Manitoba Highways

[Dengler Avenue]

Here it is for those too lazy to click inside:

Rail relocation?! I mean, it’s been done before but that may add another layer of complexity…

[Carboy15]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Here it is for those too lazy to click inside:

Rail relocation?! I mean, it’s been done before but that may add another layer of complexity…

Well, the point I am making about having a bypass of morris going east of Morris is that it is more direct as the other bypasses go on the West side of town, going a bit out of the way. But that design isn't as good because you're goimg to need 2 new bridges going over the red river.

And the rail relocation, the overall point is for Hwy 75 to sneak between the tracks as there will be one or two less seperate overpasses that need to be build. But you're right, the rail relocation would be a bit more expensive.

But don't worry, these are a few ideas they could probably do, so it's just a fantasy

[harls]

I'd put a 75 bypass along the western dyke and just swing back to south of town.

[Carboy15]

Originally Posted by harls

I'd put a 75 bypass along the western dyke and just swing back to south of town.

And if so I'd like it to be elevated (it would need to be anyway because of tracks and hwy 23) to also have less chances of the highway being destroyed

[Carboy15]

P.S. This statement is probably obvious anyway lol

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

P.S. This statement is probably obvious anyway lol

It’s M.I.T. Given that they plan to put a traffic light on PTH-75 Saint Norbert Bypass, you may as well be explicit about these things.

[Carboy15]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

It’s M.I.T. Given that they plan to put a traffic light on PTH-75 Saint Norbert Bypass, you may as well be explicit about these things.

At least it is better than the current alignment, which is light after light

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

At least it is better than the current alignment, which is light after light

Unfortunately, this is the prevailing attitude in Manitoba when it comes to infrastructure development.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

At least it is better than the current alignment, which is light after light

Yep.

I'd continue the trajectory of 75 (man.. did they think of this?) to 23 and make an interchange. Swing it south and meet up with the existing 75.

It's like they knew what to do and just said 'screw it, these rubes can figure it out themselves'.

Then rrskylar drove to Grand Forks one day and here you go.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

This PC, Ie: not mine, is giving grief. Uploaded via mobile. My grand Morris Bypass design. I think I still like the east side better, but the west side works.

Interchanges at: North end, PTH 23, south end.

I will say when checking the provincial property map, there is a right of way or something going westward at the south end where I show it splitting off. It at least looks like a right of way. So must have been some plans drawn up at some point.

This is the west dyke option from a few pages back.

I like the eastern route better because it's straighter. But is likely more complex.

[Carboy15]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

This is the west dyke option from a few pages back.

I like the eastern route better because it's straighter. But is likely more complex.

I'm sure that would be the realignment they'd choose over anything. But if they were to make it into a freeway, they'd need two bridges going over railway tracks twice and 3 road interchanges. But probably wouldn't make much of a difference vs the eastern alignment. But the CP line going South East of Morris towards Winkler is a short line, so maybe even on the future 75 alignment, it would be a level crossing, but going over the CP and CN at the same time. I'd expect a bridge.

[Carboy15]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

There, I've finished drawing after thinking for 2 hours. I present to you Morris Thruway for MB-75.
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Là, la job est faite après que j'ai pensé à ça pendant 2 heures. Je vous présente l'Autoroute 75 au milieu du village de Morris.



Ps: Are there franco-manitobans on this forum? Y-a-t-il des franco-manitobains sur ce forum là??

A morris thru way I'm opposed to. It would be more expensive as the town would have to have one side of buildings removed, but it's not impossible to do. The santa lucia and etc would have to be removed for the freeway to be built, and the service roads would be one way, but I guess some texas U-turn interchanges could help a bit, but having to destroy buildings would be the biggest issue. A realignment is a bit out of the way, but better than destroying a town, and that explains why a freeway never happened in Winnipeg

[harls]

I spoke with Dengler in person about this

I think if anywhere.. Brandon should get first dibs on a sunken décarie-esque freeway before Morris.

..Or Winnipeg.

[Biff]

I'm sure it would be cheaper to move half the town of Morris to the left than build a sunken freeway through it.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Biff

I'm sure it would be cheaper to move half the town of Morris to the left than build a sunken freeway through it.

This is probably true. Biff with his big engineering brain.

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by harls

This is probably true. Biff with his big engineering brain.

Or, there's the Wallace, Idaho solution. Have an elevated highway through Morris. Use the inside lanes on each side of Main St.; plus the small grass median for the deck piers. There should be room for one lane of traffic in each direction on Main St. The interchanges would be pretty minimal. On the north end of town; just need SB exit and NB entrance. South end of Morris, SB entrance and NB exit. Manitoba's first elevated highway.

[craner]

So is the election of an NDP government good news or bad news for highway infrastructure development in Manitoba ?

[Carboy15]

If Brandon were to ever get a freeway of any sort, it would probably be comparable to #1 in Swift Current, utilizing slip lanes and diamond interchanges to service roads, or also like the current yellowhead trail. Except in Brandon, I would rather have texas U-turn interchanges to have better access to service roads

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by craner

So is the election of an NDP government good news or bad news for highway infrastructure development in Manitoba ?

I guess we will see. As much as I would like to see that $200M spent on infrastructure, I would also like to see indigenous relationship improved. I don’t want Canada to be like U.S., where highways are nice but also where relationship with visible minorities is sh*t.

Even viewed purely from the perspective of infrastructure improvement, a better relationship with the indigenous community may even be foundational to twinning TCH around Falcon Lake. The twinning on the Ontario side was stalled until Freedom Road for Shoal Lake 39 got built.

Originally Posted by Carboy15

If Brandon were to ever get a freeway of any sort, it would probably be comparable to #1 in Swift Current, utilizing slip lanes and diamond interchanges to service roads, or also like the current yellowhead trail. Except in Brandon, I would rather have texas U-turn interchanges to have better access to service roads

Interchange designs for Brandon (just as with JCT 1 & 16) have been drawn up.
Now, I wonder if the same can be said about Elie and Virden.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Ozabald

Manitoba's first elevated highway.

I thought the Disraeli held that prestigious honour.