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Old Posted Apr 2, 2024, 7:15 PM
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No, a billion just to get from Waterfront to Arbutus/Broadway. Kerrisdale, Marpole, Yaletown and Stanley Park would cost another billion or three, and Boundary is a pipe dream. Edit: And yes, the same study pegs it at 15 km/h on average, which makes the thing even slower than a freaking trolley bus at 20-23 km/h average.
Meanwhile, a plan to replace two obsolete stubs of not-highways with a proper downtown grid only costs 2/5ths of a billion (the repair option has inevitably gotten more expensive too), and the scrapped BC Museum plan only cost 3/4ths of a billion. Both would get infinitely more usage than the streetcar, and so would be much better value for money.

I keep re-linking the thing, and it would be nice if the Rail for the Valley bots would actually read it. The BC government ran the numbers and only came up with 3,900 riders/day - just as many as the bus to Steveston. Show me all the quaint little stations you want, BC is not Ontario, and so they're all going to be near-empty all day.
Speaking of GO though, its recent expansion cost $16.2 billion, or roughly $70 million/km. The interurban from Langley to Chilliwack is roughly 75km long, so that's $5.25 billion... so actually, more like a SkyTrain and a half.

The TCH goes straight through the middle of Surrey, Walnut Grove, Abbotsford and Chilliwack (four of the places we're trying to connect), and is linked by a future high-density BRT corridor to Langley proper. It's the literal definition of "be on the way." OTOH the interurban is in the middle of farmland, makes detours all over the place, adds an hour or two to everybody's trip and thereby fails to serve rush-hour drivers OR urbanism.

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