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kznyc2k
Feb 1, 2007, 6:47 AM
Because, you see how the glass panels to the left (the ones with the thick spandrel panels) are set forward about a foot more than the glass that wraps around the corner? That glass you see to the left (and right) starts being used on the level where the floor decking no longer indents in, and the framing simply follows suit.

CarlosV
Feb 1, 2007, 6:51 AM
I think he was talking about the steel beams atop where the last panel of glass ends.....8 foors up from the bottom of the picture.....

kznyc2k
Feb 1, 2007, 7:34 AM
I know. I'm saying that the glass at that level 10 or so stories up is no longer recessed 1 foot, and the glass changes from the thin-spandrel type to the thicker stuff seen on the right and left, and the steel framing simply moves out in compensation. That glass we've seen on the corner section will rise no higher than as we see it now.

Fabb
Feb 1, 2007, 8:08 AM
Thanks for the update ! It's taking shape nicely.

DUBAI2015
Feb 1, 2007, 4:05 PM
Because, you see how the glass panels to the left (the ones with the thick spandrel panels) are set forward about a foot more than the glass that wraps around the corner? That glass you see to the left (and right) starts being used on the level where the floor decking no longer indents in, and the framing simply follows suit.

Oh Okay :tup:

kznyc2k
Feb 1, 2007, 5:06 PM
Yeah, hopefully that made sense.. it wasn't the easiest thing in the world for me to word.

JACKinBeantown
Feb 1, 2007, 5:48 PM
January 31, 2007

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/BofA20070131.jpg

ZZ-II
Feb 1, 2007, 7:59 PM
wow, what a great pic :)

NYguy
Feb 5, 2007, 1:31 PM
January 31, 2007

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/BofA20070131.jpg


Sky House, BofA....BofA, Sky House...

BINARY SYSTEM
Feb 5, 2007, 3:24 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/373695753_31b95762c8_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/379155414_d3836b79ce_o.jpg

http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bsa25/images/DrFrankenstein.jpg
Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive.........It's aliiiIIve,...it's moving, IT'S ALIVE! :jester: The Beast is coming along very smoothly, poking out into the midtown skyline!

Fabb
Feb 5, 2007, 3:38 PM
Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive.........It's aliiiIIve,...it's moving, IT'S ALIVE!

It's not moving.
It's only a green building.
It stays put.

I like it that way. I understand your excitement though.

BINARY SYSTEM
Feb 5, 2007, 4:29 PM
Thank you for inputting your useless misunderstanding of a little movie joke and sense of humor. :tup:

Fabb
Feb 5, 2007, 4:51 PM
That's why I should use emoticons once in a while. Some people take me way too seriously.

Anyway, nice photos !

CoolCzech
Feb 5, 2007, 5:20 PM
It's not moving.
It's only a green building.
It stays put.

I like it that way. I understand your excitement though.


Well, it is growing...
:omg:

colemonkee
Feb 6, 2007, 4:04 AM
Binary, that sunset (or is it sunrise?) shot is sublime.

sask1982
Feb 6, 2007, 4:13 AM
What's going on here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/curtis1982/379155414_d3836b79ce_o.jpg

kznyc2k
Feb 6, 2007, 5:15 AM
Binary, that sunset (or is it sunrise?) shot is sublime.

It's a sunset shot.

NYguy
Feb 6, 2007, 12:39 PM
NY Post

VIEW FROM THE TOWER
BOFA'S SKYSCRAPER IS SYMBOL OF PROSPERITY

http://www.nypost.com/img/cols/stevecuozzo.jpg

February 6, 2007

TOURING the skeletal innards of Bank of America Tower at 1 Bryant Park, the fast-rising 54-story skyscraper at Sixth Avenue and 42nd Street, is to witness Manhattan's post-9/11 renaissance in bloom.

The primary evidence is the skyscraper itself, a joint venture of the Durst Organization and BofA and owned by both: a striking, multi-faceted, environmentally-advanced edifice brimming with public amenities.

A mere 100,000 square feet of office space remain unclaimed of a total 2.1 million square feet.

Yesterday, Douglas Durst inked a deal with Marathon Asset Management for 66,000 square feet.

It follows recent signings with law firm Akin Gump and fashion company Elie Tahari; both are paying well over $100 a square foot.

Ever-growing BofA will occupy 80 percent of the office floors, including 300,000 square feet of trading floors.

The view from the 29th floor - now a jungle-gym of exposed steel, piping and concrete-pouring forms - takes in a neighboring symbol of prosperity: the former Verizon building across the street, now being completely redesigned and reclad.

