Atlanta Project Thread IV

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Hi Tony, welcome to the Atlanta forum. This is the "Atlanta project thread," for posting about proposed and under construction projects. For off-topic discussions about how you'd like to add more parking to the city, please consider posting in the "ATLANTA Infrastucture (Roads, Complete streets, Bike Lanes, Paths)" thread. Thanks!

[L41A]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

One thing ive noticed out here is the lack of street parking on many corridors, however I also notice that the streets are not busy enough in many places for 4 lanes.

Has there been a push to allow street parking in more areas across the city? I notice huge deadlines in areas that do not have street parking compared to areas that do.

Has this been talked about?

I get what you are saying. I remember when Marietta Street/Howell Mill Road area had no street parking and with the street parking, the human scale is so much better. Even Juniper St with its enhanced street parking is better than years past. And street parking could be extended to Courtland St.
Ponce also could use more street parking. Advantage of street parking in these areas may mitigate the use of parking lots opening up to street and influence development.

Some people are arguing something that you didn't suggest - more parking instead of more street parking.

[shivtim]

355 Centennial Olympic Drive site and permitted hotel plans for sale

This is a bit of an odd one. The permitted 14-story Residence Inn By Marriott just northeast of the Center for Civil and Human Rights (and just south of "Generation" student housing) is for sale if a developer wants to build it.

[tinyslam]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

I walked Peachtree & Spring St, nothing about it feels unsafe to me, maybe if they added some on street parking people would feel safer

But im not gonna keep lamenting on the topic. Im just giving a different perspective, if any of you have lived up north before you would understand what im saying. Point blank

What part of Philly did you live in? A lot of us are from up north. I moved down here 10 years ago from Jersey. You'll find the majority of Atlantans are from elsewhere originally.

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

I walked Peachtree & Spring St, nothing about it feels unsafe to me, maybe if they added some on street parking people would feel safer

But im not gonna keep lamenting on the topic. Im just giving a different perspective, if any of you have lived up north before you would understand what im saying. Point blank

You'll find urban advocates in Atlanta are touchy about things like parking. It comes with the territory of being under the thumb of an anti-urban state always cutting transit and doing stuff to expressly benefit the suburbs and rural communities, at the city's expense, even though Atlanta and especially the city proper is by far the economic engine of the whole state.

In this case, I don't think more street parking in Midtown would help. DC/Philly have a huge amount of sidewalk parking but few parking decks. So to get where you want to go, you have to drive around looking for parking, and once you find it, you're very hesitant to move. So you spend a lot of time in the neighborhood and walk to multiple different businesses.

In Midtown Atlanta, you've got garages everywhere. You must park in the exact garage for the business you're going to, and you'll probably get 2 hours of parking with purchase from the businesses. So, people don't hang out and walk around the area anywhere near as much. It's quite expensive to use one of the garages to just park for the afternoon.

I encourage you to check out the eastside beltline/O4W, Inman Park, Virginia Highland, Little 5, Decatur, etc. These neighborhoods are a lot more like what you're describing, have more street parking/foot traffic than Midtown, and are imo the spiritual heart of Atlanta, moreso than Midtown/Downtown/Buckhead.

[shivtim]

Rezoning filed for 490 Fairburn, for a 200 unit multifamily development.

Planning permit filed for apartment building at 421 Connell.

Planning permit filed at 145 James P Brawley to covert a single family home into 15 studio apartments for students.

[shivtim]

Murphy Crossing update on the Southwest Beltline





According to a presentation timeline, zoning reviews and community design meetings are scheduled to continue through October. The development team expects to work with engineers to submit the project to the State of Georgia as a Development of Regional Impact in December, given its large scale.

[shivtim]

Early ideas from the city for the Atlanta Medical Center site:

[joecool]

This would be amazing! That area needs help!

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Early ideas from the city for the Atlanta Medical Center site:

There's a pretty cool historic-looking 5-story building in the center of this that they should consider saving. It's almost impossible to see it from any public right-of-way right now. You can only see if from oblique aerials. It vaguely resembles the Southern Railroad building in south downtown, but smaller and a little more ornate.

