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Originally Posted by homebucket
I’m not sure there’s even a point in comparing heavy rail to heavy rail. Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare the totality of rail transit system and ridership? Especially since there’s a lot of nuances even within each rail mode. They are all linked to some extent after all. So it’d be BART + Muni Metro + Caltrain and Metrorail + Metrolink. If you look at it from that perspective, then yes overall Bay Area rail ridership should exceed that of LA.
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Totally! That's what I was getting at. Why cherry pick one Bay Area whole system and only one combination line of LA's whole Metro Rail system? Why not compare the SF Bay Area's Muni Metro/BART/Caltrain/VTA light rail with LA's Metro Rail/Metrolink?
Easily looked up on the internet. The Bay Area does indeed have more rail ridership. But let's look at more real numbers than just one 131.4-mile whole system vs. one combined line that's less than 20 miles.
SF Bay Area, Rail Transit Weekday Daily Ridership
SF Muni Metro: 75,700 (Q2 2023---I couldn't find Q3)
BART: 164,500 (Q3 2023)
Caltrain: 20,725 (Q3 2023)
VTA light rail: 14,500 (Q3 2023)
Greater Los Angeles, Rail Transit Weekday Daily Ridership
Los Angeles Metro Rail: 189,200 (Q3 2023)
Metrolink: 17,000 (Q3 2023)
I think it's terrible that Metrolink's ridership is so low, considering that its system length is 545.6 miles.
And I'm kind of shocked that VTA's ridership is very low. It's lower than Phoenix's light rail (Valley Metro Rail), which has a Q3 2023 weekday daily ridership of 30,400.
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