The Durst/BofA project will open in April 2008.

Designed by Cook + Fox Architects, it will be one of the city's tallest towers, rising 965 feet to the roof. An ornamental vertical spire will soar to 1,200 feet, taller than the Chrysler Building's 1,048 feet.

"The spire is being built as we speak," Durst said.

In addition to a $1.3 billion development cost shared by Durst and BofA, the bank will spend an undisclosed amount on infrastructure build-out for what bank Senior VP John G. Saclarides calls "a building within the building."

The project is larger and much more complex than 4 Times Square next door, the pioneering 42nd Street tower Durst built in the 1990s.

Besides state-of-the-art electronics and security systems and "green features" that have earned rare LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) "platinum" certification, it also boasts numerous humanizing features.

A wide, indoor pedestrian walkway between 42nd and 43rd Street is to be named "Anita's Way" after Durst's performance-artist daughter, Anita.

Durst is creating a new Sixth Avenue subway entrance outside the building and an underground pedestrian passageway to link the Sixth/42nd Station with the Times Square station one block west.

An "urban garden" inside the lobby will have ivy planting and seating.

BofA will have a large retail branch on the avenue and there will be 14,000 square feet of stores to browse.

On the tower's 43rd Street side, Durst has sunk the 1,050 seats of the Henry Miller Theater below ground. The restored venue will be leased to a theatrical operator. A 10,000 square-foot restaurant will stand on two levels behind the theater's landmarked façade.

austin356
Feb 6, 2007, 8:52 PM
Why is it that most buildings in NY are steel and most here are concrete? I love watching the speed of BOA, twice the pace of construction here.

Dac150
Feb 6, 2007, 8:56 PM
^^^^^There are not as many natural weather obstacles in NYC such as large hurricanes, earthquakes.... The buildings in this city do not need that much rienforcement.

STERNyc
Feb 6, 2007, 9:07 PM
Why is it that most buildings in NY are steel and most here are concrete? I love watching the speed of BOA, twice the pace of construction here.

I'm guessing by "here" you mean Austin. As a matter of fact most buildings in NYC right now are built with concrete, that is because most new buildings in NYC are residential. Residential buildings are built with concrete because the construction costs are less. Most commercial buildings are built with steel because often times tenants rent more than one floor in a building and there are requirements to run wiring and other technology from floor to floor. Sometimes a commercial tenant will even remove sections from there floors in order to create an atrium and a connection and circulation. This is all possible with steel, it is however almost impossible with concrete as it would threaten the buildings structural integrity.

STERNyc
Feb 6, 2007, 9:16 PM
^^^^^There are not as many natural weather obstacles in NYC such as large hurricanes, earthquakes.... The buildings in this city do not need that much rienforcement.

That's not true at all. NYC does get hit by hurricanes and it is located on a fault line. Just because a catastrophe doesn't hit often that doesn't mean that buildings codes aren't strict and that buildings are required to be built with extra reinforcements.

kznyc2k
Feb 6, 2007, 10:28 PM
Another point with steel versus concrete, you can achieve much longer spans between columns with steel, which is a big plus for companies that require trading floors or other large open-floor plans.

JACKinBeantown
Feb 8, 2007, 4:43 PM
February 8, 2007

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/BofA20070208.jpg

LostInTheZone
Feb 8, 2007, 6:01 PM
How come some of those white steel beams are bent in like that? :shrug:

I want to ask Liebskind that every time he designs a building:)

looking good though- glad to see the silkscreening isn't going in over the whole facade, it works pretty well as an accent.

NYC2ATX
Feb 8, 2007, 8:59 PM
That's not true at all. NYC does get hit by hurricanes and it is located on a fault line. Just because a catastrophe doesn't hit often that doesn't mean that buildings codes aren't strict and that buildings are required to be built with extra reinforcements.

umm, what fault line would that be? :sly:

STERNyc
Feb 8, 2007, 9:36 PM
umm, what fault line would that be? :sly:

ummm, doy, it would umm be the fault line that runs approximately right up 6th Avenue, right up the middle of Manhattan. Look it up, its also the reason that every building in NYC must be built atleast 6 inches from its neighbor.

BINARY SYSTEM
Feb 8, 2007, 10:23 PM
Binary, that sunset (or is it sunrise?) shot is sublime. Sun sets in the West my friend. (Jersey)

Don't want to bite anybody's sh*t,...so here is another great photo from CinemaCowgirl.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/381214466_f0a981b832_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cinemacowgirl/

NYguy
Feb 9, 2007, 1:10 PM
February 8, 2007

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/BofA20070208.jpg


And Manhattan grows ever more dense...:banana:

Sky House and BofA never looked so good together. Who knew?

