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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 8:14 PM
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That time is today...Canada ranks near the top of almost every metric.

1. Canada is the most educated country on earth. (US is 11th)
2. Canadians on average live 4 years longer than Americans.
3. Canada ranks as the 11th safest county on earth (Global Peace Index). US ranks 132nd.
4. Canada ranks 5th in the world for Quality of Life (US News). US ranks 22nd.
5. Canada ranks 9th in the world for income inequality. US ranks 32nd.
6. Canada has the wealthiest middle class in the world (median annual income). (Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report)
7. Canada consistently ranks at or near the top of the Reputation Institute’s annual Most Respected Country ranking.
8. US murder rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
9. US violent crime rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
10. US university tuition is more than two times higher on average than Canada’s.
11. Canadian students rank 9th in the world for harmonized test scores. US ranks 33rd.
12. Canada ranks above the US on the UN’s Human Development Index.
13. Canada ranks above the US on the global Human Freedom Index.
14. US poverty rates are almost twice as high as Canada’s.
15. Canada’s Maternity leave: 52 weeks (paid). US Maternity leave: 12 weeks (unpaid).
16. Canada’s average minimum wage is $17.30. US average minimum wage is $11.80.
17. Two-thirds of all bankruptcies in the US are due to an inability to pay medical bills. Canada has public healthcare.
18. Canadians have a better work-life balance (3% of Canadians work 50 hours per week. 10% of Americans do)
19. Canadians are guaranteed two-weeks paid vacation (3 after 5 years, 4 after 10). Americans have no guaranteed paid vacation.
20. Canadians take on average 7 more paid vacation days per year than Americans.
I mean some of these are valid, some of this is true but heavily distorted by our real estate bubble (wealth), and 15 out of these 20 podium finishes are just comparisons to the USA you’ve used to pad the list.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 9:02 PM
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Lighting Guy/Build.It was your compatriot for lapping up this conspiratorial nonsense and he blew a gasket, left after posting a long bloviating diatribe and then came back to personally attack a bunch of forumers.
Not sure it was him now, Wigs.

Pretty sure who it was.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 9:10 PM
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Sorry not sure hot to post the images of the various polling results… regardless here’s the latest from Abacus (Feb 20 - 25)

Federal Polling:

CPC: 41% (+7)
LPC: 29% (-4)
NDP: 14% (-4)
BQ: 6% (-2)
GPC: 4% (+2)
PPC: 3% (-2)

https://x.com/CanadianPolling/status/1895199251346661486


Wonder what the HUGE discrepancies are from the various polling results

Considering this one dates back to Feb 20 perhaps it is already outdated


Latest Léger Poll showing a Carney majority… really not sure how accurate this poll is though, the map is showing a sweep of both Calgary and Edmonton, and I can’t imagine the NDP will ONLY get 3 seats

Latest Leger poll modelled out (If Mark Carney were Liberal leader)

������LIB: 176 seats (+16)
������CON: 144 seats (+25)
⚜️BQ: 19 seats (-13)
������NDP: 3 seats (-22)
������GRN: 1 seats (-1)

https://x.com/RealAlbanianPat/status/1894541672261759427

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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 9:49 PM
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I mean some of these are valid, some of this is true but heavily distorted by our real estate bubble (wealth), and 15 out of these 20 podium finishes are just comparisons to the USA you’ve used to pad the list.
Median household income in Canada is definitely significantly lower than the US - wealth is only higher as you pointed out because of the real estate bubble that has run up in the last 20 years making millions of middle class households "paper millionaires".
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 9:49 PM
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Latest abacus poll showing seats

Latest Abacus Data poll modelled out

CON: 209 seats (+90)
LIB: 93 seats (-67)
BQ: 23 seats (-9)
NDP: 15 seats (-10)
GRN: 3 seats (+1)

https://x.com/RealAlbanianPat/status/1895086508874576349
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 9:57 PM
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Sorry not sure hot to post the images of the various polling results… regardless here’s the latest from Abacus (Feb 20 - 25)

Federal Polling:

CPC: 41% (+7)
LPC: 29% (-4)
NDP: 14% (-4)
BQ: 6% (-2)
GPC: 4% (+2)
PPC: 3% (-2)

https://x.com/CanadianPolling/status/1895199251346661486


Wonder what the HUGE discrepancies are from the various polling results

Considering this one dates back to Feb 20 perhaps it is already outdated


Latest Léger Poll showing a Carney majority… really not sure how accurate this poll is though, the map is showing a sweep of both Calgary and Edmonton, and I can’t imagine the NDP will ONLY get 3 seats

Latest Leger poll modelled out (If Mark Carney were Liberal leader)

🔴LIB: 176 seats (+16)
🔵CON: 144 seats (+25)
⚜️BQ: 19 seats (-13)
🟠NDP: 3 seats (-22)
🟢GRN: 1 seats (-1)

https://x.com/RealAlbanianPat/status/1894541672261759427
Yeah, i don’t see the NDP going any less than 10, but you never know. Pretty significant how much of a bump the Liberals get in polls that specify Carney as the leader.

