Downtown Eastside - DTES Issues - Page 65

Vin · #**1281** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

In case you've forgotten, we already did this last year, and several times in the years before that - they came back a few months later. Premature celebration is a very bad idea.

Some of the key words here are "courage", "integrity", "foresight", "grit", "perseverance" and "tenacity": not so much on the part of the homeless campers, but for the authorities concerned. The previous administrations, especially the mayors and park board members, failed miserably when it comes to the retention of such qualities. We do see some of these in the current administration, and shall see how the current situation plays out.

Migrant_Coconut · #**1282** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Some of the key words here are "courage", "integrity", "foresight", "grit", "perseverance" and "tenacity": not so much on the part of the homeless campers, but for the authorities concerned. The previous administrations, especially the mayors and park board members, failed miserably when it comes to the retention of such qualities. We do see some of these in the current administration, and shall see how the current situation plays out.

There's really only five key words here: "virtue-signalling to the base" (and evidently, that worked). We shall indeed find out whether or not this actually accomplishes something useful or just makes a bad situation worse.

Vin · #**1283** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

There's really only five key words here: "virtue-signalling to the base" (and evidently, that worked). We shall indeed find out whether or not this actually accomplishes something useful or just makes a bad situation worse.

As far as I can tell, the sky hasn't fallen yet. In fact, things have improved!

Despite vocal opposition, city says Hastings decampment showing positive results
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/despite-vocal-...ults-1.6357261

That's a positive "virtue-signal".

This fire caused less damage as it was put out faster. Exactly why the frontage of buildings need to be kept clear:
Three people displaced by fire in DTES supportive housing site
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...te/ar-AA19YERz

Migrant_Coconut · #**1284** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 7:13 PM**

Of course the City says the thing they just did is producing results - Robertson and Stewart's councils did the same, and you called them liars.

From that same article:

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"I think that's a preposterious manipulation of statistics," said Hamish Ballantyne, community organizer with the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users (VANDU). "If there's an outdoor fire, it's happening in an alley or a park outside the DTES where someone's been forced to take shelter and no one's out there to look out for them or call the fire department when their tent burns down..."

"... I've been tracking them down in alleys, some people are setting up tents behind dumpsters, many people had their tents thrown away."

tl;dr - 79 less tents on Hastings became 79 more tents spread around downtown, and 9/11 calls are only down because nobody's watching the new tents. Zero change isn't negative or "positive," it's just a waste of money.

GenWhy? · #**1285** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 9:05 PM**

Last 2 weeks I've been driving and walking through the DTES a few times every day mornings, afternoons, and evening and I'd say it "looks" very 2019. Main difference being everywhere else outside the heart of the DTES reminds me it's definitely 2023...

In the DTES now I see a lot more people just out in the open getting rained on.

Changing City · #**1286** Posted **Apr 18, 2023, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Last 2 weeks I've been driving and walking through the DTES a few times every day mornings, afternoons, and evening and I'd say it "looks" very 2019. Main difference being everywhere else outside the heart of the DTES reminds me it's definitely 2023...

In the DTES now I see a lot more people just out in the open getting rained on.

There were around 30 people still living in tents and under tarps on Sunday morning, but there were City crews working the street. There seemed to be more camping off Hastings than there used to be, but at least one block away. I saw one guy asleep in his 'personal property' wheely bin, with an umbrella over his head. A lot were occupying Chinatown doorways, usually (but not always) when the business wasn't open. Today there are several camped in bus shelters on East Hastings, further east, away from the strip the City are clearing.

Vin · #**1287** Posted **May 2, 2023, 8:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Last 2 weeks I've been driving and walking through the DTES a few times every day mornings, afternoons, and evening and I'd say it "looks" very 2019. Main difference being everywhere else outside the heart of the DTES reminds me it's definitely 2023...

In the DTES now I see a lot more people just out in the open getting rained on.

To be rained on is a pretty good way to motivate people to better themselves. I say let's keep it up.

Vin · #**1288** Posted **May 26, 2023, 6:24 PM**

Everyone needs to watch this:

• Video Link

I promise Vancouver (especially DTES), Nanaimo and BC are mentioned the most here.

Migrant_Coconut · #**1289** Posted **May 26, 2023, 6:29 PM**

Directed by... Aaron Gunn, director of Vancouver Is Dying; affiliated with BC Proud, the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation and the former BC Liberals.