ZZ-II
Feb 9, 2007, 9:25 PM
what's with the empty place next to the BoA? is it a park or a plot for another new tower?

Dac150
Feb 9, 2007, 9:35 PM
Is it possible for someone to post a current pic more close to the tower itself. Jack..nothin against you, but it's hard to see the progress.

ramvid01
Feb 10, 2007, 1:51 AM
umm, what fault line would that be? :sly:

Theres a fault line also on 125th Street. Thats the reason the 1,9 (I think its these lines) goes elevated at 125th street, because of the fault line.

skymetalscraper
Feb 10, 2007, 8:25 AM
what's with the empty place next to the BoA? is it a park or a plot for another new tower?
i think it's bryant park

NYguy
Feb 10, 2007, 1:52 PM
what's with the empty place next to the BoA? is it a park or a plot for another new tower?

Depends on what or which side of the street you're talking about.

ramvid01
Feb 10, 2007, 5:52 PM
Its definitely Bryant Park. One of my favorites in the city :).

NYguy
Feb 12, 2007, 1:04 PM
amny

Going for the 'green' in NYC

By Justin Rocket Silverman
February 9, 2007T

The largest icemaker in Manhattan is being built across the street from Bryant Park.

No, the 300 tons of ice it will make and store won't be used for cocktail parties. The icemaker is part of an innovative cooling system that will keep the 55-story Bank of America Tower chilled all summer, using only a fraction of the energy of traditional air conditioners.

This is just one feature in what is slated to become the most environmentally sustainable skyscraper in the nation when it opens in spring 2008 on the northwest corner of 42nd Street and Sixth Avenue.

As New York struggles to reduce its carbon footprint, the city has become a showcase for "green building" technology, with both Seven World Trade Center and the Hearst Tower qualifying for gold certification from the U.S. Green Building Council.

But even the greenest buildings in the city won't match the technology being installed in the bank tower, which is aiming for platinum certification.

Instead of overheat vents, the builders are employing an under-floor ventilation system, in which air will literally rise from the ground.

Carbon dioxide monitors will automatically inject fresh air into the structure if the offices become too stuffy. Nearly all of the wastewater produced by the building will be recycled, and used for things like watering the rooftop gardens.

"The biggest challenge is that everything is new," said Jordan Barowitz, a spokesman for The Durst Organization, which is building the tower in conjunction with Bank of America. "The easiest way to build is to do exactly what you have done in the past. Here everything is an innovation, nothing has been done before."

While the tower won't be the first platinum-certified high-rise in the country, at 1,200 feet tall and with 2.1 million square feet of floor space, it certainly will be the largest. (There are about 30 platinum-certified buildings nationwide.)

If successful, the $1.3 billion tower could launch a wave of platinum-rated buildings in the city. Research in the past decade shows a clear increase in productivity and fewer sick days among workers in green buildings, giving corporations a tangible, profit-driven incentive to go green.

"This will be the landmark building that marked the tipping point in the market, where green stopped being called alternative, and became instead the preferred commercial standard," said Charles Lockwood, an environmental and real estate consultant.

Lockwood predicted that green technology would soon be seen as essential to a 21st-century building as air conditioning was in the last century.

Boston and Washington D.C. already mandate green features in most new construction. New York City¹s Local Law 86 establishes green standards for energy and water use in publicly funded buildings, but stop short of requiring them in private construction done without public funds.

Still, Debra Taylor of the Department of Buildings said that more private builders are taking the green initiative on their own, both to save money on energy costs and to improve worker performance. Though these buildings initially cost more to construct, proponents argue that the energy-saving features save money in the long run.

"There are still people who are concerned about cost, but cost is proving to be less and less of a concern," Taylor said. "The learning curve is being surmounted."

