[Moncton] East (Harrisville, Lewisville, Tankville, Irishtown) Developments

[jnaygull]

I am not much of a NIMBY supporter, but in this case, I agree with them. This is a more "rural" area and those who bought property here more than likely expected it to stay that way. Had this backfilling involved regular townhouses or duplexes, I think it would work for all. But to be surrounded by 6-floor buildings (particularly the house in the upper left corner), I would be all kinds of NIMBY.

When you buy property in the downtown core, you have to accept radical redevelopment change, but when you buy this far from it, there is a reasonable expectation that it will remain, at the very least, light residential.

[Monctoncore]

My view is that, unless you are a house that backs onto the property, you should have no say. There is only one area of this development that I can see some validity to complaining and it’s the small section of land that will have houses in three sides of it, McLaughlin-Xavier-Ashworth. The rest of it is ideal land for this development. People need to understand when you buy a house that backs onto a large plot of land, that there is a probability that it will be developed at some point in the future. Seriously a “blow to their holidays”, increases in crimes and lower property values. They are acting as if people that rent are somehow beneath them. This is something I’m passionate about because I see that argument time and time again.

[jnaygull]

Originally Posted by Monctoncore

My view is that, unless you are a house that backs onto the property, you should have no say. There is only one area of this development that I can see some validity to complaining and it’s the small section of land that will have houses in three sides of it, McLaughlin-Xavier-Ashworth. The rest of it is ideal land for this development. People need to understand when you buy a house that backs onto a large plot of land, that there is a probability that it will be developed at some point in the future. Seriously a “blow to their holidays”, increases in crimes and lower property values. They are acting as if people that rent are somehow beneath them. This is something I’m passionate about because I see that argument time and time again.

Yeah, the argument of lower property values and crime is unjustified. If anything, the surrounding area property value is likely to go up. As far as crime, having a wooded area like that would be more desirable to crime (homeless encampments come to mind). I agree, the McLaughlin-facing properties that'll be surrounded by the 6-floor buildings are the ones that have the biggest case of concern due to privacy.

[Riberview]

There are what.. 6 houses fronting McLaughlin?

Buy them and be done with it.

[MonctonRad]

A couple of renders have popped up of the Greenfoot Energy Systems headquarters building on Chief Noah Augustine Drive, adjacent to the TCH, currently under construction .

[MonctonRad]

The Greenfoot build is coming along very quickly. The structural steel for the warehouse component of the project has been up for several weeks. The concrete office component of the build is now up to the third floor. This entire build is going to have a huge impact in terms of the evolving streetscape along the south side of the TCH for through traffic passing by.

[MonctonRad]

Infinity Aerials photo of the current status of the Greenfoot HQ and warehouse facility next to the TCH.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Infinity Aerials photo of the current status of the Greenfoot HQ and warehouse facility next to the TCH.

Wow that’s a really large building! I’ve heard of that company, but what is it that they do? Also is this property on the native land that was purchased there?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

Wow that’s a really large building! I’ve heard of that company, but what is it that they do? Also is this property on the native land that was purchased there?

Heat pumps. They now have a presence in six provinces and aim for full nationwide expansion. This will be their world headquarters. I hear the attached four storey office building will be quite luxurious.

Yes, the building is on Chief Noah Augustine Boulevard, backing on the TCH.

[lirette]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Heat pumps. They now have a presence in six provinces and aim for full nationwide expansion. This will be their world headquarters. I hear the attached four storey office building will be quite luxurious.

Yes, the building is on Chief Noah Augustine Boulevard, backing on the TCH.

They are doing the majority of the work for the government programs installing heatpumps for lower income homes. The waitlist as of October was at 16,000 so business is definitely booming for them.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This is from Mayor Dawn Arnold's update of the city council meeting this evening. There is a request for rezoning for this development:



This proposal is for the east side of McLaughlin Drive, just to the south of the TCH, and would be eminently visible to passing traffic on the highway.

Looks like 3 six storey apartment buildings, 1 four storey building and a series of townhomes. several hundred new housing units at least.

I imagine there will be more details in the package for the December PAC meeting.

This is being discussed at Moncton city council this evening:

7.1 Rezoning of five PIDs at the North End of McLaughlin South of TransCanada (Master Plan) [Objections Received] Postponed from January 15, 2024 meeting

Rezonage de cinq NID au nord de la promenade McLaughlin, au sud de la route Transcanadienne (Plan directeur) [Motifs d’opposition reçus] – Point reporté lors de la séance du 15 janvier 2024

7.2 Public Hearing – Stop up and close ATMJ future streets off McLaughlin Drive (related to items 7.1) Postponed from January 15, 2024 meeting

Audience publique – Fermeture des rues futures du lotissement ATMJ donnant sur la promenade McLaughlin (points 7.1 ) – Point reporté lors de la séance du 15 janvier 2024

7.3 ATMJ Subdivision – Subject to approval of item 7.1 (five PID’s North End of McLaughlin) Postponed from January 15, 2024 meeting

Lotissement ATMJ – Sous réserve de l’approbation du point 7.1 (cinq NID au nord de la promenade McLaughlin) – Point reporté lors de la séance du 15 janvier 2024

There will be many objectors, some with quite valid reasons. I think this proposal is doomed.