Skip it unless you were already planning to vote for United. That's what he wants.

cairnstone · #**1290** Posted **May 26, 2023, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Directed by... Aaron Gunn, director of Vancouver Is Dying; affiliated with BC Proud, the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation and the former BC Liberals.

Skip it unless you were already planning to vote for United. That's what he wants.

Yup the far right propaganda.

SeymourDrake · #**1291** Posted **Jun 9, 2023, 3:58 AM**

Is this some kind of record? I have to wonder if this was one person setting these fires.

11 fires intentionally set in 1 day on DTES: Vancouver fire officials

CTVNewsVancouver.ca
Published June 8, 2023 11:40 a.m. PDT

"Nearly a dozen fires were intentionally set in a matter of hours on Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside Wednesday, according to fire officials.

Out of the 11 fires that crews responded to, four involved “outdoor rubbish,” two were set in city-owned garbage cans and another five burned inside dumpsters that were up against buildings, according to Vancouver Fire Rescue Services.

“Crews were able to contain the fires from spreading inside,” VFRS spokesperson Matthew Trudeau wrote in an email to CTV News Thursday.

The DTES isn’t the only neighbourhood where a fire was intentionally set on Wednesday.

VFRS posted two photos on Twitter showing the aftermath of a blaze at the Dollarama at 668 Seymour St. in the downtown core."

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/11-fires-inten...ials-1.6433046

Tysonbrown · #**1292** Posted **Jun 9, 2023, 7:36 PM**

Total RIGHT WING propaganda BS! Time to shut this down.

Vin · #**1293** Posted **Jun 16, 2023, 8:39 PM**

More Shooting incident a few days ago:
Vancouver Police investigates Downtown Eastside shooting

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https://vpd.ca/news/2023/06/11/vanco...side-shooting/

Source from VPD

Also from a couple of days ago.
More crazed behaviour possibly from a drug addict:
Someone is throwing things from 10th floor of a Vancouver building

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https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dtes...olice-incident

Source from Dailyhive Vancouver

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Originally Posted by Tysonbrown

Total RIGHT WING propaganda BS! Time to shut this down.

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Originally Posted by cairnstone

Yup the far right propaganda.

Yeah, truth is, DTES is as safe as ever and exactly like other lovely Canadian neighbourhoods, and any hint of negative news must come from the total right wing extremist nuts, who are intent on taking over the whole world.

Migrant_Coconut · #**1294** Posted **Jun 16, 2023, 9:04 PM**

The DTES has been a problem since before most of us were born, and a solution is needed. I don't see how incels capitalizing on it to score political brownie points is in any way part of the solution.

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And whaddya know, removing the tents made Hastings even less safe. So much for ABC's foresight and tenacity.

More fear and violence in the Downtown Eastside since Montreal gang moved in

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Downtown Eastside residents and front-line workers say they feel like the neighbourhood has become more violent in the weeks since city officials removed tents from Hastings Street.

And some say they believe the displacement of “survival” or subsistence street dealers may have created a void being filled by more violent traffickers, including a street gang from Montreal called Zone 43 that has established itself in the community...

... Postmedia also spoke to some St. Paul’s Hospital workers, who said they have seen an uptick in victims of violence, including a shooting victim who arrived on his own June 1. Another man was injured in a June 11 shooting at East Hastings and Princess Avenue...

whatnext · #**1295** Posted **Jun 16, 2023, 9:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The DTES has been a problem since before most of us were born, and a solution is needed. I don't see how incels capitalizing on it to score political brownie points is in any way part of the solution.

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And whaddya know, removing the tents made Hastings even less safe. So much for ABC's foresight and tenacity.

More fear and violence in the Downtown Eastside since Montreal gang moved in

LOL, and sure those groups have no self-interest in promoting that theory.

Sheba · #**1296** Posted **Aug 11, 2023, 4:58 PM**

...and now for something completely different - Landmark Indigenous housing project breaks ground in Vancouver

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Construction is underway on an Indigenous-led and focused development in Vancouver that will bring nearly 170 mixed-use homes and 80 shelter beds to the Downtown Eastside.

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Located at 1015 East Hastings St., the building is named Ho'-kee-melh Kloshe Lum, which means "to gather, good spirits." It will be a mixed-use development across two concrete towers and will include 143 low- to moderate-income rentals, 25 supportive housing units and 80 shelter beds. All the homes and shelter spaces will be operated by VAFCS.

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Construction on Ho'-kee-melh Kloshe Lum is expected to be complete in late 2025.