Tower's 'green' features:

- Floor-to-ceiling windows let in the maximum amount of natural light. - Insulating window glass and double-wall technology retains heat during the winter, and keeps it out during the summer. -Each floor has its own temperature controls for more efficient cooling. -Under-floor ventilation keeps air circulating better than traditional vents. -Carbon dioxide monitors allow injections of fresh air as needed. -Air filters remove 95 percent of particles, making the interior air cleaner than air outside. -Gray-water recycling system reduces burden on city sewers by reusing waste and rainwater within the building. -Rooftop gardens cool building and reduce "heat island" effect that makes all of Manhattan hotter in the summer. -About half the building is made from recycled materials

The tower by the numbers:

-2.1 million square feet
-1,200 feet tall including glass spire
-$1.3B: development and construction cost
-80%: amount of space The Bank of America will occupy in the tower
-$100+: price per square foot paid by tenants such as Akin Gump law firm and Elie Tahari fashion company.

http://www.amny.com/media/photo/2007-02/27866776.jpg


http://www.amny.com/media/photo/2007-02/27866777.jpg


http://www.amny.com/media/photo/2007-02/27866707.jpg


http://www.amny.com/media/photo/2007-02/27866714.jpg

Bank of America Tower construction site.
Feb 11, 2007

BINARY SYSTEM
Feb 12, 2007, 1:16 PM
Taken 2 days ago! :tup:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/381292750_4a83785550_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/387385016_ae819df2b2_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ransford/

NYguy
Feb 12, 2007, 1:30 PM
FEBRUARY 11, 2007

Good to see this tower making the press more. It's beginning to have that
impact that will make people look up and think "that's tall..."

Unlike most other New York greats, it will never be the tallest in the city, but
it will be second tallest for a little while. That counts for something in
a city with so many skyscrapers...

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289522/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289534/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289537/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289543/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289545/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289571/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289571/medium.jpg_http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289603/medium.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289603/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289604/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289605/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289607/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289610/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289634/large.jpg

Fabb
Feb 12, 2007, 1:42 PM
Great update !
I know I'll love that one.

ZZ-II
Feb 12, 2007, 2:00 PM
wow, massive update. thank you

Ghost
Feb 12, 2007, 4:04 PM
Great update NYguy! I can try to photoshop again one of those pics to the render...
EDIT:
http://i4.tinypic.com/4dhi2a9.jpg
I had to scale it lot so it's not so perfect...

Dac150
Feb 12, 2007, 7:53 PM
Thanks so much NYGuy!

CoolCzech
Feb 12, 2007, 10:07 PM
http://i4.tinypic.com/4dhi2a9.jpg

Let's all Thank God that this is the tower that good put up facing Bryant Park, rather than (gulp) the NY Times tower... :runaway:

Dac150
Feb 12, 2007, 11:25 PM
This thing is really rising fast. I'm sure that'll be the case with the FT. Long wait to ground level, but once the thing gets there: BOOM it rises overnight. Anyway glad to see it where it is.

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 12:19 AM
Let's all Thank God that this is the tower that good put up facing Bryant Park, rather than (gulp) the NY Times tower...

Funny. I've been thinking the exact oppisite for a long time. As much as I think this is a nice tower, well...it's just a nice tower, and that's about it. Heck it might even be very good, I'll hold my judgment. The New York Times Tower, on the other hand, is imo the greatest skyscraper under construction in America. One of the greatest ever. And I'm not alone--an AIA poll of over 2,100 randomly chosen people slected the NYTT as the 79th greatest piece of American architecture (building, bridge or memorial) of all time. I thought it would take a while for the public to warm up to this masterpiece, but the people didn't even wait for this thing to be done to fall in love. The Times building should be on Bryant Park, not this one.

NYguy
Feb 13, 2007, 12:21 AM
Great update NYguy! I can try to photoshop again one of those pics to the render...


Also, try to do it with the new Verizon facade.

NYguy
Feb 13, 2007, 12:23 AM
The New York Times Tower, on the other hand, is imo the greatest skyscraper under construction in America. One of the greatest ever.

You're obviously drunk.

NYguy
Feb 13, 2007, 12:25 AM
Another look at the massiveness of this tower...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289610/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289604/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74289537/original.jpg

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 12:45 AM
You're obviously drunk.

what about the 2100 people polled by the AIA? Were they drunk too?

Is there a possibility that you just have bad taste? Rhetorical question--no need for a response.

CoolCzech
Feb 13, 2007, 1:26 AM
And I'm not alone--an AIA poll of over 2,100 randomly chosen people slected the NYTT as the 79th greatest piece of American architecture (building, bridge or memorial) of all time. I thought it would take a while for the public to warm up to this masterpiece, but the people didn't even wait for this thing to be done to fall in love. The Times building should be on Bryant Park, not this one.

2,100 randomly chosen people walk around thinking about at least 79 of the greatest pieces of American architecture of all time?

Hell, I'm interested in architecture and I'm not sure I could name 79 works. Are you sure that wasn't 2,100 randomly chosen people that were shown a slideshow of 100 buildings that they were asked to rank? If so... I'm not sure No. 79 would really be all that great.

