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Old Posted Mar 19, 2008, 4:46 PM
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Does anyone know if there are north/south extension plans for the light rail in tempe? Me and a friend were talking the other day about this and arguing over which road would be best for it. I thought maybe a line running down kyrene then mill would be perfect. Any thoughts?
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There are a few alignments under consideration. See this page for some info.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2008, 11:10 PM
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Thankyou very much that page was very informative. The map you provided was exceptionally informative as well. I'm sorry if this question is kind of naive but it seemed like everyone was arguing over which one was the best. What about having all of them? Of course you would do just one at a time because the traffic would be tremendous but I think eventually have rail on all or most of tempe's north/south streets would be very beneficial. I do like the rural one best though.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 4:03 AM
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^ Yeah, that would be great... but there's not a chance in hell of that happening, and it's overkill for an area with the density of south Tempe/Chandler.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 5:14 AM
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I always hoped Avenue would create Lofts inside the old Mill.
It has been done before- expensive, but possible.
I would love to live inside an old, history rich shell with updated plumbing and electrical!
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 5:41 AM
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That is definitely true. Thanks for the input, very helpful. I do hope at least two of those can get built though, connecting ahwatukhee and the chandler mall to downtown tempe. Do you think writing letters to hallman and city council members would help in speeding things up?
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 5:42 AM
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Oh and does anyone know if there is a scheduled groundbreaking for 100 Mill Avenue? Love that project and can't wait to see it started.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 3:07 PM
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Oh and does anyone know if there is a scheduled groundbreaking for 100 Mill Avenue? Love that project and can't wait to see it started.
Good question. I kind of wonder if they will wait until the US Air building is done. It seems that would be a lot of activity for both of those projects going at the same time but maybe not. I would love it anyway. Anybody know when the US Air building is scheduled to be completed? It would be cool if its opening coincided with the light rail opening.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 5:47 PM
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Anybody know when the US Air building is scheduled to be completed? It would be cool if its opening coincided with the light rail opening.
According to the newspaper article from earlier this year, the Tempe Gateway building is supposed to be complete either by the end of this year or early 2009. I doubt they will finish by the end of the year. My guess is it will be completely finished in the beginning of 2009. Hopefully they will be able to start the Monti's 100 Mill Ave. project while this one is going up too. There would definitely be a lot of construction in one place but I think its perfectly doable.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2008, 6:22 PM
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ASU Main Campus/Tempe new construction photo update.


New Vista Del Sol apartment dorms. From what I know these babies are gonna be off the hook in terms of luxury style campus living.











Barret Honor College construction moving along.(On the corner of Rural Rd. and Apache). There has been a lot of drilling going on.

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Old Posted Mar 21, 2008, 8:13 PM
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Tempe Council gives thumbs-up to Catholic high-rise dorm

http://www.asuwebdevil.com/issues/20...21/news/704256

The hopes of more than 100 area Catholics were fulfilled Thursday night when Tempe City Council members voted unanimously to approve a renovation of the ASU All Saints' Catholic Newman Center.

The renovation will include a new worship chapel, fellowship hall and a 22-story high-rise residence hall for students of all religions who wish to live there. Plans for the dorm include more than 400 rooms.

More than 30 students joined the supporters who filled the council chambers, even though the amount of time needed to complete the project is uncertain, and current ASU students will likely not have the opportunity to live there.

The council approval was only the initial step in the process of renovation.

But Shannon O'Connor, a Newman Center intern and journalism sophomore, said she went the council meeting, event though she believes she will graduate before the project is finished.

"I want future students to have the same community that I was able to find," she said. "[The project] would give students a way to adjust to college through spirituality."

Questions raised by concerned community members included parking constraints and religious favoritism.

Tempe resident and ASU graduate Jonathan Toomes spoke on both issues.

"We have a parking problem in downtown Tempe," he said. "Period."

The development will eliminate the parking spaces currently at the Newman Center building. The center has contracted 10-year leases for 147 parking spaces in adjacent lots on the assumption that most students will not bring cars to campus.

Toomes also raised the possibility that Tempe could face civil rights lawsuits if they do not allow all religious developments the same parking exemptions.

Attorney Charles Huellmantel, who spoke to the council on behalf of the owners and religious leaders of the Newman Center, addressed these concerns.

"Our argument has nothing to do with the fact that we're Catholic," he said, regarding the civil rights question. "If we were not associated with any denomination, we would expect it to be considered the same way."

Huellmantel added that the development would be close enough to the light rail, bus stops and the Orbit shuttles, so students could be expected to use public transportation rather than park cars at the center.

