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Old Posted Jul 7, 2021, 7:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Truenorth00 View Post
To replace the existing fleet. They have pre-negotiated options if they want to buy more. The assumption all this time was that they would exercise those options for HFR. This announcement makes it unclear what they are doing. They might just procure a different fleet for HFR and leave the Siemens fleet on the Lakeshore and Corridor West services. They could also exercise the options and get the second order in dual mode. We'll see what they do.
You are missing the point. Let's say they fill the existing order as is. Let's say they decided that the HFR routes will be electrified. We have near new equipment that, as delivered are not able to utilize that electrification. So, now we have a large fleet of engines not compatible with the route.

Now, they could be moved to other routes, but i don't think there is enough routes running enough service to need this many new engines.

I could see them moving some to a new service between Calgary and Edmonton, and if they decided a daily on all routes, this would use them up.

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It's not about what you want. It's about what we need. Most countries usually build HSR with the intention of substantially diverting air passengers from a given city pair. So their target speed is usually based on achieving a door-to-door travel time that is competitive with air for that city pair.

Given how long it takes to travel to/from airports on both ends and pre-departure times, 3 hrs from downtown-to-downtown is more than competitive. Heck, given the cost of air travel and our climate, 3.5 hrs with a reasonable fare would be plenty competitive.
I know what you said vs what you meant. How long should it take is based more on what you are trying to do. For example, the travel time/speed for the Canadian can be slower than the Corridor due to the customer base. If I were looking at the Corridor, I would first ensure it can match the bus or a car. Then aim to match a plane.

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If HFR is very successful, an Ottawa bypass for Toronto-Montreal express trains via the CP Winchester subdivision would likely cut travel times by at least 30 minutes. This does not need to negatively impact service to Ottawa. This would be a natural future upgrade.
Is there really a demand for it though?
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