MONACO
Feb 13, 2007, 1:45 AM
:slob:

MY GOD....the NYTT is one of the biggest disappointments in my live (after my 2nd marriage). It is a decent structure.....but lets face it, so much more could have been done. I've got great hopes for the BOA tower.

Hoodrat
Feb 13, 2007, 2:32 AM
Funny. I've been thinking the exact oppisite for a long time. As much as I think this is a nice tower, well...it's just a nice tower, and that's about it. Heck it might even be very good, I'll hold my judgment. The New York Times Tower, on the other hand, is imo the greatest skyscraper under construction in America. One of the greatest ever. And I'm not alone--an AIA poll of over 2,100 randomly chosen people slected the NYTT as the 79th greatest piece of American architecture (building, bridge or memorial) of all time. I thought it would take a while for the public to warm up to this masterpiece, but the people didn't even wait for this thing to be done to fall in love. The Times building should be on Bryant Park, not this one.

At least someone's got the balls to say it.

NYT is far greater than the faux-deco, iconoclastic lovin' motherfuckers on this forum would admit. Y'all need to get out a bit, and quit lusting after these overdone flashy piles in Charlotte, Nashville, et.al.

Ever notice how well NYT would look in a city like Tokyo or Milan?

STERNyc
Feb 13, 2007, 2:37 AM
Funny. I've been thinking the exact oppisite for a long time. As much as I think this is a nice tower, well...it's just a nice tower, and that's about it. Heck it might even be very good, I'll hold my judgment. The New York Times Tower, on the other hand, is imo the greatest skyscraper under construction in America. One of the greatest ever. And I'm not alone--an AIA poll of over 2,100 randomly chosen people slected the NYTT as the 79th greatest piece of American architecture (building, bridge or memorial) of all time. I thought it would take a while for the public to warm up to this masterpiece, but the people didn't even wait for this thing to be done to fall in love. The Times building should be on Bryant Park, not this one.

As already mentioned it was a popularity contest based on name recognition from a small pool. The NYTIMES inclusion ranks right up there with the two New York Apple store's that also made the list, ipod anyone?

This is architecturally superior, to oh say the Seagram Building?

http://macfannet.mycom.co.jp/special/MWCExpoNY2002/images/020719applestoreSOHO/010.jpg

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 8:22 AM
2,100 randomly chosen people walk around thinking about at least 79 of the greatest pieces of American architecture of all time?

Hell, I'm interested in architecture and I'm not sure I could name 79 works. Are you sure that wasn't 2,100 randomly chosen people that were shown a slideshow of 100 buildings that they were asked to rank? If so... I'm not sure No. 79 would really be all that great.

2400 Architects with membership to AIA were told to nominate a number of buildings, structures and memorials for consideration. Of over a 1000 nominees, 247 received the necessary amount of votes to go on to the public ratings. 2100 randomly chosen Americans were asked to rate each building with photographs of each. After statistical analysis a final list of the top 150 pieces of American architecture was recently released. All results are statistacally significant. What that means is that the buildings on the list are the buildings Americans like the most, under the condition that they were deemed worthy of consideration by architects. Naturally New York dominates the list. Old stuff was definitely more popular than new stuff. The international style was represented solely by the UN building, but Seagram and Lever were left off. A few modern buildings did well, especially the new ones on eighth Ave. Hearst, NYTT and TWC all ranked in the top 105. And the NYTIMES was 68th, not 79th. I was mistaken.

What does that mean? Well if you believe that popular opinion is a lot more important than critical (ie message board) opinion in determining the legacy of a skyscraper, then it means a lot. Remember, the most vocal critics absolutely panned the Chrysler Building after it was built. People loved it anyway. Who was right?

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 8:25 AM
:slob:

MY GOD....the NYTT is one of the biggest disappointments in my live (after my 2nd marriage). It is a decent structure.....but lets face it, so much more could have been done. I've got great hopes for the BOA tower.

Thats a pretty sorry post. Kind of funny, but definitely pitiful.

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 8:38 AM
As already mentioned it was a popularity contest based on name recognition from a small pool. The NYTIMES inclusion ranks right up there with the two New York Apple store's that also made the list, ipod anyone?

This is architecturally superior, to oh say the Seagram Building?


The international style is severely out of fashion right now. brutalism even more so. Some day people will appreciate Seagram and Lever again.

And you are absolutely wrong, it wasn't a small pool. How about you do some research next time. Each of 2400 members of the AIA was given the oppurtunity to make 20 nominations before the list was winnowed to 250 for the final vote. If its on the list, it is at the very least, one of the 250 most popular buildings amongst people in the know; and on top of that it is among the favorite buildings in the eyes of the American public. It's that simple. This building is a modern masterpiece, whether you like it or not.

