[Burnaby] King and Park | 64,60,52,38,31 fl | Proposed

[Spr0ckets]

Council approved the Central Park Commons project at the site of the Telus Boot to go ahead with the 5 tower development.

No word on the proposed possible new skytrain stop at the site or whether this is still under consideration or in discussion between the city and the developer.

Earlier this week, Burnaby City Council approved a major redevelopment plan that will enable a new infill high-density development called Central Park Commons.

This also follows the property’s transaction in 2024. The project was originally spearheaded by developer PC Urban, before it was taken over by developer Anthem Properties following H&R Real Estate Investment’s Trust’s sale of a 50 per cent ownership interest in the development to Crestpoint Real Estate Investments. The project’s architectural design firm is Arcadis.

Dwarfing the 21-storey Boot tower and the recently completed towers on the Vancouver side of Boundary Road, five new additional towers will be built on the property’s surface vehicle parking lots and other vacant spaces to the east and north of the existing tower.

The new towers will reach 31, 38, 52, 60, and 64 storeys in height. To enable the footprint of one of the new towers, a portion of the base podium of the L-shaped Boot tower will be demolished, specifically the 10-storey base podium that fronts Boundary Road. This is expected to reduce the office tower’s floor area from 687,000 sq. ft. to 512,000 sq. ft.

Source :-


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/central-park-commons-telus-boot-burnaby-approved

[officedweller]

A supermarket might work there, because it would probably be closer walking distance to Collingwood Village than the Safeway up on Kingsway.

[vanman]

Central Park Commons update. Pics taken on April 16.

[Feathered Friend]

[jollyburger]

Anthem, Crestpoint kick off mixed-use masterplan at the 'Boot'

The first phase, now under construction, will include 724 rental homes in a pair of 38- and 34-storey towers over a shared podium.

The first phase also includes the renovation of The Boot, a 21-storey, 512,000-square-foot office tower initially built in 1976. The full plan aims for five towers, including three towers in the next phase with 1,559 condos and 252 non-market rental units.

Blackwell told RENX the renovation of The Boot is ongoing with existing tenants remaining in their office spaces throughout the process. Demolition has already completed on an adjoining 10-storey tower that was added to the complex in the 1980s. That section of the property will make way for the condo buildings in a future phase.

The office building is currently 17 per cent leased, Crestpoint told RENX. It was initially designed as a single-tenant building for Telus until the telecom company shifted its main offices to Telus Garden in downtown Vancouver.

He said a future phase of the project will add more than 40,000 square feet of commercial-retail space, and the first rental towers are expected to complete in 2030.

https://renx.ca/the-boot-office-tower-gets-upgraded-in-burnaby-as-part-of-master-plan-redev

[officedweller]

The towers on the right look very 90s with the oversized grids - think Paris Place (Int'l Village) and Waterfront Centre.

[jollyburger]

From Google Maps it's hard to imagine how two towers squeeze in between the existing office tower and the Skytrain guideway.

Another angle



Credit: Anthem

[Lexus]

Seems like it’s time for a new thread….. i’ll try to make one if I have time

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Lexus

Seems like it’s time for a new thread….. i’ll try to make one if I have time

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. It's probably a good time to do it.

Phase 2 (Boundary North)
T1 Up to 64 storeys
T2 Up to 60 storeys
T3 Up to 52 storeys
Phase 1 (Kingsway South)
T4 Up to 31 storeys
T5 Up to 38 storeys

https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=73390

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

From Google Maps it's hard to imagine how two towers squeeze in between the existing office tower and the Skytrain guideway.

I think they'll be a lot skinnier than shown in that rendering.

[griswold]

Feels like there should be a Skytrain station here if they're going to build all of this

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by griswold

Feels like there should be a Skytrain station here if they're going to build all of this

They said they've considered it but seems like low odds that it ever gets built.

Also need to chance this to U/C

[Lexus]

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[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by griswold

Feels like there should be a Skytrain station here if they're going to build all of this

I think if this project were to get fully built out, as well as the other Telus tower proposal project for the lot across the street where the building with the antennas on the SW corner sits gets built out, .....along with maybe one or two other towers or developments on some of those southern SFH lots - then you could have a legit justification for a skytrain stop grtting built there from a ridership point of view.

But as it stands I think the bigger roadblock might be technical/structural.

They need more of the skytrain line to be as horizontal and level as possible to locate a station at, than seems to be available on that stretch currently - especially with the need to accomodate the much longer Mark V's now.

That would mean having to completely reconstruct major sections of the guidway to make them horizontal and hoping you have enough length on either side to have an acceptable slope for the trains to be able to climb/descend to get to the station and be level.

I'm sure the study they did probably revealed all these issues, and while I won't say it's completely not do-able - the bigger question of how much it will cost you to actually be able to do it, is likely what kills the proposal.

And there's the added consideration that even if they somehow made the numbers work and decided to go ahead and do it, it would mean single-tracking on that section of the line for the better part of probably a few, if not several years as each side gets rebuilt to accomodate the station and the required slopes.

Which would be a major burden to have on the system in general - just a coiuple of stops away from the second-most busiest skytrain line station in the entire network.
I don't think either Translink or the city would ever be comfortable eating that level of disruption for that long.

[Spr0ckets]

On a different note, I just realized that when the phase 1 of this project gets completed (The 2 rental towers), despite the fact that they are the shortest towers in this development - they'll actually be the tallest towers (or at least the highest, thanks to the elevation of the site) in the area for quite a while until the strata towers get built.

And that's ironically, thanks to the Vancouver side limiting towers over the boundary to no being taller than the Boot - which itself is going to be laughably dwarfed in its own lot when this whole development gets built out

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

...- then you could have a legit justification for a skytrain stop grtting built there from a ridership point of view.

But as it stands I think the bigger roadblock might be technical/structural.

They need more of the skytrain line to be as horizontal and level as possible to locate a station at, than seems to be available on that stretch currently - especially with the need to accomodate the much longer Mark V's now.

That would mean having to completely reconstruct major sections of the guidway to make them horizontal and hoping you have enough length on either side to have an acceptable slope for the trains to be able to climb/descend to get to the station and be level.

I'm sure the study they did probably revealed all these issues, and while I won't say it's completely not do-able - the bigger question of how much it will cost you to actually be able to do it, is likely what kills the proposal.

And there's the added consideration that even if they somehow made the numbers work and decided to go ahead and do it, it would mean single-tracking on that section of the line for the better part of probably a few, if not several years as each side gets rebuilt to accomodate the station and the required slopes.

Which would be a major burden to have on the system in general - just a coiuple of stops away from the second-most busiest skytrain line station in the entire network.
I don't think either Translink or the city would ever be comfortable eating that level of disruption for that long.

The guideway was designed for a station east of Boundary.

See post here quoting a response from TransLink:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4867430&postcount=40

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The guideway was designed for a station east of Boundary.

See post here quoting a response from TransLink:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4867430&postcount=40

Oh, that's good to know.

(Although I have to wonder if it took into account the length that would be required for the longer Mark V trains)

I'm still not convinced they would be willing to bear the level of disruption to the line that such a project would entail, and for the length of time that such a disruption would be necessary.

Also doubtful is whether they'd proceed without significant financial contribution by the developers - in this case obviously Anthem and Crestpoint. And given the current state of things (market-wise and economic-health-wise), I doubt anyone will be wanting to add that extra cost to a project that's already going to be a tough sell, as is.