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Old Posted Dec 22, 2023, 6:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CalUrbanist View Post
I know Americans already suffer the affliction of Americacentrism, and this is SSP of all places, but by world standards, NY is even subpar when considering the big picture.
Agreed, and I’ve hinted at this several times, including in this thread.

NYC Subway, considering the population density served, number of stations, express tracks, and 24-hour service, should have ridership that’s leaps and bounds ahead of London. London’s Underground is identical in route length, but has far fewer stations and mostly serves Greater London north of the Thames. So, smaller service area with far fewer people/density, no express trains, no 24-hour service, no AC — and it only lags behind the NYC Subway by like 500K riders.

And agreed about Manhattan. Wide avenues, parking garages along east-west streets in Midtown, fewer dense storefronts (amenities), more chain establishments, etc. It’s pretty telling that London manages to fit nearly all of its world-class amenities in an area the side of Midtown, and still be every bit the global powerhouse that NYC is. All those big-footprint office towers really spread out NYC’s urbanism, but that’s also what makes the city so grand.
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