Cheers.

antinimby
Feb 13, 2007, 10:27 AM
http://macfannet.mycom.co.jp/special/MWCExpoNY2002/images/020719applestoreSOHO/010.jpgThis thing is begging for a glassy tower addition to its top.

NYguy
Feb 13, 2007, 12:44 PM
what about the 2100 people polled by the AIA? Were they drunk too?

If they made the comments you did, then they were either drunk, or blind.


Is there a possibility that you just have bad taste? Rhetorical question--no need for a response.

Yeah, right.

To answer your question - NO!

NYguy
Feb 13, 2007, 12:47 PM
At least someone's got the balls to say it.

NYT is far greater than the faux-deco, iconoclastic lovin' motherfuckers on this forum would admit. Y'all need to get out a bit, and quit lusting after these overdone flashy piles in Charlotte, Nashville, et.al.

Ever notice how well NYT would look in a city like Tokyo or Milan?

Oh please, where do they get these people from? If you even bothered to read the NY Times thread itself, you would see that it has plenty of backers.

The fact remains, its an eyesore. I see it all too often, and very little has changed. AS far as how "well" it would look in a city like Tokyo or Milan, well Manhattan aint Tokyo, and it sure is hell aint Milan.

pico44
Feb 13, 2007, 3:45 PM
Oh please, where do they get these people from? If you even bothered to read the NY Times thread itself, you would see that it has plenty of backers.

The fact remains, its an eyesore.



Is that a fact? So are you the one deciding these things nowadays? Wow.

Your criticism is farcical.

NYonward
Feb 13, 2007, 7:19 PM
^ No matter how much I like the NY Times tower (I think its a great design and even better in person) it is truly pointless arguing about opinions. Moreso, its annoying to argue about opinions on the wrong thread entirely. PM is a better option.

ZZ-II
Feb 13, 2007, 8:52 PM
great new pics

Thskyscraper
Feb 13, 2007, 9:40 PM
^ No matter how much I like the NY Times tower (I think its a great design and even better in person) it is truly pointless arguing about opinions. Moreso, its annoying to argue about opinions on the wrong thread entirely. PM is a better option.

Agreed. There is no right answer. Some will see it as an eyesore, some will see it as a good work of architecture (as I do). Arguing about it won't result in anyone being right.

Anyway back to the BOFA Tower. This thing is a mammoth! Well I really like it, I have to go down there and take a look. I was at my aunt's apartment on 112st just north of Central Park, the crane is already peaking out in the skyline, so when this tower tops out it should make a nice impact on the skyline.

CoolCzech
Feb 15, 2007, 12:07 AM
The international style is severely out of fashion right now. brutalism even more so. Some day people will appreciate Seagram and Lever again.

And you are absolutely wrong, it wasn't a small pool. How about you do some research next time. Each of 2400 members of the AIA was given the oppurtunity to make 20 nominations before the list was winnowed to 250 for the final vote. If its on the list, it is at the very least, one of the 250 most popular buildings amongst people in the know; and on top of that it is among the favorite buildings in the eyes of the American public. It's that simple. This building is a modern masterpiece, whether you like it or not.

Cheers.

Oh, GEE... one second its "2,400 randomly chosen" people, and the next its suddenly 2,400 members of the AIA. I still think that No. 78 or whatever it was out of 250 is pretty mediocre. what was No. 64, the local Walmart?

kznyc2k
Feb 15, 2007, 3:47 AM
The international style is severely out of fashion right now. brutalism even more so. Some day people will appreciate Seagram and Lever again.

It is? I look at today's generation of glassy towers and all I see are 1950s international style designs with a few random cuts and other "alterations" to make it look like it came from the generation of Gehry and the deconstructivists.

I mean, look at this base - put it on Park Ave circa 1963 and it would be completely at home.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8713/nyconebryantpark4sh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Goody
Feb 15, 2007, 3:50 AM
^ I never would have noticed but that base is wicked vintage looking

i_am_hydrogen
Feb 15, 2007, 4:05 AM
For whatever reason, I sort of slept on this project until now. What a beautiful design and a great addition to New York's skyline. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.

pico44
Feb 15, 2007, 4:13 PM
It is? I look at today's generation of glassy towers and all I see are 1950s international style designs with a few random cuts and other "alterations" to make it look like it came from the generation of Gehry and the deconstructivists.

I mean, look at this base - put it on Park Ave circa 1963 and it would be completely at home.



