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Old Posted Jan 11, 2017, 1:56 AM
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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe View Post
This mess in Ontario was caused directly to the downloading in the 1990s. Before then, the road would continue with the number. Now, when it hits a county border, it may change numbers. Renumbering everything in the province would be an expensive nightmare.

The idea that when it gets divided it gets a 4 placed at the beginning of the number makes simple sense. However, it then makes certain highways not make sense - 404 for example is nowhere near highway 4.

Downloading in Ontario has made many highways more unsafe due to the lack of maintenance. The roads do not get repaved as often, or get plowed as good as before. Hopefully they do not do more downloading, and possibly do some uploading.
There are a number of examples where county roads that were never provincial highways changed number as soon as they crossed the adjacent county border. I use the example of where Dufferin County 3 meets Wellington County 18 - there's no clear sign that you've changed jurisdictions, but the road number has changed. That's confusing.

The Province of Ontario added a wrinkle to the whole affair in 1997-98. They either downloaded entire highways (or sections thereof) to various counties. The problem being that if there already was a preexisting county road with the same number as the section of former provincial highway they were gifted with, they would have to assign a new number to the highway, confusing just about everyone.

For instance, Ontario Highway 9 became Dufferin County 109 and Wellington County 109 between Orangeville and Minto, ON. As a bonus, the road is Ontario highway 9 east of Orangeville and west of Minto. If you're unfamiliar with the area, this is absolutely maddening and illogical.
     
     
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