I actually like the building at the corner of Boulevard and Ralph McGill too.

Instead, it looks like the main 11-story hospital building is the only thing being saved.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

There's a pretty cool historic-looking 5-story building in the center of this that they should consider saving. It's almost impossible to see it from any public right-of-way right now. You can only see if from oblique aerials. It vaguely resembles the Southern Railroad building in south downtown, but smaller and a little more ornate.

I actually like the building at the corner of Boulevard and Ralph McGill too.

Instead, it looks like the main 11-story hospital building is the only thing being saved.

This news video has a graphic that says "Preserved 1920s hospital facade". I wonder if that's the building you're referring to?

https://www.11alive.com/video/news/l...c-0e55802bb3a4

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/...nancing-125708

New Jersey-based RBH Group received the OK from Fulton County economic developers to issue up to $370M in bonds to develop a 34-story affordable housing tower in Downtown Atlanta.

The Development Authority of Fulton County, recently rebranded Develop Fulton, approved the federal tax-exempt bond package for RBH on Tuesday, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Once those bonds are issued, RBH will break ground on what it has dubbed Teachers Village Atlanta, a 416K SF, 426-unit apartment tower at 98 Cone St. that will target middle-income earners such as public school teachers and seniors.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

This tower looks really good and the density to parking garage situation is much more to my liking. Correct me if im wrong, but i believe Downtown has building codes that disallow parking on the first two floors, so we see a much more pleasant street level experience than some of the stuff being built in Midtown.

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/...nancing-125708

There’s no way this is a $370MM project, right? $868k/unit or almost $1k/SF. I’m hoping there’s not a 1:1 correlation between bond value and construction value for some reason (maybe those are values at maturity?).

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

There’s no way this is a $370MM project, right? $868k/unit or almost $1k/SF. I’m hoping there’s not a 1:1 correlation between bond value and construction value for some reason (maybe those are values at maturity?).

It does seem high.

The funding reads "up to $370 million." The cost was estimated at $176 million in 2021, but has probably gone up since. it probably includes new construction, long-term maintenance subsidies, and the restoration of the adjacent historic parking deck (which is included in the funding). You can review the details on Development Authority website.

The truth is that it's more expensive to build on small site like this in Downtown than in other locations in Atlanta. The small size adds significantly to the cost. The fire code is also stricter in Downtown than anywhere else in the city.

The site is also in a zoning district which, while not a local historic district, requires facades to be masonry, stone, or terra cotta. I've seen samples of the skin and I believe it's a chipped marble composite, not the cementitious or aluminum panels that most places use. I'm sure this adds to the cost.

[Kenn]

Does anyone know what happened to this project?

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2019/7/10...at%20The%20Hub.

[cabasse]

^ they actually completed it - https://maps.app.goo.gl/LFg3WpPDQpDDdu2z6 funnily enough i noticed this just a week ago or so.

[Kenn]

Originally Posted by cabasse

^ they actually completed it - https://maps.app.goo.gl/LFg3WpPDQpDDdu2z6 funnily enough i noticed this just a week ago or so.

Not really.

The original rendering is far more expansive and encompasses the second story. The entrance was going to be dramatic with restaurants, retail, and a two story atrium all spilling into peachtree. It looks like they completed the corner and then abandoned the rest of the project.

[shivtim]

Building permit filed for 142 Mitchell in south downtown.

"The renovation will convert existing and unoccupied ground level retail and upper level office space into new ground level retail and upper level residential units. Also occupying the site is 140 Mitchell St. SW, which includes the burned out remains of a 1-story masonry retail building. New construction will infill the existing building shell, extending 3 floors of residential above a ground level retail space. This will aggregate all three structures into a single building from a code standpoint."

[shivtim]

Via Urbanize, zoning applied for at the Randall Brothers site by Georgia Tech.

"Georgia Tech is seeking a Special Use Permit to build a hotel and dormitory on the 7.3-acre site, which also counts 294 feet of frontage on North Avenue near Coca-Cola’s headquarters."