Exactly why I think this building is less than exceptional.

antinimby
Feb 15, 2007, 5:10 PM
^ Show me an example of something exceptional then.

STERNyc
Feb 15, 2007, 6:24 PM
^ Show me an example of something exceptional then.

Do you even need to ask antinimby? He' going to post a photo of the NYTIMES Tower and then call you an idiot, or me an idiot, its entirely predictable. :rolleyes:

Fabb
Feb 15, 2007, 6:40 PM
Do you even need to ask antinimby? He' going to post a photo of the NYTIMES Tower and then call you an idiot, or me an idiot, its entirely predictable. :rolleyes:

Oh, no.

It is strictly forbidden to post a photo of the NYTimes in this thread.

As a matter of fact, it is forbidden to mention it in this thread.

Sometimes, I even have the impression that it is forbidden to make a positive statement about it anywhere in this forum. (Just an impression, probably, but it's definitely frowned upon).

Back to BofA : the base does have a nice vintage look. But I suspect that the rendering, not the design itself, gives this impression.

STERNyc
Feb 15, 2007, 8:13 PM
I wasn't addressing you, stop making trouble.

pico44
Feb 16, 2007, 2:52 PM
^ Show me an example of something exceptional then.

I don't want to go through the trouble of posting pictures but I'll tell you. As far as proposed and under construction skyscrapers I would say Foster's 2wtc is exceptional. Calatrava's proposals for 80 South St and version B of the Fordham Spire were exceptional. Roger's 3wtc and Silvercup West are a little less than exceptional, but still fantastic. Most exceptional of all? The New York Times Tower.

-GR2NY-
Feb 16, 2007, 3:05 PM
Most exceptional of all? The New York Times Tower.

I dont care who hates me.. agreed.

-GR2NY-
Feb 16, 2007, 3:14 PM
Ghost, well done. This things a monster!!

http://i4.tinypic.com/4dhi2a9.jpg

because of its bulk not a lot of people will realize how tall it is.

Citizen
Feb 16, 2007, 4:07 PM
The Flagpole should NOT be included in the height. Nonetheless, I like the skin. Much better than that NYT prison structure. ;-)

Ghost
Feb 17, 2007, 10:17 AM
Also, try to do it with the new Verizon facade.
You mean like this? Or...?

http://i19.tinypic.com/3ygvibn.jpg http://i15.tinypic.com/4i30obd.jpg
That Verizon reder was whole different angel, so I've done pritty much everything with it to match it :)
In fact, the render I used is this. Is that even the correct one?
http://i15.tinypic.com/34rggsj.jpg

NYRY85
Feb 18, 2007, 2:03 AM
http://i19.tinypic.com/3ygvibn.jpg

i think its 100% better this way. wow.

Thskyscraper
Feb 19, 2007, 2:03 PM
:previous: I agree. Who would have thunk that green glass would make such a difference?:D The 'new' Verizon building compliments the BOFA tower, that's nice.

NYguy
Feb 19, 2007, 2:08 PM
That's true...

You mean like this? Or...?

http://i19.tinypic.com/3ygvibn.jpg http://i15.tinypic.com/4i30obd.jpg

Now if they could just add a spire to the (former) Verizon...;)

NYguy
Feb 19, 2007, 2:13 PM
FEBRUARY 18, 2007

Another look at the latest marvel of Manhattan...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572793/medium.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572835/medium.jpg_http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572820/medium.jpg


1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572793/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572801/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572820/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572824/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572835/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572849/large.jpg

NYC2ATX
Feb 19, 2007, 5:29 PM
I can't wait to see when the glass reaches the setbacks, and the shape really begins to form. That's going to really be a spectacle.

NYguy
Feb 20, 2007, 12:01 AM
I can't wait to see when the glass reaches the setbacks, and the shape really begins to form. That's going to really be a spectacle.


You can somewhat get an idea from watching the frame...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572849/medium.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/74572835/medium.jpg

CHAPINM1
Feb 21, 2007, 2:16 PM
Great updates! Could anyone tell me exactly what floor the current construction progress is at? I counted about a week back and counted roughly 35 floors but I'm sure that has changed since then. I also counted 10 floors on the glass but a second opinion would be great! If anyone could please tell me what the current count is, thanks in advance! :D

antinimby
Feb 21, 2007, 6:29 PM
It's hard to count accurately using those NYGuy photos. So don't even bother.

NYguy
Feb 21, 2007, 7:42 PM
I have no idea what floor it's up to. I only know that it's already soaring. As far as what the developer's been up to, he's reformed the Committee for a Reasonable World Trade Center (see Freedom Tower).

