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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 1:32 AM
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I’d say it’s not the height that’s the issue, it’s just poor street level design.

There’s some pretty canyon parts of downtown Ottawa that are nice to walk down and then others that are hostile. Hopefully more of Hamilton’s high rises get a nicer street level in future.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2023, 1:37 AM
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I’d say it’s not the height that’s the issue, it’s just poor street level design.

There’s some pretty canyon parts of downtown Ottawa that are nice to walk down and then others that are hostile. Hopefully more of Hamilton’s high rises get a nicer street level in future.
I think the issue is most designers just focus on what the height looks like at a distance - and since half the time the podium is partially made up of car storage they don't really care what the street level looks like - so most of the people who are advocating for height and canyons only really care about how things look from a distance whereas the rest want street and pedestrian friendly designs - heritage, stuff that's interesting to look at as you're walking.

You never truly get an appreciation for the taller stuff craning your neck up at street level - we really need balance. William thomas building imo was done perfectly - heritage street view - 3-6 stories average - and a pushed back tall thin building that isn't noticeable much from street view, allowing the podium to take most of the visual, and the actual big building can still be admired from far away.

It's one reason I hate cobalt towers - they had such a GOOD opportunity for heritage at street level on a street side of unbroken heritage design and they, imo, screwed it up with a bland podium design. Core urban right next door really sets the contrast of what it COULD have been.

That stretch on king past james/the bus station was HORRIBLY designed - esp the south side. If it had had more business fronts it would have been a lot better but now it's like a dividing line so anything past this part doesn't even feel like part of the core - it feels.. scattered, with no reason to ever go there from the core.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Lots of blue skin going up today, tells me more cladding is to be installed soon.



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Old Posted Jan 25, 2023, 8:58 AM
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Ahh the north side of the street feels like a barely clinging on reminder of the past.. all that parking was once all rowhouses.. sigh..
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2023, 10:11 PM
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2023, 2:10 PM
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fun photo from midway up the tower by Reimar

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2023, 2:44 PM
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Occupancy for this is apparently still scheduled for September - I'm looking forward to seeing if they can meet that. No wonder this one has been absolutely flying. That's a very aggressive timeline.
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Occupancy for this is apparently still scheduled for September - I'm looking forward to seeing if they can meet that. No wonder this one has been absolutely flying. That's a very aggressive timeline.
Perhaps they will occupy lower floors while top floors are still being built. I struggle to believe all 31 floors will be occupied September 1.

They are pouring the last floor, so cladding and interior work should speed up significantly in the coming months.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2023, 2:46 AM
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This almost feels like Dubai with all these things going up at once all beside each other - like our city suddenly woke up and started building after decades of sleep.
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This almost feels like Dubai with all these things going up at once all beside each other - like our city suddenly woke up and started building after decades of sleep.
More like the market realized it was time to build here again. Hamilton has been a "city in transition" for a long time... it's finally ripe for some positive change.

Hopefully the market only naps if there's a shift or downturn in the economy, but the demographics and growth trends in the broader region should keep Hamilton on an upward trajectory.
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More like the market realized it was time to build here again. Hamilton has been a "city in transition" for a long time... it's finally ripe for some positive change.

Hopefully the market only naps if there's a shift or downturn in the economy, but the demographics and growth trends in the broader region should keep Hamilton on an upward trajectory.
Well if it does we'll just have a lot of new empty buildings.. like we already do..
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More facade has been installed on the King st side. You can finally see a finished section covering a full storey and a bit. It’s handsome.
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seeing this photo just makes me think, damn, City Hall parking seems to take up too much space. I think they should build a parking garage with a mixed-use tower above. low-income or workforce housing.

one can dream, right? hah

Glad to see the progress! It will be great for the core to have many more students downtown.
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seeing this photo just makes me think, damn, City Hall parking seems to take up too much space. I think they should build a parking garage with a mixed-use tower above. low-income or workforce housing.

one can dream, right? hah

Glad to see the progress! It will be great for the core to have many more students downtown.
I've heard that elevated section of the parking lot was built to accommodate office towers if/when the city needed it, so you're not far off the mark. I know which I'd prefer.
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I've heard that elevated section of the parking lot was built to accommodate office towers if/when the city needed it, so you're not far off the mark. I know which I'd prefer.
City Hall was designed to have a third office wing constructed off of the north end which was never built, but it would have gone where the elevated walkway from City Hall to the parking garage is, not on top of the parking garage itself.

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Old Posted Feb 16, 2023, 4:47 AM
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seeing this photo just makes me think, damn, City Hall parking seems to take up too much space. I think they should build a parking garage with a mixed-use tower above. low-income or workforce housing.

one can dream, right? hah

Glad to see the progress! It will be great for the core to have many more students downtown.
They already have a design for it - saw it proposed a while back - so only a matter of time. As was said they designed it with expansion in mind.

Cladding is looking great on the building btw - to bring this back on topic.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2023, 4:10 AM
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They already have a design for it - saw it proposed a while back - so only a matter of time. As was said they designed it with expansion in mind.

Cladding is looking great on the building btw - to bring this back on topic.
glad to hear!

(yeah, your name has been in your sig for years. Also, same first name as another Hamilton forumer so easy to remember)

I agree, this cladding is pretty pretty neat

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glad to hear!

(yeah, your name has been in your sig for years. Also, same first name as another Hamilton forumer so easy to remember)

I agree, this cladding is pretty pretty neat

Lol yeah I don't think most people pay much attention to my sig hahaha..

I do wonder why the parking garage area cladding is perforated/corrugated (whatever the right word is lol) though - esp. when it's just going over cinderblock - does that area need to breathe more..?

I also just noticed the cladding above is it actually black - interesting - I thought it was all gonna be that bronze colour..
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Lol yeah I don't think most people pay much attention to my sig hahaha..

I do wonder why the parking garage area cladding is perforated/corrugated (whatever the right word is lol) though - esp. when it's just going over cinderblock - does that area need to breathe more..?

I also just noticed the cladding above is it actually black - interesting - I thought it was all gonna be that bronze colour..
on my 27 inch monitor with 150% zoom enabled in my browser the font is pretty big

can't wait to see how this cladding pans out. definitely different than the boring status quo for Hamilton!
I kinda wish it was closer to 40 storeys. Having the gold panels shine in the sun over Hamilton might be neat.
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