Statistics Canada Reports II

[sunsetmountainland]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Say an interesting interview today on BNN today talking about the lower levels of students entering into the country.

Benjamin Tal the Chief Deputy Economist at CIBC said it was great news and long overdue. He stated clearly that these students often go to fly by night colleges and 20% don't even go to class but use it as a backdoor to get into the country. He also stated that they were putting undue pressure on our healthcare system and of course housing crisis and especially rentals as most students rent.

When asked about how businesses would complain about not getting enough workers {as many are foreign students}, he said that was great news. He explicitly said that our high levels of immigration have been hurting our productivity and lowering our standard of living. While other countries with labour shortages have to invest in their workers and new technology to grow their economy all Canada does is import cheap labour which businesses use as an excuse to not invest in their own businesses or work creatively to raise production.

He stated what everyone knows {except Trudeau & Company}........importing cheap labour is a race to the bottom and countries don't get wealthy by cheap labour but rather high productivity which means getting more production out of each worker.

Reducing our student intake by 35% is a good start but only a start. We should be dramatically reducing all of our immigrant numbers by getting rid of family reunification, dropping our immigrant levels by half as well as refugees, cutting our TFW by at least 70% {except seasonal farm workers} and only allowing in students & immigrants who are going into very select areas such as engineering, high-tech, medical care, and construction. Outside of those areas, and perhaps other niche ones, no one should get into the country.

The truth is the government does not care a cent about Canadians it is all virtue signalling. We are just a tool to advance government propaganda.

[Nite]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

There is no two ways around it, our mass immigration has had very detrimental effects of our healthcare, education, social services, and housing affordability. TFW, refugees, and students more so because they offer little back in terms of economic growth and seem to do nothing but suppress our wages and lower our productivity.

As of December 2023 Wages are up 5.4% YoY, probably the highest wage growth in Canadian history is going on right now

On a year-over-year basis, average hourly wages rose 5.4% (+$1.78 to $34.45) in December, following an increase of 4.8% in November (not seasonally adjusted).

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240105/dq240105a-eng.htm

Since the pandemic wage growth has been accelerating with hourly wages being almost 20% higher than pre-pandemic

[sunsetmountainland]

Originally Posted by Nite

Wages are up 5.4% YoY, there is no wage suppression going on in the economy for having such high wage growth, probably the highest in Canadian history right now

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240105/dq240105a-eng.htm

Yes of course wages are up because inflation is out of control! Think about it how is your economic base if you were born in 1960 compared to your economic outlook today? Wages up 5.4% compared to inflation?

[sunsetmountainland]

Originally Posted by Nite

As of December 2023 Wages are up 5.4% YoY, probably the highest wage growth in Canadian history is going on right now



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240105/dq240105a-eng.htm

Since the pandemic wage growth has been accelerating with hourly wages being almost 20% higher than pre-pandemic

I am sorry but I lost my patience for your answer! Your delusional thinking is part of the problem in Canada today! Base your thoughts on truths an facts then you have no problems!

[sunsetmountainland]

Originally Posted by Nite

As of December 2023 Wages are up 5.4% YoY, probably the highest wage growth in Canadian history is going on right now



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240105/dq240105a-eng.htm

Since the pandemic wage growth has been accelerating with hourly wages being almost 20% higher than pre-pandemic

Well the best thing to do here and now is question yourself?

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Nite

As of December 2023 Wages are up 5.4% YoY, probably the highest wage growth in Canadian history is going on right now



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240105/dq240105a-eng.htm

Since the pandemic wage growth has been accelerating with hourly wages being almost 20% higher than pre-pandemic

Are those real or nominal? If they are nominal I would not be bragging about high inflation as a policy success.

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

This because of attitudes like yours that we can't have a real discussion on immigration in Canada. Someone hold an opinion different than your preferred one, therefore xenophobes and racists...

Oh I’m sorry, is my opinion of the CAQ stifling your ability to express yourself?

[ToxiK]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

He said that the CAQ is xenophobic. And that's true.


In 2022, during the election campaign, the Quebec Minister of Immigration, Jean Boullet, said this without blinking an eye:

« 80 % des immigrants s’en vont à Montréal, travaillent pas, ne parlent pas français ou n’adhèrent pas aux valeurs de la société québécoise.»

(“80% of immigrants go to Montreal, do not work, do not speak French or do not adhere to the values ​​of Quebec society.”)

Disgusting. And he was re-elected, of course.

What is disgusting is your tactic, one very often done to discredit Québec in general (especially separatists). You take one declaration from a separatist, a very bad declaration and you make the person who said it all about that declaration. Then you extend that declaration to the whole party (usually the PQ but any party with even the littlest spark of Québec nationalism will do). So, since the whole party is, well, deplorable, then anything that is said about that party is fair since we just proved that it is a racist party and everyone in is is a racist too. Finally, if anyone else (individual or party) agrees with anything the officially racist party says (even if is it the slightest detail), then this person (or party) is also racist and you end up with something like 80 % of Québec being racist and fair game for insults and discredit.

