Burnaby Updates

[officedweller]

Milano
From GBL twitter today:


https://twitter.com/GBLArchitects

[Spr0ckets]

Haven't seen these posted anywhere else, but Vancouvermarket has quite a few rezoning applications for Burnaby and in particular Metrotown and Brentwood for highrises and with Hastings, Edmonds town center and SFU getting some midrises and lowrises.

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2017/1...-applications/

Seems like the area south of Beresford and the Mall in Metrotown is starting to see some major activity with a 7.1 FAR tower by Intracorp (they did Metroplace) and a couple of towers across the street from each other on Wilson Avenue close to Patterson SKytrain station.
With that FAR, that tower by Intracorp seems like it might be taller than I was expecting for a lot that farther down south from Central Avenue and Beresford. Interesting.

Brentwood's keeping pace with a couple of highrise applications of their own on Dawson street ( I think I had seen this one before somewhere on here) and on Douglas road.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

Seems like the area south of Beresford and the Mall in Metrotown is starting to see some major activity with a 7.1 FAR tower by Intracorp (they did Metroplace) and a couple of towers across the street from each other on Wilson Avenue close to Patterson SKytrain station.
With that FAR, that tower by Intracorp seems like it might be taller than I was expecting for a lot that farther down south from Central Avenue and Beresford. Interesting.

I'm surprised by the Intracorp tower as well. They've been showing the towers being the tallest along Beresford and dropping down to lowrises at Imperial. That site is in approx the middle, and next door to Maywood Park.

[Klazu]

Damn, Burnaby keeps delivering! I love seeing more density going up around Wilson Street, as those few blocks are currently a dump. Nice to see another 42-floor tower go up next to Aldynne, although I hope the new one will look better and is taller than Aldynne.

The Intracorp project is split between two sites, so I would think neither of the two towers will be as tall as anything along Beresford? I would expect to see 20-30 floor towers at these locations, which will be perfect scale and transition from Beresford. Already Sun Tower 2 and Gold House 2 are in that scale, so I would assume something similar.

I am really confused by the 2152 & 2172 Douglas Road project which calls for a 147-meter tower. Is the map indicating its location wrong, as on the map the tower would be south of Hwy 1 at the intersection of Canada Way / Gilmore which makes no sense.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I am really confused by the 2152 & 2172 Douglas Road project which calls for a 147-meter tower. Is the map indicating its location wrong, as on the map the tower would be south of Hwy 1 at the intersection of Canada Way / Gilmore which makes no sense.

When I just looked on Google maps it shows it as being south of Lougheed Hwy on Douglas Road near Dawson Street.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I'm surprised by the Intracorp tower as well. They've been showing the towers being the tallest along Beresford and dropping down to lowrises at Imperial. That site is in approx the middle, and next door to Maywood Park.

Intracorp also owns the lot south of Maywood Park and will be transferring density to its mid-block site and donating the southern lot to add to the park.
So that could account for the variance (?) on height.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I'm surprised by the Intracorp tower as well. They've been showing the towers being the tallest along Beresford and dropping down to lowrises at Imperial. That site is in approx the middle, and next door to Maywood Park.

That's what I noticed as well, as I remember from the Metrotown "Downtown" planning concept diagram that the idea was to have Towers peak in height between Kingsway and Beresford, and then taper down in height as you move farther away from the core.

From my understanding in reading that rezoning statement it seems like they might be getting around that somehow by transferring some FAR from the southern lot (Which, I guess they own as well) also marked in that diagram to the northern lot which is where the tower is going to be located.
So as far as the city is concerned, the planned or zoned density for that area remains the same, but just shifted to allow them to build a taller tower than the site-specific zoning (or a rezoning application) would allow.
Whether the city actually accepts that argument is another question altogether since it seems to go against the spirit of what they're trying to achieve.
But these things tend to be smoothed over by concessions and negotiations between the city and the developer. Probably donate a floor or two to the city for some offices of community center clinic or something like that.
Or in this case, donating the southern lot to add to the park.

I'm just not really sure how it would all work, though, but with a 7.1 FAR for a single highrise tower on that lot, you're theoretically looking at a really tall tower.

