking distance of a wide range of amenities and well-served by public transportation. “We felt there was sufficient parking around the area for both long-term parking as well as short-term parking,” he said. Gordon said Smart Living also wants the public to help “come up with a cool name” for the building and plans to talk with the Centretown BIA, local community associations and Somerset Coun. Ariel Troster’s office to figure out the best way to do it. “We see it as an iconic destination, and we think that the community deserves to be part of naming this building,” he said. Smart Living is partnering with a number of local investors on the project. The company also has another development proposal in its pipeline for a nine-storey residential complex at 112 Nelson St. that would include more than 400 all-inclusive rental units. Although escalating borrowing costs have caused some developers to sour on major projects over the past couple of years, Gordon said Smart Living is moving “full speed ahead” with its current plans. If all goes according to plan, the new Bank Street development will be ready for occupancy by the fall of 2026, he added. “We’re hoping that by the time we get to summer, we will be in a position to start working through this and getting the property ready for the development process.”

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As someone who lives very close by, this would be a very welcome project. Hopefully the project for the parking lot just behind this one is next, which would make that block of Lisgar feel a lot less desolate along with the Claridge and Soho buildings already there. That reminds me, what is going on (if anything) with the proposal for the southeast corner of Bank/Lisgar? There was a giant sign with a rendering for years which I believe is gone now.

As for this proposal, I'm happy with the choice of lighter brick compared to the first iteration, but I agree with others that it needs a lot more glass on the midrise portion.
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Exactly what's needed to preserve these facades, although the apartments in the 2nd and 3rd floor of the Wallacks building are pretty iconic as well. We'll never see places like those again, and they'll be 'lost to the shifting sands of time' with this demo.

The large arched building is a dump and would be at risk of demo due to neglect, and the north-east corner is a bit dumpy as well.

I really wish this proposal was for Bank/Kent south-west corner. Those buildings are abandoned and REALLY need help.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Exactly what's needed to preserve these facades, although the apartments in the 2nd and 3rd floor of the Wallacks building are pretty iconic as well. We'll never see places like those again, and they'll be 'lost to the shifting sands of time' with this demo.

The large arched building is a dump and would be at risk of demo due to neglect, and the north-east corner is a bit dumpy as well.

I really wish this proposal was for Bank/Kent south-west corner. Those buildings are abandoned and REALLY need help.
I agree. The block with lose a bit of its soul. For me, the interior and exterior are part of what makes them interesting and connects them to the past. That said, this is better than demo by neglect, and it seems they will preserve a bit more than just the facades.

It's not like we're ruing out of parking lots to redevelop, so I do wish we'd see more restorations of these heritage blocks instead of new developments over them.

Minto's Fifth+Bank is a great example of full heritage preservation while adding density.

http://www.chmielarchitects.com/news/fifth-bank-boutique-apartments-in-the-glebe/
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Bleh!
From a design and materials perspective, the revised proposal is a step way down from the original one. Also the average unit size has shrunk. 75% of units are bachelor units. That’s not a bad thing per se, but they are tiny! The average size is 250 sqf with the smallest being 231 sqf. Good thing they come furnished, as I am not sure how one would furnish such a small space. I am sure the shower will not fit tall or large individuals, and the kitchens are pocket size. I do like that the bike storage is indoors and completely enclosed; should help to limit theft. But that is the only positive.
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Plan to revamp downtown Ottawa block sparks debate over intensification
9-storey tower could come to Bank Street between Lisgar, Nepean

Guy Quenneville · CBC News
Posted: Apr 19, 2024 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 5 hours ago


A proposed redevelopment of a downtown Ottawa block is sparking a debate over the merits of intensification, with tenants feeling pushed to the side and the owner saying the project will revitalize the area.

Residents on the east side of Bank Street between Nepean and Lisgar streets, some of whom are longtime tenants, have been asked to move out of their apartments by property owner 211-231 Bank Street Holdings.

The company wants to build 263 new apartment units with retail space on the ground floor. City councillors have yet to sign off on the project.

The company and its development manager, Smart Living Properties, say their goal is a "true community space" that will help with downtown revitalization.

They say the project will replace "dilapidated" business spaces and inject much-needed studio apartments into the market along with accessible multi-room units.

Some would be furnished, others not.

Residents of the relatively low-cost apartments in the existing buildings say the relocation money they've been offered isn't enough and worry some might end up homeless.

While they want the project to include space for those at risk of displacement, the company said it can't cater to everybody.


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pl...ks-debate-over-intensification-1.7172642
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Unpopular opinion, but I'm a little tired of seeing these urban blocks, or any existing legacy housing and commercial space, taken down for a new building while we still have asphalt parking lots all over the place. These old units in character brick buildings from a different era offer more affordable accommodations that a new building can never offer.

If the retail units are vacant, it's probably because the owner a. doesn't want to maintain them and b. isn't looking for new tenants.

We have a housing crisis, but more than that, we have an affordable housing crisis. Putting these people on the street and building a new building with more units, but with prices that will no doubt approach $2,000 for a bachelor only makes things worse.
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We have a housing crisis, but more than that, we have an affordable housing crisis. Putting these people on the street and building a new building with more units, but with prices that will no doubt approach $2,000 for a bachelor only makes things worse.
It will make things worse, temporarily, for those tenants. It will improve the available housing stock in both quality and amount, which is policy.

Too bad, so sad.
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Unpopular opinion, but I'm a little tired of seeing these urban blocks, or any existing legacy housing and commercial space, taken down for a new building while we still have asphalt parking lots all over the place. These old units in character brick buildings from a different era offer more affordable accommodations that a new building can never offer.
Which is a good reason why our modern policies and building methods really ought to re-learn the importance of building small and adaptable interior spaces, instead of just SDM/Rexall-class ones.
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Unpopular opinion, but I'm a little tired of seeing these urban blocks, or any existing legacy housing and commercial space, taken down for a new building while we still have asphalt parking lots all over the place. These old units in character brick buildings from a different era offer more affordable accommodations that a new building can never offer.

If the retail units are vacant, it's probably because the owner a. doesn't want to maintain them and b. isn't looking for new tenants.

We have a housing crisis, but more than that, we have an affordable housing crisis. Putting these people on the street and building a new building with more units, but with prices that will no doubt approach $2,000 for a bachelor only makes things worse.
The city has a housing crisis.... Full stop.

260+ new units will help, the dev is for this lot, and the city doesn't get to pick what gets developed first.

Your continued nimbyism towards any new development that happens to your favoured view of what a city should look like is just laughable.

Also if your so worried about the city of the new units, contact your councillor to use city taxes to subsidize the units.
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It will make things worse, temporarily, for those tenants. It will improve the available housing stock in both quality and amount, which is policy.

Too bad, so sad.
This tends to be my opinion on it too...

Great, some early entrants got in decades ago and are now living in the heart of Centretown for $500/mo while a block away, I pay $1900. If we're talking about fairness, where's the fairness in that?

The other aspect is retail - if we want to get serious about improving vibrancy in Centretown we can't have entire blocks on major streets like Bank almost entirely vacant of retail tenants.

It's easy to feel bad for those being displaced, but overall projects like this align with our goals as a city in terms of housing and revitalization.

Not to mention, someone in that building loves illegally feeding wildlife, leading to toxic pigeon sh*t blanketing the sidewalk and street.
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