Downtown Vancouver Updates II - Page 11

theKB · #**201** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

The major redevelopment? Definitely not happening this year, nothing has been submitted to the city. It isn't likely to be anytime soon given the current office market.

So can we expect the bay to leave half their elevators down and no escalator access between several floors down indefinitely. Such a pleasant shopping experience.

jollyburger · #**202** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 2:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by theKB

So can we expect the bay to leave half their elevators down and no escalator access between several floors down indefinitely. Such a pleasant shopping experience.

I guess they are more surprised when they see people coming into their stores

jollyburger · #**203** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 3:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by gaviscon

Anyone have any updates for the Hudson's Bay building redevelopment project? I think construction is supposed to start this year?

Website says 2025 now.

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What Happens Next
The city’s consideration of the application will include a City of Vancouver public consultation to collect feedback. Provided the city approves our rezoning application, we will begin the application for a development permit and a subsequent building permit with the city. Our estimate places the start of construction in 2025.

https://vancouver.thebaybuilding.ca/community/

GenWhy? · #**204** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Website says 2025 now.

https://vancouver.thebaybuilding.ca/community/

Yeah we'll see what the office market is like in 2025 for downtown higher end product. We've switched three office buildings to hotel.

idunno · #**205** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 5:57 PM**

It'd be a great spot for a flagship hotel, that's for sure!

Still looking for a W Hotel in this city.

Spr0ckets · #**206** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Yeah we'll see what the office market is like in 2025 for downtown higher end product. We've switched three office buildings to hotel.

A lot of that happening recently.

It seems like quite a number of developers don't see the office market recovering fast enough any time soon to justify doing more office space, even with the vacancy rate edging downwards in the most recent assessment.

On the flip side, with the recent regulations impacting the AirBnB market and creating (even) more need for hotel space in the city, we should expect to see more hotel component beign added to major developments moving forward, or converted from previously proposed office space.

theKB · #**207** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 7:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by idunno

It'd be a great spot for a flagship hotel, that's for sure!

Still looking for a W Hotel in this city.

The lack of marquis hotels in this city is rather shocking. Loss of the four seaons, although we do have 4 fairmonts in metro vancouver which I believe is one of the highest counts in one metro area in the world.

It's clearly up to the developers what hotel brand they chose to work with but if Vancouver is a "world class city" one would think we would have world class hotels including 5 star properties, which we do not truly have. The rumour way back was that W hotel was going to be in the place of the hotel georgia while it was being renovated/rebuilt.

A marquis hotel property on top of the bay would definitely breathe some life into granville.

Vin · #**208** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by theKB

The lack of marquis hotels in this city is rather shocking. Loss of the four seaons, although we do have 4 fairmonts in metro vancouver which I believe is one of the highest counts in one metro area in the world.

It's clearly up to the developers what hotel brand they chose to work with but if Vancouver is a "world class city" one would think we would have world class hotels including 5 star properties, which we do not truly have. The rumour way back was that W hotel was going to be in the place of the hotel georgia while it was being renovated/rebuilt.

A marquis hotel property on top of the bay would definitely breathe some life into granville.

You can certainly thank Viewcones and other restrictions for that.

whatnext · #**209** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 9:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

You can certainly thank Viewcones and other restrictions for that.

Really, pretty sure Holborn could have built a shorter hotel is was so required on the Bay parkade site they've been holding on forever.

Anyone know if they own the rest of that block which has become an unsightly dump, including the old hostel?

Migrant_Coconut · #**210** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 10:06 PM**

Exhibits A, B, C and D prove that it's entirely possible to build a hotel within the confines of the viewcones. Just have to use a little imagination.

theKB · #**211** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 10:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Really, pretty sure Holborn could have built a shorter hotel is was so required on the Bay parkade site they've been holding on forever.

Anyone know if they own the rest of that block which has become an unsightly dump, including the old hostel?

I believe I remember seeing holborn owns most of the block except for a few parcels?

Its amazing finding articles about the bay parkade and the fact that rezoning inquiries were submitted by holborn back in 2006. Amazing this has been allowed to go on this long.

jollyburger · #**212** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 11:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by theKB

I believe I remember seeing holborn owns most of the block except for a few parcels?

Its amazing finding articles about the bay parkade and the fact that rezoning inquiries were submitted by holborn back in 2006. Amazing this has been allowed to go on this long.

You assume it has more to do with their ability to proceed with the project than anything to do with the city at this point.

jollyburger · #**213** Posted **Jan 11, 2024, 11:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Exhibits A, B, C and D prove that it's entirely possible to build a hotel within the confines of the viewcones. Just have to use a little imagination.

We could build 20 storey underground hotel silos as well. Vivid imagination.

whatnext · #**214** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 1:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

You assume it has more to do with their ability to proceed with the project than anything to do with the city at this point.

Stress on Holborn's ability. To build anything. Easily the city's lamest developer.

Migrant_Coconut · #**215** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 1:49 AM**

They built one ten-floor midrise on Hastings... and that's about it.

Changing City · #**216** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 6:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

They built one ten-floor midrise on Hastings... and that's about it.

Er no, that site is still a parking lot.

Migrant_Coconut · #**217** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 7:09 AM**

Good to know that even their website's full of crap.

madog222 · #**218** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 7:34 AM**

Their site does say proposed development.

Zepfancouver · #**219** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 9:11 PM**

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Feathered Friend · #**220** Posted **Jan 12, 2024, 9:59 PM**

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=220633398

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Six years after the courts ended the legal battle over the Hampstead strata windup at 1188 Cardero, a rezoning proposal has been unveiled for a 22 floor building that includes 198 homes with 20% to be rented at 20% below-market rates.
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=220633398

https://x.com/City_Duo/status/1745928037504577558?s=20