[Spr0ckets]

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[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by Klazu

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The Intracorp project is split between two sites, so I would think neither of the two towers will be as tall as anything along Beresford? I would expect to see 20-30 floor towers at these locations, which will be perfect scale and transition from Beresford. Already Sun Tower 2 and Gold House 2 are in that scale, so I would assume something similar.

I am really confused by the 2152 & 2172 Douglas Road project which calls for a 147-meter tower. Is the map indicating its location wrong, as on the map the tower would be south of Hwy 1 at the intersection of Canada Way / Gilmore which makes no sense.

The 7.1 FAR they're applying for, for that northern lot alone, suggests that that tower could potentially and may likely be taller than the 20-30 storeys you're thinking, and possibly even taller than some of the Beresford towers.
For comparison, the 2 Wilson street tower rezoning applications are for 5.0 FAR for towers that are looking to be between mid-30's to 40 storeys in height.

It's probably the reason the applications is proposing to transfer density from the Maywood lot (which I guess they also own) to the northern lot.

Of course this all depends on the lot size, how much podium and/or townhomes they're doing and also all assuming relatively average tower floor plate area. (i.e not outsized large and not a skinny tower).

[officedweller]

Don't know where the 7.1 FAR reference from VancouverMarket.ca came from, but the application only mentioned 3.6 FAR:


https://eagenda.burnaby.ca/sirepub/p...0--%20Compiled

[phesto]

^The City's staff report indicates a density of 7.1 FAR net density after the density transfer from the Maywood Street lots: https://eagenda.burnaby.ca/sirepub/c...1702575598.pdf (see page 102 of the pdf)

Still not sure where that figure comes from, if you use the numbers in the letter it comes out to 6.6 FAR.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by phesto

^The City's staff report indicates a density of 7.1 FAR net density after the density transfer from the Maywood Street lots: https://eagenda.burnaby.ca/sirepub/c...1702575598.pdf (see page 102 of the pdf)

Still not sure where that figure comes from, if you use the numbers in the letter it comes out to 6.6 FAR.

You get 3.6 if you average the total sq ftage over the sum total of both sites (total built area over total site area, including donor site).

You get 6.6 if you divide the total sq ftage over just the area of the mid-block sites.

The link you posted isn't working now.

[vanman]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Looks to be just north of Silhouette on the Burnaby side of North Road.






https://www.onni.com/commercial/reta...55-north-road/

[Vin]

Wow is that an office tower and a "mall" at the bottom? With the Lougheed town centre completed and the retail plaza next door, residents here will enjoy a lot of convenience. Progressive!

[SpongeG]

its the current site of north road plaza, which is all shops and restaurants, wow thats going to be great

its been rumoured a while, its not a mall so much, will just replace all the shops there now with a possible t&t store, save-on-foods is across the street to the south, the area is blessed with grocery stores

[Vin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

its the current site of north road plaza, which is all shops and restaurants, wow thats going to be great

its been rumoured a while, its not a mall so much, will just replace all the shops there now with a possible t&t store, save-on-foods is across the street to the south, the area is blessed with grocery stores

I love using the word (maybe ruffle the feathers of certain fellas). Anywhere where I see a cluster of shops/supermarkets I would consider it a mall, or would you rather it be a shopping centre?

[officedweller]

Looks like another Gold House, but better podium.

[towerseeker101]

Originally Posted by Sri

Any INFO on who the builder bought this site, and new development for this site.

It looks like it hasn't sold. It's still listed on the Collier's property listings: http://www.collierscanada.com/21488

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Vin

I love using the word (maybe ruffle the feathers of certain fellas). Anywhere where I see a cluster of shops/supermarkets I would consider it a mall, or would you rather it be a shopping centre?

Well if that's the case then it sounds like most condo towers have a 'mall' in their ground level.

Fantastic news!

I guess this means you will stop your inane crusade now?

[BobLoblawsLawBlog]

That Onni development looks pretty good. I wish more developers built like that. I've been noticing an increase in highrises with darker glass (not seafoam), which looks much more professional.