Yes, Boulet's comments were stupid. Not merely misinformed, but stupid. But it was just a couple of sentences in a pretty decent 4 year tenure for him, and he is just one member of the CAQ. Leslyn Lewis of the Conservative Party is pro-life, therefore the whole party is against abortion. If you vote for the Conservative, then you are against abortion and against women. It might even be true even if you merely agree with any Conservative position. Straw man fallacy at its best...

The CAQ will get 50 000 to 60 000 permanent immigrants (after record years), not counting temporary ones, students and refugees. Not bad for a xenophobic party...

[ToxiK]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

Oh I’m sorry, is my opinion of the CAQ stifling your ability to express yourself?

I probably should write more slowly so you can understand...

[Hali87]

Also worth noting that while the average (mean?) wages of permanent employees may be going up, more and more jobs are not permanent but rather contract or freelance (or "temporary"/"term").

In addition to not being captured in those stats, many of these jobs get reduced (or no) benefits, and in many cases pay less than minimum wage - which in most of Canada is around $15/hour.

[Nite]

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

Yes of course wages are up because inflation is out of control! Think about it how is your economic base if you were born in 1960 compared to your economic outlook today? Wages up 5.4% compared to inflation?

Inflation for the same reporting period was 3.4% so wage growth is a full 2% above inflation. Again is probably the highest real wage growth in your lifetime

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240116/dq240116a-eng.htm

anyways i added a trendline to so the acceleration in wage growth in Canada over the last few years

[Nite]

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

I am sorry but I lost my patience for your answer! Your delusional thinking is part of the problem in Canada today! Base your thoughts on truths an facts then you have no problems!

If I am delusional it should be pretty easy for you to show me some evidence that Canadian wage are being suppressed lastely

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

I am sorry but I lost my patience for your answer! Your delusional thinking is part of the problem in Canada today! Base your thoughts on truths an facts then you have no problems!

If you are planning on being a troll, you will face consquences. Consider yourself warned.

[FrAnKs]

Will Quebec reach 9 million before midnight? We should know it soon.

[harls]

Originally Posted by FrAnKs

Only 1500 to go before Quebec hits 9 million.

I think you meant 500, not 1500!

495 now.

9 million by end of day, maybe?

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

What is disgusting is your tactic, one very often done to discredit Québec in general (especially separatists). You take one declaration from a separatist, a very bad declaration and you make the person who said it all about that declaration. Then you extend that declaration to the whole party (usually the PQ but any party with even the littlest spark of Québec nationalism will do). So, since the whole party is, well, deplorable, then anything that is said about that party is fair since we just proved that it is a racist party and everyone in is is a racist too. Finally, if anyone else (individual or party) agrees with anything the officially racist party says (even if is it the slightest detail), then this person (or party) is also racist and you end up with something like 80 % of Québec being racist and fair game for insults and discredit.

Yes, Boulet's comments were stupid. Not merely misinformed, but stupid. But it was just a couple of sentences in a pretty decent 4 year tenure for him, and he is just one member of the CAQ. Leslyn Lewis of the Conservative Party is pro-life, therefore the whole party is against abortion. If you vote for the Conservative, then you are against abortion and against women. It might even be true even if you merely agree with any Conservative position. Straw man fallacy at its best...

The CAQ will get 50 000 to 60 000 permanent immigrants (after record years), not counting temporary ones, students and refugees. Not bad for a xenophobic party...

The CAQ is a political party. It is not the same thing as the Quebec nation. And yet you are suggesting that any criticism of the CAQ is criticism of Quebec as a whole.

We live in a democracy, not a one-party state. Martin and I both live in Montreal, we have every right to disagree with and criticize the governing party. Nearly 60% of people in Quebec did not vote for the CAQ. Deal with it.

And if you have trouble with the fact that people here have opinions that differ from your own, there's always r/quebec... the mods there tend to ban any divergent thinking so you'll be right at home there.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

I am sorry but I lost my patience for your answer! Your delusional thinking is part of the problem in Canada today! Base your thoughts on truths an facts then you have no problems!

You don't have the patience to look at a simple chart?

[harls]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You don't have the patience to look at a simple chart?

Sunsetmountainland simply doesn't have the time to hang around here too long. Just like Halley's comet.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by harls

Sunsetmountainland simply doesn't have the time to hang around here too long. Just like Halley's comet.

Haley's comet used to be considered a bad omen, a harbinger of dark things to come. Sunsetmountainman's appearance usually means that the conversation turns to the worse.

[craner]

Originally Posted by harls

I think you meant 500, not 1500!

495 now.

9 million by end of day, maybe?

392 away now 3:12 pm EST