Highway and Road Improvements in London Area

[MolsonExport]

Mattress Brown

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by GreatTallNorth2

I have no idea why Mattress Brown changed his mind on rapid transit. From my memory he was supportive of LRT but after he had the affair he changed to BRT.

I think when reality set in about how expensive that tunnel was going to be under Richmond, he changed his mind. I can only imagine now how expensive that tunnel would be given how overbudget the rest of it has gone.

[haljackey]

I wonder what the cost/challenges would be to deviate the BRT from Richmond to Talbot and widen/deepen the famous Talbot Street Underpass- it would then use Oxford to Wharncliffe towards Western and Masonville.

Heck you could even omit a rail crossing if you had the BRT connect between Oxford's Thames River bridge and CP underpass where The Belfort Night Club is. That might require some expropriation, but likely cheaper. It's tight, but doable for a BRT-Only Road. Heck, that also bypasses the mixed traffic on Wharncliffe route so you could get the west line going on Oxford to Wonderland.

[bolognium]

Originally Posted by haljackey

I wonder what the cost/challenges would be to deviate the BRT from Richmond to Talbot and widen/deepen the famous Talbot Street Underpass- it would then use Oxford to Wharncliffe towards Western and Masonville.

Heck you could even omit a rail crossing if you had the BRT connect between Oxford's Thames River bridge and CP underpass where The Belfort Night Club is. That might require some expropriation, but likely cheaper. It's tight, but doable for a BRT-Only Road. Heck, that also bypasses the mixed traffic on Wharncliffe route so you could get the west line going on Oxford to Wonderland.

I've heard the Talbot underpass would be difficult to retrofit because of the sewers under the road. Apparently clearance can't really be gained there without substantial sewer work (or raising the rail line which is a mega task). I'd imagine they would need to incorporate some kind of pumping station since gravity would no longer be able to keep sewage flowing if the road was lowered.

Deviating through the nightclub property is an interesting idea though!

[Mick42]

Originally Posted by haljackey

I wonder what the cost/challenges would be to deviate the BRT from Richmond to Talbot and widen/deepen the famous Talbot Street Underpass- it would then use Oxford to Wharncliffe towards Western and Masonville.

Heck you could even omit a rail crossing if you had the BRT connect between Oxford's Thames River bridge and CP underpass where The Belfort Night Club is. That might require some expropriation, but likely cheaper. It's tight, but doable for a BRT-Only Road. Heck, that also bypasses the mixed traffic on Wharncliffe route so you could get the west line going on Oxford to Wonderland.

Could even have Talbot cut through the north parking lots of the Night Club and neighbouring buildings. Not sure how close it could run alongside the track, it would be tight.

[CanadianTalk]

Update on the Glendon and Vanneck roundabout in Kilworth:

June 4, 2024 - After receiving the required approvals from Hydro One on the relocation of the hydro poles, the County of Middlesex will be putting the roundabout at the "5-Corners" intersection out to tender shortly, with work expected to start later this summer. A one-day road closure is expected later in June [June 24th] to allow for the hydro work to be completed.

[PeteM]

Matt Brown was trying to further his political career by aligning with local MPPs on changing the initial LRT plan. It should come as no surprise that he was only thinking of himself and didn't care about the city. And thus a transformative project died

And so it went, goes and will go forever in London. I've made peace with the fact that I'll never be proud or excited by anything this city does with infrastructure. I focus on things like Sunfest, greenspace, etc.

[K85]

I've given up on this city and transit... and a lot of others things. I can't yet convince the family to up and move, but there are very few options available in terms of work / schooling for the kiddo

[MrSlippery519]

Originally Posted by K85

I've given up on this city and transit... and a lot of others things. I can't yet convince the family to up and move, but there are very few options available in terms of work / schooling for the kiddo

It is a shame considering the size of London that they have been so complacent with transit and road efficiency in general. There have been countless opportunities to make a real impact to how we move people over the past many years but no one wants to really stick their neck out for some reason.

Yes it will cost money, a lot of money, but the long term benefits are huge

[CanadianTalk]

Construction will begin on the Glendon and Vanneck roundabout in Kilworth on Monday, September 9 and is expected to continue to mid-November.

https://www.middlesexcentre.ca/artic...FHm-KDqSgaPO_Q

[jammer139]

The MTO has issued notices for the expropriation of portions of properties for the new Highway 3 and Wonderland Rd interchange and widening project. We might see the first phases of construction for this project starting in 2025.

[HuronZephyr]

Originally Posted by PeteM

Matt Brown was trying to further his political career by aligning with local MPPs on changing the initial LRT plan. It should come as no surprise that he was only thinking of himself and didn't care about the city. And thus a transformative project died

And so it went, goes and will go forever in London. I've made peace with the fact that I'll never be proud or excited by anything this city does with infrastructure. I focus on things like Sunfest, greenspace, etc.

The city's population is supposed to increase by 50% over the next 25+ years. The city will never be ready for it due to the stumbling buffoons in city hall.

[HuronZephyr]

Originally Posted by K85

I've given up on this city and transit... and a lot of others things. I can't yet convince the family to up and move, but there are very few options available in terms of work / schooling for the kiddo

I'm looking at moving away from London for exactly these reasons. I just need an affordable place to live where there is reasonable access to medical care, shopping and other essential amenities.

The minute I find that place, I'm gone. I've lived here for 35 years, and the city has never really progressed much in that time.

[inimrepus]

Originally Posted by HuronZephyr

The city's population is supposed to increase by 50% over the next 25+ years.

It probably won't end up being growth this high, this was the expected increase using the old immigration targets which have been slashed by quite a bit.