Before calling for a vote, Tempe Mayor Hugh Hallman required a stipulation that the city be given a way to enforce parking requirements.

He also asked that the Newman Center write into the lease that, if students living there have a car, they must have a Newman Center or ASU parking spot for it.

Michael Coakley, executive director of ASU's university housing, said the idea is beneficial for the University.

"I think there is a continued unmet need for student housing," he said. "So any plan of that nature close to campus is a good idea."

The Newman Center is not officially part of the University, but the two have a long-standing affiliate relationship.

The renovation will also benefit the nonstudent community, said Dolores Roach, a Tempe resident.

"Just look at this room," she said, motioning around the council chambers, where every seat was filled and supporters lined the walls. "We've got every age group here from the young students to the old folks like me. It's just wonderful."
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2008, 8:14 PM
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so there is something that you can mark down on the sure to be built list since dorms are not dependent on the economy! The Catholic church should have no problem finding the funds to build this.
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I don't really understand the Newman Center student housing thing... So the Catholic Church is getting into high-rise development now? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the building, i just think it's strange.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2008, 1:28 AM
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I don't really understand the Newman Center student housing thing... So the Catholic Church is getting into high-rise development now? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the building, i just think it's strange.
From what I recall some outside developers--I think it actually might be a company that specifies in religious student housing--approached the Newman Center and they ended up working a deal out that also included their own non-residential renovations.

Glad to see this project moving forward--I think the civil rights argument--whoever made it first--is amazingly petty.
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Anybody know what the new honors college is supposed to look like?
Here are a few renderings from the architect's website. I think they look really nice with the different colored bricks. Better than Hassayampa right next door which looks like socialist block housing, imo! Anyway, it will be a nice addition to the Rural Rd/Apache Blvd. corner. Although, I think there should be more of a "gateway" to the university with some type of decorative sign or fountain at the NW corner of Rural/Apache. It looks nice the way it is but I think an ASU sign of some sorts with a gateway would really be a nice touch.

Looking NE


Street level looking NE with the new crosswalk leading to Vista Del Sol in the foreground.


Looking NW at the Rural Rd/Apache Blvd. intersection


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Also, I found a rendering from the Vista Del Sol website and you can see the gold dome that was taken down from the old visitors center. I guess they decided to use it as a pavillion for shade of some sorts at Vista Del Sol.

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Old Posted Mar 22, 2008, 2:44 AM
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^ Thanks for the info. I'm not going to recognize that place at all in a year or two!
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Also, I found a rendering from the Vista Del Sol website and you can see the gold dome that was taken down from the old visitors center. I guess they decided to use it as a pavillion for shade of some sorts at Vista Del Sol.
Wow, I would be THRILLED if they found a way to incorporate the geodesic dome into the design. That building has such a strong place in my childhood memories of growing up in the Valley. My family had season tickets to ASU football and we'd always drive by that intersection on the way to the games, and I'd stare at that building, it always stood out from the other boring strip centers and blandness that surrounded it, I was really disappointed when they tore it down, but I'm glad the dome itself was saved and I have high hopes for it.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 10:19 PM
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Hayden Flour Mill restoration taking another step forward
The Business Journal of Phoenix - by Jan Buchholz Phoenix Business Journal

Restoration and remodeling of the historic Hayden Flour Mill in Tempe into a modern mixed-use project will move another step forward Tuesday when the developer submits final plans to the city at an on-site ceremony. Details of the plans by Tempe-based Avenue Communities will be unveiled at a press conference Tuesday morning at the mill on the southeast corner of Mill Avenue and Rio Salado Parkway, according to Chris Baxter, Tempe community development and marketing specialist.

Phase I, which will take place this summer, includes cleaning and refurbishing the mill in preparation for reconstruction and new construction. The mill was opened in 1874 and operated until the late 1990s.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 11:02 PM
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Wow, I would be THRILLED if they found a way to incorporate the geodesic dome into the design. That building has such a strong place in my childhood memories of growing up in the Valley. My family had season tickets to ASU football and we'd always drive by that intersection on the way to the games, and I'd stare at that building, it always stood out from the other boring strip centers and blandness that surrounded it, I was really disappointed when they tore it down, but I'm glad the dome itself was saved and I have high hopes for it.
Yes, it shows how new development and historic preservation don't have to be mutually exclusive. Even if it is not practical to save a specific building, the architecturally significant elements can sometimes be reused in another context.
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Thanks for the info HX. I'm glad it's moving forward.

BTW - new user here. Just discovered the site and glad to know I'm not the only one that gets excited by new projects going up in town!
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