[MonctonRad]

Moncton OK's 18-storey tower, separate housing development neighbours opposed
Councillors give go-ahead for series of housing plans

Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Feb 21, 2024 6:00 AM AST | Last Updated: 3 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-housing-development-tower-1.7120220

City council approved this development last night with some changes to the site plan, and with some conditions.

The largest plan, approved with a 10-1 vote, is for vacant land off McLaughlin Drive for 458 units.

That's a smaller amount than the 512 units opposed by neighbours at a public hearing in January.

Revised plans presented Tuesday reduced the scale of two of the apartment buildings, shifted the site layout to move a building farther from existing homes and had commitments for more fencing.

Revised plans show one apartment building with a smaller number of units, another with one less floor and fences to separate existing homes from new townhouses. (ATMJ Properties Ltd)

The rendering above shows the (revised) development as seen from the TCH.

[lirette]

Ill be honest, once an apartment is over 4 floors and much taller than a house I really dont grasp the difference between 5 floors instead of 6 other than from some ideological standpoint that 6 floors is an urban skyscraper to them or something.

Is 1 floor lower really going to make some substantial difference in sun coming onto their deck or something?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by lirette

Ill be honest, once an apartment is over 4 floors and much taller than a house I really dont grasp the difference between 5 floors instead of 6 other than from some ideological standpoint that 6 floors is an urban skyscraper to them or something.

Is 1 floor lower really going to make some substantial difference in sun coming onto their deck or something?

Generally agreed, although if you are sunbathing on your patio, there would potentially be more eyes watching you from an eight storey tower than a four storey building. Should this make a difference to you? I don't think so, but, such things are subjective.

I doubt the neighbours here were significantly mollified by the slight changes the developer made. I'm happy this is moving forward.

[zostera]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Generally agreed, although if you are sunbathing on your patio, there would potentially be more eyes watching you from an eight storey tower than a four storey building. Should this make a difference to you? I don't think so, but, such things are subjective.

I doubt the neighbours here were significantly mollified by the slight changes the developer made. I'm happy this is moving forward.

We definitely need more housing in the area, so I think this is ultimately good, but as someone who drives through this part of McLaughlin daily I can't help but (somewhat selfishly) fear the traffic repercussions, particularly with the new schools, further developments on Granite, and the inevitable inclusion of more new traffic lights. Any possibility of widening the road to match Elmwood, or is there just not enough space?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by zostera

We definitely need more housing in the area, so I think this is ultimately good, but as someone who drives through this part of McLaughlin daily I can't help but (somewhat selfishly) fear the traffic repercussions, particularly with the new schools, further developments on Granite, and the inevitable inclusion of more new traffic lights. Any possibility of widening the road to match Elmwood, or is there just not enough space?

I am 100% certain you will see a new interchange at McLaughlin and the TCH within five years. It will be interesting to see what sort of a change this will have on traffic patterns in the area.

It would significantly decompress the congestion on Elmwood, but, I would imagine traffic will increase on McLaughlin.

[habs33]

Read in the Moncton subreddit that Royal Oaks golf course is in receivership
https://www.insolvencies.deloitte.ca/en-...aspx?searchpage=Search-Insolvencies.aspx

Apparently Deloitte is running the course for now

[MonctonRad]

Nippon Sushi closes to prepare for new Korean chicken restaurant
Nippon Sushi owner says rising costs and opening of other sushi restaurants caused him to change gears
Author of the article:Sarah Seeley
Published Mar 18, 2024 • 2 minute read
https://tj.news/moncton-miramichi/nippon-sushi-closes-to-prepare-for-new-korean-chicken-restaurant (paywall)


T&T photo

Juhong Kim, owner of Nippon Sushi, said he decided to close the sushi restaurant and open a franchise of a Korean chicken restaurant chain called bb.q Chicken.

Kim said the franchise is building in popularity with 2,000 locations in Korea, 250 in the U.S., and more than 50 in Canada. It will be the first location in Atlantic Canada.

Apparently the sushi market in Moncton is saturated, There are 15 sushi restaurants in the metro area.

[MonctonRad]

Pho Dan Restaurant (authentic Vietnamese cuisine) is opening soon in the Elmwood Plaza.

[MonctonRad]

There is a rumour floating about that the Petro Canada on Shediac Road just beyond the TCH overpass has been sold to Irving and that they intend to turn this property into a Big Stop. According to this rumour, Irving has also purchased substantial land in behind the gas station, close to the Kent Distribution Centre for the expansion.

Has anyone heard anything about this?

This could be true. This land is ideally situated between the Caledonia Industrial Park and the Harrisville Logistics Park. The Moncton East Business Park is also just down the road, so, lots of big rig traffic. I could see Irving being interested.

If they could get an access road directly through to this property from the Caledonia Industrial Park, this would be ideal. I doubt their immediate backdoor neighbour (the Kent Distribution Centre) would object. The only thing they would have to negotiate would be a crossing across the CNR mainline.