The real question is how the polling will look after March 9th. 🤔

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Trump was always extremely unpopular in Canada and Europe. This approval ratings for Trump is from 2020. With the threat of annexation, and the tariffs, it is now in the single digits. Trump is almost universally despised.
It's weird that there's a "strongly approve" option but no "strongly disapprove" option. Regardless, yeah he's even less popular than I thought
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 11:04 PM
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That time is today...Canada ranks near the top of almost every metric.

1. Canada is the most educated country on earth. (US is 11th)
2. Canadians on average live 4 years longer than Americans.
3. Canada ranks as the 11th safest county on earth (Global Peace Index). US ranks 132nd.
4. Canada ranks 5th in the world for Quality of Life (US News). US ranks 22nd.
5. Canada ranks 9th in the world for income inequality. US ranks 32nd.
6. Canada has the wealthiest middle class in the world (median annual income). (Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report)
7. Canada consistently ranks at or near the top of the Reputation Institute’s annual Most Respected Country ranking.
8. US murder rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
9. US violent crime rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
10. US university tuition is more than two times higher on average than Canada’s.
11. Canadian students rank 9th in the world for harmonized test scores. US ranks 33rd.
12. Canada ranks above the US on the UN’s Human Development Index.
13. Canada ranks above the US on the global Human Freedom Index.
14. US poverty rates are almost twice as high as Canada’s.
15. Canada’s Maternity leave: 52 weeks (paid). US Maternity leave: 12 weeks (unpaid).
16. Canada’s average minimum wage is $17.30. US average minimum wage is $11.80.
17. Two-thirds of all bankruptcies in the US are due to an inability to pay medical bills. Canada has public healthcare.
18. Canadians have a better work-life balance (3% of Canadians work 50 hours per week. 10% of Americans do)
19. Canadians are guaranteed two-weeks paid vacation (3 after 5 years, 4 after 10). Americans have no guaranteed paid vacation.
20. Canadians take on average 7 more paid vacation days per year than Americans.
Surely you know #1 is a negative for the maple MAGAs. Education is indoctrination and elitism!

#5, again, not a priority because who cares about the middle class when MAGAs are all just one big break or one week without Starbucks coffee from being like their billionaire idols!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 11:09 PM
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Regardless, Trudeau left Canada worse off than he found it when he became PM
     
     
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Regardless, Trudeau left Canada worse off than he found it when he became PM

Libs slogan..."Hey it could be worse!"
     
     
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Yeah, i don’t see the NDP going any less than 10, but you never know. Pretty significant how much of a bump the Liberals get in polls that specify Carney as the leader.

The real question is how the polling will look after March 9th. 🤔
Even after today we might see a change in polling. After Doug Ford is elected to another majority, I think it would be interesting to see if Ontario voters will split hard and look at the Liberals as a counterbalance. There’s no question that Ford is unpopular, but now with Pierre becoming unpopular too, it might be the major swing needed to put the liberals ahead.
     
     
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Being well educated means fuck all if you can’t find a job in your field. We all know young Canadian graduates are struggling to find employment.

https://youtu.be/8bXdUDzRu8Y?si=55SSdvX4N1XGvRfs
     
     
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Even after today we might see a change in polling. After Doug Ford is elected to another majority, I think it would be interesting to see if Ontario voters will split hard and look at the Liberals as a counterbalance. There’s no question that Ford is unpopular, but now with Pierre becoming unpopular too, it might be the major swing needed to put the liberals ahead.
What, exactly, has Trudeau done to be a counterbalance to Ford so far?
     
     
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Being well educated means fuck all if you can’t find a job in your field. We all know young Canadian graduates are struggling to find employment.

https://youtu.be/8bXdUDzRu8Y?si=55SSdvX4N1XGvRfs
North Korea has a higher literacy rate than Canada.
     
     
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What, exactly, has Trudeau done to be a counterbalance to Ford so far?
Trudeau isn’t running anymore.
     
     
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What, exactly, has Trudeau done to be a counterbalance to Ford so far?
Spent money. Honestly, a lot of this is just a natural aversion to having two governments on top pushing austerity.
     
     
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As a Board chair, Carney was doing as any other chair should do; maximize shareholder value. I have no issue with him doing this. The issue is now he is wrapping himself in the Canadian flag as the great defender of Canada. Hypocrisy at its finest. And why did he lie about it?

This theme seems to run with blue Liberals. We had Paul Martin attempting to portray himself as the great defender of Canada while at the same time foreign flagging (flag of convenience) all his CSL ships to avoid Canadian safety standards, labour laws and taxation.
Do you have actual evidence of these thing that are being said about Carney?
     
     
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Even after today we might see a change in polling. After Doug Ford is elected to another majority, I think it would be interesting to see if Ontario voters will split hard and look at the Liberals as a counterbalance. There’s no question that Ford is unpopular, but now with Pierre becoming unpopular too, it might be the major swing needed to put the liberals ahead.
My prediction was that if Ontarians elect a huge PC majority provincially that it will help the Liberals in the upcoming federal election. The Trump situation probably has a much bigger influence in helping the Liberals.
     
     
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Do you have actual evidence of these thing that are being said about Carney?
What more evidence do you need? Carney said he wasn’t on the board when the board voted to move the headquarters. He was. He then sent out a letter addressed to shareholders encouraging them to vote in favour of the move as well. He was being deceptive when he said he wasn’t involved with the shareholder vote.
     
     
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