NYguy
Feb 21, 2007, 8:02 PM
Too bad another million square feet couldn't be added to this tower...

(globest.com)

BofA Tower Adds Another Tenant to Roster

By Katie Hinderer

Marathon Asset Management LLC, diversified hedge fund and investment management firm, has signed on for 75,792 sf at the 2.1-million-sf One Bryant Park. Under a 10-year lease, Marathon will occupy the entire 37th and 38th floors of the 51-story tower being developed by the Durst Organization and Bank of America.

“Their philosophy of looking beyond the short-term and understanding the long-term impacts of their investments makes them a perfect tenant for the Bank of America Tower,” says Durst co-president Douglas Durst, in a statement. “One Bryant Park’s technological, green and high-performance user innovations will produce the optimal work environment and yield abundant economic and environmental dividends for Marathon.”

The choice to locate at the environmentally friendly One Bryant Park comes after a 10-month search. CB Richard Ellis’ Mary Ann Tighe conducted the search and negotiated the deal on behalf of Marathon.

“Marathon is committed to providing its staff with an ideal work environment, an investment in our future that will add to the firm’s overall productivity as the Bank of America Tower is the most technologically advanced, environmentally friendly, and centrally located building in Manhattan,” says Marathon COO Andrew Rabinowitz.

The first tenants are slated to move in during the first quarter 2008, but a spokesperson for Durst says there is no date set yet for all the tenants to be in and functioning in the building. Several firms have already signed on to lease space. Elie Tahari LTD, a clothing designer, will lease the entire 50th floor. Durst has taken the 48th and 49th floors, while Bank of America will occupy 1.63 million sf on 37 floors. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, a law firm, agreed in August to inhabit six floors.

The lease rates for the deals have not been disclosed, but previous estimates put the asking rent north of $100 per square foot. Bank of America expects to occupy the entire building in the future. The spokesperson says only 66,000 sf remain to be filled, putting the building at 97% occupancy.

After the merger of SL Green and Reckson Associates Realty, Marathon backed an investment group of former Reckson executives to purchase $2 billion in non-core assets from SL Green

phillyskyline
Feb 22, 2007, 1:31 AM
Absoutely stunning!

CarlosV
Feb 26, 2007, 5:51 AM
Another cold day in Gotham.....February 22, 2007


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2007/CIMG1336.jpg

CHAPINM1
Feb 26, 2007, 3:17 PM
It appears they will be working on floors 36 and 37 next...

antinimby
Feb 26, 2007, 8:07 PM
Doesn't look very tall to me.

Dac150
Feb 26, 2007, 8:28 PM
^^^^Are you kidding, look at it compared to the buildings surrounding it. If that thing isn't tall, then consider me Miles Davis.

NYC2ATX
Feb 27, 2007, 12:47 AM
Doesn't look very tall to me.

You won't get a sense of the height until near the end, because this one's not as skinny as some of her neighbors.

BINARY SYSTEM
Feb 28, 2007, 1:49 AM
02/27/07... getting taller by the day! :hyper:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/403402538_1c46052b5e_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/403402252_d3cf88fa22_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/droprename/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/404599308_eedc75ce56_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arno-4m/

Daquan13
Feb 28, 2007, 2:25 AM
You mean like this? Or...?

http://i19.tinypic.com/3ygvibn.jpg http://i15.tinypic.com/4i30obd.jpg
That Verizon reder was whole different angel, so I've done pritty much everything with it to match it :)
In fact, the render I used is this. Is that even the correct one?
http://i15.tinypic.com/34rggsj.jpg



It looks almost like 7 WTC in a way.:banana:

TechTalkGuy
Feb 28, 2007, 3:12 AM
Hello everyone.

I've been on a vacation, so to speak.

I just recently upgraded (switched) to a Mac so I will hopefully produce better photos for my contributions to this forum.

Cheers! :)

NYC32
Feb 28, 2007, 4:02 AM
:) Welcome Back Fish

Dougall5505
Feb 28, 2007, 3:20 PM
do you like your mac? It definetly would be a big upgrade over any pc

JACKinBeantown
Feb 28, 2007, 4:53 PM
February 28, 2007

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/BofA20070228.jpg

kznyc2k
Feb 28, 2007, 5:00 PM
Love that view, Jack. It's the best for getting a straight-up honest depiction of the tower's progress. And once again I'm going to post it over on WiredNY.


..and cheers to Fish on his purchase. I own a Mac and a PC, and all I'll say is that I spend about 80% of my computing time on the Mac.